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MN

Minnesota 2025 1st Special Session

Working Group on Omnibus Taxes Bill - 05/21/25

Minnesota Senate Floor Meeting

Transcript Highlights:
  • <00:15:28.160> And<00:15:28.320> finally, those those course debts.
  • And finally, those those course debts.
  • <00:28:48.880> I the Agriculture Society debt limit.
  • I the Agriculture Society debt limit.
  • which has to do with the um uh debt which has to do with the um uh debt limit<00:43:35.200> increase
Keywords: 1187, senate, all
NH

New Hampshire 2025 Regular Session

House Municipal and County Government (03/03/2025)

Municipal and County Government

Transcript Highlights:
  • Number one, it's not considered long-term debt.
  • not long-term debt is part of RSA 33:7e.
  • Generally, your debt you carry with you if you do a 20-year bond; you need to carry it.
  • Generally, your debt you carry with you if you do a 20-year bond; you need to carry it.
  • that these savings will offset your debt that these savings will offset your debt obligation<02:
Keywords: 928, house, all
Summary: The Municipal and County Government Committee held public hearings on House Bill 471 and House Bill 373. HB 471 would create a temporary commission to study growth, traffic, planning, and land use issues in a group of southern New Hampshire towns, with possible recommendations on regional planning commission boundaries or coordination. Representative Perez said the bill was requested by Londonderry residents and local officials, and Eric Power of Brookline testified in support, saying the towns share corridor and development issues that cross regional planning commission lines. Several members questioned whether existing law already allows towns to form regional planning commissions under RSA 364:6, whether the bill should be broader, and whether the town list should include additional communities. The hearing closed with testimony counts reported as two in support and three opposed on remote sign-in, plus one opposed and one in support on the blue sheet. HB 373, sponsored by Representative Diane Powers, would revise RSA 41:11-a on town property leases. Powers said current law is too restrictive because leases over five years require repeated town votes, which she argued is impractical for long-term arrangements. She cited examples from Hampton and Brookline, including long-term road and property leases, and said she had found multiple similar cases. The bill would keep select board authority for leases under one year, allow a legislative body to authorize a specific longer lease by a three-fifths ballot vote, and preserve the existing five-year blanket leasing authority with a three-fifths vote, while keeping existing leases valid if authority is later rescinded. Eric Power testified in support, describing recurring lease renewals in Brookline and saying longer terms are needed for projects such as housing, cell towers, and solar arrays. Members asked about the change from a simple town vote to a three-fifths threshold and whether the bill duplicates existing mechanisms; Powers said the higher threshold was intended because the leases involve long-term commitments. No votes were taken during the hearing portion described.
CO

Colorado 2026 Regular Session

Colorado House 2026 Legislative Day 087 Part 2 Apr 11th, 2026

Colorado House Floor Meeting

Transcript Highlights:
  • The consumer pays a fortune and the packer makes all the money.
  • of Colorado suffer under the inflationary principles of a government that continues to increase its debt
  • of Colorado suffer under the inflationary principles of a government that continues to increase its debt
MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

House/Senate Press Conference 4/8/25

Transcript Highlights:
  • And so they're just trying to make up for the debt that they already have.
  • And so they're just trying to make up for the debt that they already have.
  • for the debt that they already<00:21:05.200> have.
  • <00:21:09.600> So dollars in debt on EMS services. So dollars in debt on EMS services.
  • Do I pay off debt strategic decisions.
Keywords: 919, house, all
Summary: The meeting focused on the financial and workforce crisis facing Minnesota emergency medical services, especially ground ambulance providers in rural areas. Michael Johnson of the Minnesota Ambulance Association said EMS serves more than 600,000 Minnesotans a year and argued that reimbursement rates do not cover the cost of readiness, staffing, and 24/7 response. He and others called for ongoing EMS sustainability funding of about $50 million, higher Medicaid reimbursement, and continued support for EMT/paramedic scholarships, first responder training, and high school EMS programs. Senator Grant Hoschild and Representative Jeff Backer echoed the urgency, describing EMS as a moral imperative and emphasizing that rural communities cannot wait for ambulances when lives are at risk. Backer, who also volunteers as an EMT, described staffing shortages, reliance on volunteers, and a recent cardiac arrest response to illustrate the importance of local EMS coverage. Becca Hitch of PUM Area EMS said rural services are paid only when patients are transported, not for responding or treating on scene, and that one-time aid helped but did not solve underlying deficits. Bradley Peterson of the Coalition of Greater Minnesota Cities said local governments that hold ambulance licenses are being forced to absorb unrecovered costs through property taxes, and that state support is needed to prevent service failures and rising local burdens. In response to questions, speakers said a 2023 statewide study found about $120 million in need, with roughly half tied to operational deficits and half to volunteer support; last year’s aid included about $24 million for rural services and some improvements in volunteer call pay and equipment needs. They also discussed a proposed 10% Medicaid increase, possible special tax district ideas, and the need to target any new funding toward rural services most at risk.
US

