Cottie Petrie-Norris — Her earlier point is cited as part of the discussion about reacting to a crisis and needing proactive analysis and data.
Cottie Petrie-Norris — Referenced as sharing concerns about demand-reduction projections.
Professor Emily Grubert — Professor Emily Grubert is introduced as the first panelist from the University of Notre Dame, then introduces herself as an associate professor at Notre Dame and a consultant to the CEC on transition issues. She concludes her opening remarks by thanking the committee and inviting questions.
Professor Grubert — The chair says questions will be opened for Professor Grubert and the other panelists.
AB32 — Cited as the starting point for California's fuel-use reduction requirements.
AB32 — AB 32 is discussed as California’s foundational climate law, which established the state’s first climate targets for 2020. It is then cited as the authority under which the low-carbon fuel standard was created and as the broader statutory framework for related AB 32 measures.
AB32 — Referenced as the climate policy the union supported from the beginning.
SB100 — Referenced as the basis for interim clean electricity targets.
SB100 — Cited as one of the statutory goals being implemented, requiring 100 percent retail sales of electricity.
Director Myelder — Referenced as having explained at a prior hearing that the gasoline surcharge is unrelated to California's environmental requirements.
Professor Gruber — Professor Gruber is cited as support for the argument that fossil fuel industry shutdowns and refinery departures quickly affect local communities, including related liability concerns as facilities leave.
Jennifer Luckezi — Introduced herself as the Director of the Department of Conservation and explained that the department hosts CalGEM.
SB1137 — Referenced as establishing the 3,200-foot health protection zone.
SB1137 — The discussion repeatedly emphasizes SB 1137 as a bill that should be codified, bolstered, protected, and implemented. Speakers highlight its neighborhood drilling protections, including fence-line and engineered controls at extraction sites, and note that it could help track VOCs at the neighborhood level and improve monitoring.
SB1137 — SB 1137 is discussed as the legal basis Kern County relied on after the health impact study was deemed insufficient, with the discussion continuing into whether SB 1137 itself could be challenged.
Mayor Young — Mayor Young is introduced and begins testimony on behalf of Benicia, explaining that he is the mayor of a city of about 27,000 people in southern Solano County and describing the community’s relationship to Valero, the refinery closure issue, and related concerns about gas prices.
Mayor Young of Benicia — Mayor Young of Benicia argued that if refined gasoline is imported and stored locally, Benicia could become a terminal because of its deep-water port and existing tanks, creating a lose-lose outcome with no jobs or tax benefit, ongoing emissions, and lost redevelopment opportunities. He supported upgrading and electrifying the port to reduce diesel emissions, but said the city should be compensated if it is turned into a gas terminal. He also emphasized that key decisions are being made without Benicia at the table, and concluded by stressing the need to balance environmental protection with the city’s economic viability and budget needs, while noting that many residents want the refinery to close sooner for environmental reasons.
Rebecca Bauer-Kahan — The speaker responds to Chair Randolph by referring to the earlier chart and explaining that the uncertainty discussed relates to Randolph’s point about planning for different possible futures.
Ash Kalra — The discussion continues through a series of references to Assembly Member Ash Kalra and Vice Chair Gunda as the speaker addresses committee members’ questions. The exchange centers on the transition away from combustion engines, maintenance concerns, supply stability, and rulemaking, with the speaker responding to the Assembly Members as part of one continuous conversation.
David Alvarez — Referenced as having raised concerns about the proposal.
David Alvarez — The chair announced the next questioner would be Assembly Member Garcia.
Jacqui Irwin — Was recognized to speak next and thanked the participants.
Tom Lackey — The speaker references Vice Chair Gunda as having been part of the discussion over the last eight months and longer.
Tom Lackey — Assembly Member Lackey thanks the chair and continues a discussion about LCFS and related regulatory issues, noting that Cal JEM and CARB have a more direct impact on the public than the legislature and referencing prior concerns about LCFS costs.
Ms. Randolph — Assembly Member Lackey asks Ms. Randolph about LCFS costs per gallon, and Ms. Randolph responds that the cost fluctuates and is currently around 14 cents per gallon.
Ms. Randolph — Asked to explain how sustainable aviation fuels provide additional capacity for production of carbop.
Ms. Lucchasey — Assembly Member Lackey says his next question will go to Ms. Lucchasey.
Chris Rogers — Is thanked by the chair and then begins his remarks.
Brian Jones — Senator Brian Jones is referenced in connection with prior comments about the CEQA exemption.
Brian Jones — Identified as the chair speaking to the panelists and apologizing for community testimony being last.
Juan Carrillo — Assembly Member Juan Carrillo is referenced in the course of prior comments, with one mention appearing to be a transcription variant of his name and the other directly naming him. Both mentions concern the same ongoing discussion and should be treated as a single reference to Carrillo.
Professor Rupert — Professor Rupert confirms he is present and then responds to the committee’s question by explaining that there are few strong real-world examples of the transition being discussed because it has not been done often. He notes that public management of assets is more common internationally than in the U.S., where private ownership is more typical, and says he has focused much of his work on advance-notice foreclosures. He then points to Illinois’s SIGA as an interesting current U.S. example and contrasts it with California’s statewide targets versus asset-level deadlines, before the exchange closes with thanks.
Heath Flora — Senator Heath Flora, referred to as the vice chair, is mentioned as part of a continuous discussion in which the committee is hearing from him and asking him to address concerns about volatility and possible refinery-related options.
Leticia Castillo — Likely the intended reference behind the transcription 'Assembly Member Ransom' is uncertain; however, the transcript clearly indicates a new member turn and thanks the chair.
Gregg Hart — Asks follow-up questions about the tradeoffs and implementation of the proposal.
Gregg Hart — The speaker is addressing Assembly Member Hart.
Gregg Hart — Raises concerns about environmental tradeoffs, facility closures, and reliance on foreign supply.
Gregg Hart — Continues asking whether the proposal reduces import exposure and what environmental tradeoffs exist.
Gregg Hart — The response is directed to Assembly Member Hart.
Gregg Hart — The speaker references Vice Chair Gunda in discussing the transition and fuel carbon intensity.
Gregg Hart — The chair or speaker addresses Assembly Member Hart by name at the end of the exchange.
Gregg Hart — Assembly Member Hart is addressed regarding state monitoring and transparency into crude oil pipeline volumes.
Gregg Hart — Assembly Member Hart is referenced again as the person being asked how independent evaluation would be assured.
Gregg Hart — Assembly Member Hart is thanked and acknowledged as raising the concern about lack of detailed data.
Gregg Hart — Assembly Member Hart asks Dr. Martin about pre-2004 cars, incentives, and emissions regulation changes.
Gregg Hart — Referenced as disliking the speaker's call to reexamine offshore production.
Gregg Hart — Identified as the author of AB 1448.
John Harabedian — Assembly Member John Harabedian questions why California demand figures include exports to Nevada and Arizona, arguing that the numbers should reflect California’s own supply-demand situation. The discussion continues into a response addressing the data points and the economic efficiency of imports versus in-state production.
John Harabedian — Sean Walentine referenced 'Mr. Harabedian's suggestion' while urging an economic fix.
Bill Essayli — The speaker addresses Assembly Member Bill Essayli (misheard in the transcript as 'Assembly Member Ellis') in a brief repeated acknowledgment, with no substantive discussion beyond the direct address.