Dale Patten — Senator Patton argued that homeowners with escrowed mortgages already receive annual breakdowns and may pay less attention to their property tax statements because they do not directly write a check. He extended that point by noting that escrowed taxpayers may be less aware of the details, while non-escrowed taxpayers and larger taxpayers tend to pay closer attention.
Dale Patten — Senator Patten asks whether property tax statement format is set by the state tax commissioner.
Denaal Presky — Identified herself as being with the North Dakota Association of Counties and said she handed out two documents before the meeting started.
Denaal Presky — Denaal Presky of the North Dakota Association of Counties testifies about county capacity to include a colored pie chart on tax statements, explaining that most counties already have the ability to do so, though some smaller counties may need to purchase equipment or software to comply.
Linda Spihovic — Identified as the speaker's partner and someone who can help answer questions.
Danielle — Addressed as someone who may know how taxpayers are receiving information and reacting.
Ty Dressler — Representative Dressler is referenced during a continuing discussion about tax payment timing and the 5% discount. He is first addressed in a question about when taxes are paid and how the discount works, then asked to help the committee recall what problems might arise if the discount were eliminated. Later, he is referenced again as the discussion continues about the discount’s impact on property owners.
Linda Swahovic — Linda Swahovic of the North Dakota Association of Counties is brought in to clarify a budgeting/software issue. She explains that, according to the programmers, the software does not build in a discount up front; instead, the discount is only calculated once a payment is received.
Linda Swahovic — Says she was not planning to ask the programmers to join the meeting, but would check whether the programming can be reverted.
Linda Swahovic — Linda Swahovic speaks for the record and begins addressing the tax statement issue.
Danelle — Referenced as having previously described the idea of a ghost payment.
Danelle — Danelle is asked to come back up to clarify county capacity to produce the proposed pie chart statements.
David Hogue — The member is addressed multiple times during a continuous discussion, including a brief correction or clarification of the name, a request to see the language on paper while discussing reverting to the original statutory wording, and another follow-up address while the conversation continues about the shortfall and the amount needed.
Ms. Fai Hoek — Addressed by name; likely a transcription error for a witness or staff member name.
Randy Lemm — Senator Rummel is referenced in an ongoing discussion about the wording of the proposal and how to move forward. In the first mention, he is addressed directly in relation to the wording and the $80 difference. In the later mention, his option is described as possibly the best way to go, indicating continued discussion of the same procedural or substantive choice.
Randy Lemm — Addressed in agreement that property tax is complex and that legislators need better understanding.
Randy Lemm — Recorded as voting yes; likely the intended name for the seconding senator.
Jared Hendrix — A representative asks whether a recess could be used to contact programmers and verify the programming issue.
Megan — Megan is thanked in connection with the bill draft presentation.
Ms. Presky — Ms. Presky is asked about county printing arrangements, including how many counties might need assistance, which counties farm out their printing to other counties, and what the associated costs would be.
Jim Kasper — Thanked the chair and said it would be worthwhile to improve the statement and that tax caps will likely lead to more bonding measures going to voters.
David Richter — Representative Dressler followed the prior discussion on property tax statements and pie charts by agreeing that the property tax statement is the best source of information and supporting the idea of using a pie chart.
Dinell Presky — Testified for the North Dakota Association of Counties and said many counties already include supplemental information in property tax statements.
four programmers — The speaker reports that all four programmers said they can revert programming to a prior point in time and would welcome the change.
Richard Marcellais — The transcript appears to say 'Senator Rommel,' likely referring to Senator Richard Marcellais? Unclear; preserved as spoken in quality notes.
Adam — Explained that the draft was a starting point and invited questions.
Adam — Referenced as having previously discussed the appropriation estimate.
Denal Presky — Spoke on behalf of the North Dakota Association of Counties and said the group needed time to digest the draft.
Kyle Davison — The transcript contains two near-identical references to Kyle Davison, with the speaker apparently referring to him as 'Senator Rommel' and then 'Mr. Rommel.' The mentions appear to be part of the same brief exchange and likely reflect a transcription uncertainty rather than separate discussion points.
Craig Headland — Addressed as chair during the exchange.
Craig Headland — Craig Headland called the committee back to order, clarified the prior motion and second with references to Representative Doctor and Senator Rommel, then put the motion to adjourn the subcommittee to a vote. After the motion carried, he thanked members for their work and noted they would meet again at the full committee at the end of August.
Jim Grueneich — Likely intended by the transcription as 'Representative Dr.' during roll call, but uncertain.
Bernie Satrom — During the opening portion of the meeting, the transcript appears to reference Bernie Satrom in two uncertain ways: first as a possible roll-call name (“Dressler?”) and then again in the motion to approve the minutes (“Representative Dr.”). These are likely transcription artifacts within the same procedural segment rather than separate substantive discussions.
Dean Rummel — During roll call and related procedural business, Dean Rummel is called and responds "here"; the transcript also includes a likely mis-transcribed reference to the same member in the same sequence.
Dean Rummel — Supported the draft as a step toward educating people on property taxes and supported bringing it back on August 26.
Dale Patten — During roll call, Senator Dale Patten was called and responded 'Here,' with the attendance acknowledgment repeated in the adjacent transcript segment.
Craig Headland — Chairman Craig Headland was acknowledged during roll call and as presiding over the meeting, then spoke about the subcommittee’s charge to improve and clarify the property tax statement. He said the committee needed to make progress on that task and noted they may revisit adding more information to the statement, possibly through a pie chart.
Craig Headland — Addressed as the chair during the exchange.