US Federal 2025-2026 Regular Session

US House Floor Proceedings (Thursday, February 6, 2025)

US Federal House Floor Meeting

Transcript Highlights:
  • I yield myself as much time as I may consume. Mr.
  • myself such time as I may consume myself such time as I may consume gentleman's<02:42:29.640>
  • myself such time as I may consume myself such time as I may consume gentleman<03:16:39.680> is
  • I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  • Dexter, would like to consume.
CA
Transcript Highlights:
  • it's my understanding that the DWR was sued and lost in court over the department's efforts to issue debt
  • So this... ...over the department's efforts to issue debt to pay for tunnel-related work.
  • And so if you do are successful and the Legislature gives you that opportunity, then how much debt will
  • ...do important things like climate, how are we just giving an agency the ability to do unlimited debt
  • are doing, asking for a department, a public agency to be able to have this ability to run up more debt
Summary: The Assembly Budget Subcommittee hearing focused on the governor’s May Revision, especially the proposed extension of the cap-and-trade program to 2045 as “cap-and-invest,” the related greenhouse gas reduction fund (GGRF) spending framework, and several trailer bill proposals. Department of Finance staff outlined budget solutions including a $1.5 billion annual General Fund-to-GGRF shift for Cal Fire that would grow to $1.9 billion by 2029-30, continued support for high-speed rail, climate bond implementation, and various environmental and water-related statutory changes. The administration also described proposals affecting the Delta Conveyance Project, water quality planning, groundwater bulletin timing, Exide cleanup funding, and other agency-specific items, though the chair repeatedly asked staff to keep the presentation high-level and save details for the next hearing. Members from both parties raised strong concerns about the cap-and-invest proposal, arguing that it could reduce or displace funding for transit, affordable housing, active transportation, wildfire prevention, zero-emission vehicles, and other previously committed programs. Several members questioned whether the administration was effectively shifting essential ongoing services like Cal Fire onto a temporary carbon market fund, how the General Fund backstop would work if auction revenues fall short, and whether the proposal would leave enough money for continuous appropriations and future awards. Members also criticized the inclusion of cap-and-invest reauthorization in the budget process and asked for clearer information on the impact to high-speed rail, transit, and other GGRF priorities. The Delta Conveyance Project and related trailer bill language drew significant opposition from members and public commenters, who argued the proposal would fast-track the project, weaken CEQA-related review, and authorize revenue bond financing without sufficient legislative oversight. Public testimony also included support for maintaining or expanding funding for transit, affordable housing, AB 617 community air protection, offshore wind infrastructure, and ignition interlock programs, while environmental and community groups opposed cuts to wildfire prevention, housing, and school climate-related programs. No votes were taken; the hearing was informational, and the chair said the committee would continue the discussion and receive more detailed responses at the follow-up hearing on Tuesday.
MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

House Capital Investment Committee 4/30/25

Capital Investment

Transcript Highlights:
  • So we carry the debt service for 20 years.
  • However, if we have to maintain a debt service that we are likely not going to be able to remain open
  • bonded 3.4 million um through debt bonded 3.4 million um through debt levies<01:01:51.359> and
  • We are still paying off the former debt for the last fire hall that was constructed.
  • the former debt uh the the current debt the former debt uh the the current debt for<01:09:15.199
NH

New Hampshire 2026 Regular Session

House Committee on Housing (01/20/2026)

