Jordan Redman — Jordan Redman is repeatedly referenced as the absent chairman, with the speaker noting they are present in his absence and describing themselves as a good friend of Jordan while substituting for him.
Jordan Redman — Asked whether DOPL was discussing consolidating the board into another board because it is trending downward.
Jordan Redman — The chair recognized the motion and placed the docket before the committee.
Jordan Redman — As Chair, he invited Mr. Touchstone to continue.
Jordan Redman — Joked that promising to be almost done is risky with this committee.
Jordan Redman — Jordan Redman, acting as chair, manages the committee discussion by referencing the rule issue, transitioning from committee discussion to public testimony, cutting off an overlong witness, asking another witness to wrap up, and then steering committee questions and clarifying the testimony about the rule’s application.
Michelle Bird — Introduces herself as a program manager at DOPL and executive officer for the Contractor Registration Board.
Michelle Bird — Answers that the fund balance at the end of the fiscal year was 126,952.
Richard Cheatum — The chair recognizes Representative Cheatum for a question.
Richard Cheatum — The chair recognizes Representative Cheatum for a question.
Richard Cheatum — Asks about the fund balance.
Richard Cheatum — Not present in this section; the question is instead directed to Representative Birch, likely a transcription error for a committee member name.
Richard Cheatum — Representative Birch is addressed in the discussion about redundancy and where the rule should reside.
Brooke Green — 'Representative Birch' appears to be a transcription error; likely a member being addressed for a motion, but uncertain.
Jessica Sposia — Introduced to present the next rules docket.
Jessica Spoya / Sposia — Introduces herself and presents the Liquefied Petroleum Gas Safety board rule docket.
Kyle Harris — The chair recognizes Representative Kyle Harris, who then asks how the board ended up with a negative 8% cash balance and whether the fees are annual or if spending is simply too high.
Kyle Harris — Representative Kyle Harris asked follow-up questions to clarify the status of Section 325.3 on whole-house mechanical ventilation, specifically whether it was being removed or relocated and whether the requirement would still appear elsewhere in the code.
Kyle Harris — Representative Harris questioned the rulemaking approach and the breadth of the proposed code changes, arguing that industry professionals were not included and asking why the committee did not simply add blower-door language instead of rewriting the broader package. He then shifted to specific language in Section L, asking whether it would require whole-house ventilation or whole-house fans for dwelling units, noting that the wording seemed to imply a requirement that Idaho does not currently enforce. Harris expressed concern that the language could be interpreted as enforceable even if it has not been enforced in practice, and he followed up by asking what would happen if the fire alarm/fire sprinkler section were deleted from the rule.
Jessica Spoya — Explains that expenditures related to the Chinden campus move, a new licensing system, and merger into DOPL contributed to the negative balance.
Mrs. Spoya — Explained that compounding factors and DOPL-related changes have caused the board's balance to decline, and said there have been preliminary conversations about merging the liquefied petroleum gas board with HVAC and plumbing into a mechanical board.
Mrs. Spoya — Was thanked after the motion carried on the docket she presented.
Ms. Spoya — Answered that the dealer-in-training fee was left unchanged so fees would remain low and not create a greater barrier to entry.
Mrs. Boya — Said the board went through rulemaking over the past year and a half, held two public meetings, and received no public comments, though industry supported the proposal.
Brent Crane — Representative Brent Crane said he had met with department officials and then moved to hold the rules docket subject to call of the chair, referring to docket 24-2801-2501.
Brent Crane — Representative Birch appears to be a transcription error; the chair corrects the page reference while the witness continues.
Brent Crane — Said he has serious concerns after reading the docket and began questioning the proposal.
Brent Crane — Representative Brent Crane is briefly referenced, then directly engages in a discussion about the building code update process. He questions why industry members, including himself, were not included in the Code Collaborative, and then asks whether fire alarm and fire sprinkler provisions should be moved from DOPL to the State Fire Marshal’s office to avoid overlapping authority between agencies.
John Price — Was called to present Rules Docket 24-2801-2801 for the Barber and Cosmetology Services Licensing Board.
Representative Graham — Argued that holding the docket would allow the parties and department to resolve concerns without a 'big food fight' in committee.
Mr. Price — Was asked to wait while the committee voted on the motion to hold the docket.
Justin Touchstone — Justin Touchstone was called to present Rules Docket 24-3930-2502, the Rules of the Building Safety Code, and then introduced himself for the record as the Trades Program Director for the Division of Occupational and Professional Licenses, the state building official, and the executive officer for the Idaho Building Code Board as he began his presentation.
Kent Solberg — Identified as the registered engineer on the board and available for technical questions.
John Kotner — Identified as the registered contractor and home builder on the board and available for technical questions.
John Kotner — John Kotner, a local builder and governor-appointed representative on the building code board, was introduced as someone who could answer technical questions. He then testified that the code language likely contains a misprint: the intent is to seal the boot, not the register, to the subfloor. He explained that this practical construction requirement is meant to prevent air from the crawl space from being drawn into the house and to replace reliance on blower door testing with inspectable construction checks. He concluded by noting the issue may relate more to commercial code language and urged the committee to move forward with the work completed so far.
Mr. Touchstone — Mr. Touchstone was interrupted and then continued explaining proposed code changes. He clarified that one section is being removed because the matter is deferred to the mechanical code, and then outlined key IECC changes, including deleting commercial lighting controls and renewable energy requirements and reverting a residential table to the 2018 code.
Mr. Touchstone — Mr. Touchstone was called to the podium to answer questions about the rule language. He explained that the language in question was already present in the 2018 building code amendments and that the apparent changes were only due to renumbering in the residential code, not any substantive change in wording. He further clarified that the code restructuring changed the section number to 325.3 while keeping the same language, and when asked about a specific line, said he had no concern with deleting that particular line.
Joe Palmer — Joe Palmer questioned how HVAC registers and boots are supposed to be sealed to the subfloor, noting that the code language seemed difficult to apply to finished floors and asking if he was missing something. His concern was then acknowledged, and he followed up by expressing discomfort with code provisions that may be impossible to comply with, comparing the issue to past firewall inspection problems.
Joe Palmer — Joe Palmer asked a series of related questions about the HVAC/code language and inspection process. He first clarified how blower-door sampling applies to every fifth home, then asked how a register is sealed to a subfloor, and finally expressed concern that the code text says the register itself must be sealed, questioning whether that wording is literal or a misprint and how inspectors would interpret it.
Joe Palmer — Referenced as having pointed out wording issues in the draft.
Faye Thompson — Was called on to ask a question.
Faye Thompson — Asked what material should be used to seal recessed light fixtures.
Faye Thompson — Moved to reject docket number 24-3930-250.
Faye Thompson — Moves to reject docket number 243930-2502 and explains the committee's concerns.
Josh Wheeler — Addressed by Representative Crane in the course of questioning about fire alarm and sprinkler requirements.
Josh Wheeler — Addressed by Mr. Touchstone while explaining that the section works with the fire code official.
Josh Wheeler — Representative Crane is asked whether he has follow-up.
Josh Wheeler — The Vice Chairman is referenced in the point of order.
Josh Wheeler — The Vice Chairman asks Representative Thompson to restate the motion and reason for rejection.
Josh Wheeler — Confirmed that the question was about deleting only item 9.