David Cannon — Representative Cannon is referenced as being replaced by someone with a similar last name.
David Cannon — Representative Crane questioned whether the bill should take a more limited, local-control or "scalpel" approach instead of a broad statewide mandate. He argued that communities such as Eagle and Sun Valley are high-end areas that should be able to decide for themselves whether to allow duplexes and other density changes, rather than being required to accept them under the bill. Ms. Condi responded by defending the bill as a targeted approach and noting that Eagle is one of the most expensive communities in the state.
David Cannon — During the roll call vote, Representative Cannon was called and recorded as voting no.
Faye Thompson — Representative Thompson moves to approve the minutes from March 25th and March 27th as written.
Faye Thompson — Recorded as yes in the roll call vote.
Faye Thompson — Representative Thompson asks why chiropractors cannot simply obtain the required special/clinical nutrition certification if that is what is needed to purchase and administer the formulation. The sponsor responds that chiropractors must complete clinical nutrition training before they can reach that point and give the shots.
Jordan Redman — The chair is addressed in the motion to approve minutes.
Jordan Redman — Chairman Redman is addressed by the witness.
Jordan Redman — During the discussion of the bill language, the speaker addressed the chair and Representative Manwaring, specifically referencing page 2, line 3, and continued the same exchange with Mr. Chairman and Representative Harris.
Jordan Redman — During a continuous exchange, Senator Taves explains his point with a personal example about downsizing to one vehicle after marriage, while repeatedly addressing the chair as Mr. Chair/Mr. Chairman and acknowledging the discussion. The chair is referenced throughout the same segment as part of the ongoing question-and-answer and closing acknowledgment.
Jordan Redman — Addressed by the witness at the start of her testimony.
Jordan Redman — Addressed by Representative Crane as the chair.
Jordan Redman — Addressed by Representative Crane.
Jordan Redman — Addressed by Ms. Condi during her response.
Jordan Redman — Addressed in the follow-up exchange.
Jordan Redman — Addressed in the exchange.
Jordan Redman — Addressed by Ms. Condi during her response.
Jordan Redman — Addressed in the exchange.
Jordan Redman — Addressed in the closing and procedural remarks.
Jordan Redman — Addressed in the closing and procedural remarks.
Jordan Redman — Addressed in Senator Taves' closing remarks.
Jordan Redman — Managed the question period and motion on the bill.
Jordan Redman — Addressed during debate on the motion.
Jordan Redman — Voted yes in the roll call.
Jordan Redman — Addressed as Mr. Chairman.
Jordan Redman — Identified as the chairman and co-sponsor.
Jordan Redman — Addressed as Mr. Chairman.
Jordan Redman — The question was directed to the chair during committee discussion.
Jordan Redman — In the final moments of the meeting, the chair handles a motion, asks whether there is any further discussion, and then announces that the committee’s business is concluded. The reference to Jordan Redman appears as part of the adjournment-related phrase "call the chair," within the same closing exchange.
Lisa Cannon — Lisa Cannon introduces herself as the replacement attendee and makes a light remark about the committee.
Lisa Anderson — Lisa Anderson is introduced as the first witness and begins her testimony, identifying herself as the advocacy director for AARP Idaho and supporting SB 1359. Later in the discussion, she is referenced again in connection with the same scam trend she had previously described, reinforcing the ongoing testimony about the issue.
Lisa Anderson — Lisa Anderson, advocacy director for AARP Idaho, testified in support of SB 1353, arguing that it would expand housing opportunity and affordability for Idahoans by allowing duplexes and twin homes in areas traditionally limited to single-family housing, thereby increasing missing middle housing and helping older Idahoans age in place. She concluded her testimony by standing for questions and then responded to a question about land-use standards, saying broader lot-size flexibility could be a reasonable option if it helps expand missing middle housing.
Terry Durdon — Terry Durdon begins testimony as Ada County Chief Legal Advisor on behalf of Sheriff Clifford and Idaho State.
Ada County Chief Legal Advisor — The Ada County Chief Legal Advisor testified in support of SB 1359 on behalf of Sheriff Clifford and the Idaho State Sheriff's Association. He explained that the bill responds to a rise in scams targeting vulnerable Idahoans, especially elderly people, and described how victims often lose large sums through cryptocurrency machines, making the funds difficult to trace once converted. He gave examples of repeated losses of $40,000 to $50,000 and detailed cases including a 72-year-old Star resident targeted by criminals posing as Chase Bank employees, a victim induced to deposit $117,000 into a cryptocurrency machine, and another scam involving a Microsoft impersonation and a supposed $25,000 refund. He closed by asking the committee to support the bill and recommend it do pass.
Dan Estes — Dan Estes, Director of Consumer Protection for Attorney General Raul Labrador, testified about crypto ATM scams and the harm they cause, especially to seniors. He said losses are likely underreported, described cases where store employees and law enforcement had to intervene when seniors were being manipulated into depositing large sums, and explained that his division has used public service announcements and other outreach to warn the public. He emphasized that scammers rapidly change tactics and that older adults are especially vulnerable to authority-based fraud. In response to questions, he said he would welcome further discussion about recovery options and legislative help, but noted that current authority is limited. He then concluded his testimony and the chair closed public testimony.
Ms. Anderson — Referenced for having previously cited the $35 million statistic.
Steve Berch — Representative Steve Berch asked whether there is any opportunity, either through the attorney general’s office or with legislative help, to extend the ability to recover stolen money from scams, including crypto scam losses. The discussion focused on whether victims could have better restitution or recovery options through legal or legislative action.
Steve Berch — Moved to send Senate Bill 1353 as amended to the floor with a due pass recommendation.
Steve Berch — Representative Birch said he would support the motion, explaining that he wanted the full body to have the opportunity to weigh in and hear the full debate before a final decision was made. His support was later recorded in the roll call vote as a yes.
Representative Manwaring — Representative Manwaring was invited to offer closing remarks and then provided concluding comments clarifying the bill. He explained that the legislation requires companies to use tracing and analytic software for the machines involved, and he also addressed related implementation details such as manpower, administrative subpoena power, consumer notice provisions, transaction limits, and recovery provisions.
Kyle Harris — Asked where the definition of 'potentially vulnerable older adult' appears in the bill.
Kyle Harris — Questioned where the bill addresses protection for senior citizens and asked for the relevant section.
Kyle Harris — The speaker responded to Representative Harris's question about the definition of 'potentially vulnerable older adult.'
Kyle Harris — Raised Fourth Amendment concerns about blockchain analytics, transaction hashing, data retention, and law enforcement sharing.
Kyle Harris — Asked why the bill appeared to apply to cities of 5,000 rather than 10,000 residents.
Kyle Harris — Asked whether the Local Land Use Planning Act already permits this kind of development.
Kyle Harris — Representative Harris was recognized during debate on the housing bill and spoke in support of it, saying the issue had been debated extensively over the past year and that the bill was a good step toward addressing housing affordability. He argued that restrictive housing patterns can price families out of the communities they grew up in and said the bill would help bridge that gap so families can remain together in their hometowns. He then voted yes in the roll call.
Kyle Harris — Raises a letter of opposition from the Idaho Association of Chiropractic Physicians and says they were not contacted.
Kyle Harris — Representative Harris asked what a naturopathic doctor is currently allowed to do and then followed up to confirm that a pharmacist seeking dual licensure must still meet naturopathic doctor requirements. Senator Anthon responded to both questions, clarifying the current scope and the applicable requirements.
Cornel Rasor — Made the motion to send Senate Bill 1359 as amended to the floor with a due pass recommendation.