Housing

Transcript Highlights:
  • So, to your knowledge, someone who is either undocumented or has been convicted but paid their debt to
  • So to your knowledge, someone who is either undocumented or has been convicted but paid their debt to
  • They pay their debt to society. They've turned over a new leaf.
  • They pay their debt<02:06:13.440> to<02:06:13.599> society.
  • They've turned over a debt to society. They've turned over a new<02:06:15.280> leaf.
Keywords: 928, house, all
Summary: The Housing Committee opened with a public hearing on HB 196, which would repeal the Housing Champion program. Representative Matt Drew, the prime sponsor, argued the program is an unnecessary and poorly targeted subsidy, saying it rewards municipalities after projects are completed and may not be limited to new housing production. He questioned the transparency of the program, cited difficulty finding required annual reports, and noted a fiscal note suggesting the state could recover up to $3 million if obligations are terminated. Committee members and witnesses debated whether the program’s criteria amount to political favoritism or a standard grant process; supporters said the rubric is specific and that municipalities are evaluated against objective requirements. Representative Priest, Nick Taylor of Housing Action New Hampshire, and Karen Benfield of Stay Work Play New Hampshire all opposed repeal, saying the program encourages local zoning and regulatory changes, helps smaller communities participate, and supports housing supply and young people’s ability to stay in the state. The hearing on HB 196 was then closed. The committee then opened a hearing on HB 1405, a bill establishing an affordable housing guarantee program within the Housing Finance Authority. Prime sponsor Representative Chris Muns said the bill would reduce lender risk by guaranteeing up to 80% of principal on qualifying loans for affordable housing, with a cap of $30 million per lender per year and $300 million outstanding at any time. He described the measure as a low-cost public-private partnership backed by the full faith and credit of the state, and said it was identical to a prior Senate bill that had received unanimous bipartisan committee support before dying later in the process. He framed the bill as one part of a broader housing package aimed at financing, infrastructure, workforce, zoning reform, and other housing-related issues. No votes were taken during the portion of the meeting provided. The only formal actions were opening and closing the public hearing on HB 196 and opening the public hearing on HB 1405, with testimony continuing on HB 1405 at the end of the transcript.
TX

Texas 89th Regular

Senate Session Jun 1st, 2025

Texas Senate Floor Meeting

TX

Texas 89th Regular

89th Legislative Session May 22nd, 2025

Texas House Floor Meeting

Transcript Highlights:
  • By Perry ruling to the regulation of products derived from hemp, including consumable hemp products and
  • SB 916 by Zaffirini, relating to consumer protections against certain medical and health care billing
  • Members, this bill strengthens consumer protections and prohibits surprise billing by EMS providers.
  • SB 3 by PERI, relating to the regulation of consumable hemp products and the hemp-derived cannabinoids
  • An all-out ban of a consumer product done hastily.
KY
Transcript Highlights:
  • You've heard a whole lot about the $120,000 debt that students are carrying.
  • You've heard a whole lot about the $120,000 debt that students are carrying.
  • You've heard a whole lot about the $120,000 debt that students are carrying.
  • We also reduced the amount of debt they carried by 35%.
  • They graduate with lower debt, and they're on to a higher-paying job.
Keywords: 958, all
Summary: Aaron Thompson, president of the Council on Postsecondary Education, and Travis Pal briefed the committee on Kentucky higher education performance, affordability, workforce alignment, and budget needs. Thompson said the state has made progress toward its 60x30 attainment goal, reporting 56.2% of adults with a credential of value and a 6.4% one-year increase in credentials. He highlighted gains in completion, enrollment recovery after COVID, lower student borrowing and debt, and faster degree completion, saying Kentucky is now back to an average of 4.1 years for four-year degrees. He also emphasized that postsecondary education has a strong return on investment for both students and the state. A major theme was student success and access. Thompson described efforts to reduce barriers through test-optional admissions, the elimination of zero-credit developmental education, expanded wraparound supports, and Bridge programming for students not fully prepared for college. He also promoted Futurity, a student-facing information website, and said CPE wants modest ongoing funding to maintain it. He argued that higher education must work in a P-20 system with K-12, and that the state should better communicate the value of certificates, trade programs, and other credentials, especially for adult learners and men, who he said are underrepresented in college-going. The presentation also focused on performance funding, capital needs, and workforce initiatives. Thompson and Pal said performance funding has pushed institutions toward more need-based aid and lower costs for low-income students, but they want more base funding, more performance funding dollars, and relief from about $38 million in mandated tuition waivers. They also said asset preservation and deferred maintenance remain major needs, estimating roughly $7 billion in campus need overall. On workforce, they cited healthcare pipeline work supported by state funding and private partners, and said HB 200 continues that effort into aviation, aerospace, and defense. No votes or formal committee actions were taken during the presentation, which ended with members indicating interest in further discussion.
FL

Florida 2026 Regular Session

Appropriations Committee on Higher Education Mar 11th, 2025

Appropriations Committee on Higher Education

Transcript Highlights:
  • We hold tuition and fees down, so students graduate without debt.
  • We hold tuition and fees down, so students graduate without debt.
  • A number of auxiliary accounts are used to finance debt, for example, for parking structures, parking
  • Debt, for example, for parking structures, parking garages, things like that.
  • is generated in those areas may have an excess, but if that account is used to pledge against the debt
Summary: The committee held an informational hearing on higher education funding, focusing on how Florida’s university system should be financed and whether a new funding model is needed. University system financial officers and Chancellor Ray Rodriguez discussed major cost drivers, including wages and benefits, utilities, maintenance, financial aid, research, and the effects of geography, institutional mission, and student mix. UF highlighted the cost of research and graduate programs; UCF and FAU pointed to growth, location, and cost of living; FAMU emphasized recruiting top-tier talent while relying on other revenue sources; and UNF noted the challenges of growth and long-term planning. Members also discussed the role of internal controls and audits in addressing excessive spending and questioned whether out-of-state tuition should be adjusted to help offset costs. On revenue sources beyond state appropriations and tuition, the panel described auxiliaries, restricted funds, capital projects, and component units such as foundations and health systems. Several universities noted that some revenues are restricted to specific purposes and cannot be used for general operations. FAMU explained that a large share of its capital project funding reflected active campus construction, while UF said its component-unit revenue is largely tied to UF Health. The Chancellor emphasized that the system’s low tuition and strong state support are central to Florida’s national standing, but also noted that some auxiliary revenues are pledged to debt and must be managed carefully. When discussing the current funding process, witnesses praised Florida’s performance-based funding model for aligning incentives with student success, transparency, and accountability. They also raised concerns about non-recurring appropriations, rising employee benefit costs, unfunded mandates, deferred maintenance, and the difficulty of multi-year planning. Suggestions for improvement included more recurring funding, better coverage of mandated costs, greater flexibility in fee-setting, and possible weighting for mission, geography, and institutional type. The Chancellor said the Board of Governors is considering a “version 3.0” of performance-based funding that would benchmark institutions against peers and Carnegie classifications, but any changes would require legislative action. On out-of-state tuition, most universities said they would prefer local board flexibility, while the Chancellor cautioned that increasing out-of-state enrollment or fees could affect future state support and should be balanced carefully.
CA

California 2025-2026 Regular Session

Assembly Public Safety Committee Mar 25th, 2025

Transcript Highlights:
  • penalties have historically done little to reduce availability and use among current and potential consumers
  • who is a graduate student, a PhD candidate at UC Irvine, who can’t get housing, who has paid their debt
  • Ed Little, on behalf of Californians for Safety and Justice and Debt-Free Justice California, in strong
  • issues of supply and demand, and obviously the cost of food has gone up, which gets passed on to the consumer
Summary: The committee heard several public safety and criminal justice bills. AB 837 by Assemblymember Davies would add ketamine transportation to existing drug trafficking law; supporters, including district attorneys and peace officer groups, said it would address a growing and dangerous drug trend, while opponents argued increased penalties do not reduce drug supply and can worsen health harms. The bill was approved on a due-pass-as-amended vote and sent to Appropriations. AB 352 by Assemblymember Pacheco would make threats against judges and court commissioners an aggravating factor in sentencing; judicial and law enforcement groups supported it as a response to rising threats, while ACLU and criminal justice advocates said existing law already covers threats and the bill is unnecessary. It also passed to Appropriations. The committee then took up AB 938 by Assemblymember Bonta, which expands vacatur and affirmative-defense relief for survivors of human trafficking, intimate partner violence, and sexual violence, including for some violent offenses. Survivors and advocates testified that the bill would allow people coerced into crimes to tell their full stories and seek relief, while district attorneys and sheriffs warned it could sweep too broadly and affect public safety. The chair and several members strongly supported the measure, and it passed as amended to Appropriations. AB 475 by Assemblymember Wilson would make prison work assignments voluntary and is tied to a broader effort to remove involuntary servitude language from the state constitution; supporters framed it as a rehabilitation and dignity issue, while one member objected to the premise and cited the defeat of a related ballot measure. The bill was voted out to Appropriations but left on call pending additional votes. Assemblymember Lowenthal presented AB 704, which would allow people convicted of low-level offenses before age 26 to petition to seal and destroy records after a waiting period. Supporters said the bill addresses the limits of expungement in the digital age and recognizes young adult brain development; prosecutors and police groups raised Brady/disclosure concerns and objected to treating 18- to 25-year-olds like children. The committee debated those issues at length before sending the bill to Appropriations. Lowenthal also presented AB 812, which would expand resentencing opportunities for incarcerated firefighters who serve on conservation fire crews; supporters emphasized rehabilitation, wildfire response, and reduced recidivism, and the hearing continued with support testimony and the start of opposition testimony as the transcript ended.
MA

Massachusetts 2025-2026 Regular Session

Formal House Session 100 Jun 21st, 2026 at 11:00 am

Massachusetts House Floor Meeting

Transcript Highlights:
  • But unfortunately, they just graduated from college with a bachelor's degree and $200,000 in debt.
  • just got a credit card, spent some money on the credit card, just bought a new car with $1,000 in debt
  • The average cost of attending a four-year public college is $27,000, and student loan debt now exceeds
  • Credit card debt in the United States has now surpassed $1.3 trillion.
  • Speaker, we live in a world where too many young people begin adulthood already buried in debt.
Keywords: 995, all
Summary: The House took up several procedural orders early in the session, including extending the reporting deadline for the Housing Committee on H.4655 and suspending Joint Rule 12 for a petition seeking to rescind prior Article 5 constitutional convention applications. It then advanced three Ways and Means bills on education-related topics: personal financial literacy education (H.4670), expanded access to the state seal of biliteracy (H.4671), and teacher preparation and student literacy (H.4672), each moving through amendment adoption and third reading or engrossment procedures. A major portion of the meeting focused on H.4670, which would require personal financial literacy instruction in middle and high school and establish a financial literacy trust fund for curriculum and teacher training. Members spoke in support, emphasizing budgeting, credit, student loans, and long-term financial planning, and the bill passed to be engrossed by a 154-0 roll call. H.4671, which broadens access to the seal of biliteracy for students in public and private schools, also drew support and passed to be engrossed 155-0. The most extensive debate centered on H.4672, a literacy bill requiring evidence-based reading instruction, DESE-approved curricula or approved local alternatives, screening and progress monitoring, professional development, and related implementation measures. Members described concerns about declining reading scores and argued for a shift away from three-cueing toward phonics-based, science-of-reading approaches. Several amendments were considered: a proposal to change intervention language from “significantly” to “at risk of falling behind” failed, while amendments adding funding language, stakeholder collaboration, and other implementation details were adopted. One amendment clarifying that pictures may be used as a supplement in literacy curricula was also adopted, and the bill ultimately passed to be engrossed 155-0. The House also observed moments of silence for former Judge Leslie Harris, former Representative Mark Carron, and former Representative Dennis Rosa, and adjourned to meet the next day at 11 a.m.
TX

Texas 89th Regular

S/C on Defense & Veterans' Affairs Apr 7th, 2025

S/C on Defense & Veterans' Affairs

Transcript Highlights:
  • That's how they pay down the debt to construct the projects.
  • The debt, is it a private... they were given authorization to issue the debt by the state.
  • OK, so the state issues the debt under bond? Well, no.
  • The amount of revenue collected to be able to pay on that debt over time, by my...
  • One who issues the debt? Well, some of these will, yeah.
NH

New Hampshire 2025 Regular Session

House Session (03/06/2025)

New Hampshire House Floor Meeting

Transcript Highlights:
  • We must help families pay that bill without saddling the students with excessive debt under this program
  • <01:07:07.480> under<01:07:07.799> this<01:07:08.039> program excessive debt
  • under this program excessive debt under this program students<01:07:09.160> could<01:07:09.319
  • does not debt it does not cancel debt does not debt it does not cancel debt the<05:13:41.600>
  • I went through all 50 states the debt I went through all 50 states and<05:14:31.878> I<05:14:
Keywords: 1189, house, all
CA
Transcript Highlights:
  • And so if you are successful and the legislature gives you that opportunity, then how much debt will
  • And heard clearly from the governor when we were working on the last bonds, concerned about the debt
  • And so if we don't have debt service to do important things like climate, how are we just giving an agency
  • the ability to do unlimited debt service as it relates to this Delta conveyance?
  • A department, a public agency, to be able to have this ability to run up more debt to have an unlimited
Keywords: 988, house, all
MN

Minnesota 2025 1st Special Session

House Public Safety Finance and Policy Committee 4/2/25

Public Safety Finance and Policy

Transcript Highlights:
  • But if you can't, maybe your family will go into debt.
  • But if you can't, maybe your family will go into debt.
  • But if you can't, maybe your family will go into debt.
  • But if you can't, maybe your family will go into debt.
  • But if you can't, maybe your family will go into debt.
Keywords: 1183, house
MA

Massachusetts 2025-2026 Regular Session

Joint Committee on Labor and Workforce Development Jun 21st, 2026 at 11:00 am

Joint Committee on Labor and Workforce Development

Transcript Highlights:
  • Rather than incurring thousands of dollars in debt to get a college degree, building-trades union apprentices
  • I went from routine prenatal care, which is time-consuming in and of itself, to a barrage of tests, ultrasounds
Keywords: 995, all
Summary: The Joint Committee on Labor and Workforce Development heard testimony on several workforce-related bills, with most of the hearing focused on ESOL and apprenticeship legislation, followed by testimony on a four-day workweek pilot and paid prenatal leave. On ESOL, witnesses including the Boston Foundation, Skillworks, MassINC, MIRA, JVS Boston, Eastern Bank, immigrant advocates, employers, and legislators supported H.2080/S.1326, arguing that Massachusetts has a large backlog of limited-English-proficiency residents waiting for classes, that ESOL is essential to economic mobility and immigrant integration, and that the state needs a coordinated, statewide strategy with more vocational and workplace-focused English instruction. Testifiers cited long waitlists, fragmented delivery across agencies, labor shortages, and examples of workplace English programs helping immigrants gain jobs, advance careers, and support businesses. Committee members asked questions about how vocational ESOL differs from standard classes, and witnesses explained that it focuses on job-specific language and workplace scenarios. The committee also heard strong support for H.2085/S.1303, which would require more use of registered apprentices on public construction projects over $1 million. Labor leaders from the Massachusetts AFL-CIO and Massachusetts Building Trades, along with electricians and apprentices, said the bill would help apprentices complete training by ensuring enough job-site hours, expand access to good union careers, and strengthen the construction workforce for housing, infrastructure, and clean energy work. Several witnesses defended existing apprenticeship ratios and electrical licensing standards, warning against deregulation and emphasizing safety. Committee members asked about project thresholds and apprenticeship ratios, and witnesses said the bill’s phased apprentice-hour requirement was intended to cover most public projects under current cost conditions. The committee then heard testimony on S.1330, a four-day workweek pilot program. Senator Dillon Fernandez and Representative Shirley Arriaga described the proposal as a response to burnout, affordability pressures, and changing workplace norms, arguing that a pilot would let Massachusetts study whether shorter workweeks improve productivity, retention, and worker well-being. Witnesses said the model could help families balance caregiving and commuting while maintaining or improving output. Finally, the committee took testimony on S.1361, establishing paid prenatal leave. Parents, health advocates, March of Dimes, and others said paid leave would help pregnant workers attend critical prenatal appointments, reduce missed care, and improve maternal and infant health outcomes. Several speakers shared personal stories about high-risk pregnancies, pregnancy loss, and the financial strain of taking unpaid time off. No votes were taken during the hearing; the committee primarily received testimony and asked a limited number of questions.
AZ

Arizona 2026 Regular Session

03/26/2026 - Senate Judiciary and Elections

Judiciary and Elections

Transcript Highlights:
  • And I'm frankly, I like this bill a lot because we use this term, you've paid your debt to society.
  • This is actually a Lemon law, not a consumer lemon law. This is a Don Lemon law.