Brandon Shippy — Introduces himself and begins discussing the next item.
Brandon Shippy — Discusses the legislation and asks for introduction so it can return for a full hearing.
Brandon Shippy — Moves to send House Bill 795 to the floor with a due pass recommendation.
Brandon Shippy — During roll call, 'Representative Skog?' is called out twice, likely reflecting a transcription error or repeated attendance check for the same committee member.
Lori Hartog — Asks why the change is being made.
Lori Hartog — Asks whether the change would heighten the standard of review for objectionable material in a book.
Lori Hartog — Questions why the context language should be removed from the test.
Lori Hartog — Recorded as voting no on the motion.
Lori Hartog — Asked for clarification about whether Miller remains the law while the case is on appeal.
Lori Hartog — Asked the clarification question being answered by Zarian.
Lori Hartog — Asked whether the bill would conflict with Miller if the Supreme Court does not overturn it.
Lori Hartog — Asked whether the Miller test includes the context in which material is used.
Lori Hartog — During roll call, the transcript appears to mis-transcribe the same committee member name as 'Representative Holst Klaus' / 'Representative Holzkaw,' with the member being called again a few minutes later as 'Representative Holzkaw?' This is likely a repeated transcription error referring to Lori Hartog.
Lance McGrath — Signed up to testify on House Bill 795.
Lance McGrath — Lance McGrath is announced as the next witness to testify, first noted as being on deck and then reiterated as next up.
Dr. Lance McGrath — Dr. Lance McGrath, speaking as president of the Idaho Library Association, testifies that context is essential when evaluating potentially explicit materials. He explains that works or images that may seem explicit in isolation can have clear value when considered within a larger work, classroom setting, scholarly publication, or library collection, and argues that the bill should retain the phrase "in the context in which it is used" so courts continue to assess how material is actually presented and understood.
Dr. Lance McGrath — He identifies himself as president of the Idaho Library Association and states opposition to House Bill 819.
Michael Zarian — Michael Zarian, the Idaho Solicitor General, continued the opening explanation and answered committee questions about the bill. He stated that the bill does not conflict with Miller, appears to track Supreme Court language, and directs members to the bill’s definitions section, where terms like “sexually explicit” and “harmful to minors” are defined. He also referenced the codification location for the definition of “sexually explicit.”
Kathy Grismeier — Kathy Grismeier, Director of Policy and Government Affairs for the City of Boise, testifies in opposition to House Bill 819. She is identified as the first in-person witness, then explains the basis for her opposition when asked by committee members, referencing the relevant code section and page/subsection language. Her testimony concludes with a summary argument that the bill’s public-library standard would remove the Miller test and weaken First Amendment protections.
Vicki Fadness — Vicki Fadness is repeatedly announced as the next witness to testify, but there is uncertainty about whether she is in the building or can make it to the hearing in time.
Vicki Fadness — The committee repeatedly discusses Vicki Fadness’s attempt to join the hearing virtually: staff and the chair say they will keep trying to get her into the virtual queue, note that she may need to re-register as a virtual testifier, and later record for the record that she is opposed to House Bill 819 even though she has not yet signed back up.
Jim Guthrie — Chairman Crane is addressed during a continuous questioning exchange, with the discussion remaining on the same immediate topic across both mentions.
Jim Guthrie — Chair Guthrie manages the close of witness testimony in this portion of the hearing: he recognizes witnesses, asks whether there are questions, thanks them for their testimony, cuts off one witness when time expires, and directs another speaker back to the dais as the testimony segment concludes.
Jim Guthrie — The roll call begins, but the transcript names 'Chairman Crane' rather than the expected chair; this appears to be a transcription error in the roll call.
Jim Guthrie — Representative Bingham and Representative Church are called during the roll; the transcript is noisy and contains repeated or unclear names.
Jim Guthrie — The chair announces the result of the vote and returns to the original motion.
Jim Guthrie — The chair is called in the roll call and votes yes.
Jim Guthrie — The chair announces the motion passes and moves to the next item.
Jim Guthrie — The chair opens questions on RS 33650.
Bonnie Schuster — Bonnie Schuster is announced and called to testify, then appears in person and states that she lives in Boise, speaks only for herself, and opposes House Bill 819. After her testimony, the chair thanks her, asks for questions, and then closes her testimony before moving on to the next witness.
Mr. McGrath — The chair thanks him for his testimony and asks for questions.
Jenny Davidson — The chair announces Jenny Davidson as the next virtual testifier.
Heather Stout — Heather Stout is introduced as the next virtual witness, then provides testimony opposing HB 819 and arguing that public libraries are not government speech. After her remarks, the chair asks her to identify the relevant language on page 5 of the bill.
Jenny Emery Davidson — Jenny Emery Davidson, executive director of the community library in Ketchum and a resident of Hailey, Idaho, appears before the committee to state her opposition to House Bill 819. After her testimony, the chair asks for questions, receives none, and thanks her, closing her appearance before the committee.
Teresa Burkett — Teresa Burkett is announced as a later/next witness, then takes the floor, identifies herself as being from Post Falls, District 5, and states that she strongly opposes HB 819. She closes by urging the committee to reject the bill.
Michelle Lippert — Michelle Lippert is announced as a later witness, then appears to testify. She introduces herself, says she lives in District 5, and speaks on her own behalf and for the Library Alliance of North Idaho in opposition to House Bill 819. She argues that vague laws can cause libraries to self-censor and remove or avoid lawful books out of fear of litigation. Her testimony concludes with thanks from the committee.
Michael Hahn — Michael Hahn is introduced as the next testifier and then gives testimony in support of the bill. He states that he is representing himself as a citizen of Meridian, asks for the bill to move forward to the House floor, and continues by criticizing taxpayer-funded library materials and emphasizing that taxpayers fund librarians and library operations.
Treg Bernt — During the roll call, Representative Palmer is called and then responds 'Yes,' indicating a yes vote.
Ben Adams — During roll call, the transcript appears to misidentify the called names, with Representative Alfieri and Representative Dygert being mentioned in brief procedural calls that likely reflect transcription errors rather than substantive discussion of Ben Adams.
James Ruchti — Representative Scott asked a series of questions about proposed reporting rules for vendor-provided travel and related expenditures, specifically whether the vendor or the recipient would be responsible for reporting, whether the reporting would fall under the existing lobbying system or require a separate vendor/contractor section, and how the system would handle the large number of vendors compared with existing lobbyists. The response clarified that the vendor, not the state employee, would do the reporting, and indicated that the eventual system would likely be a mix of existing and new profiles.
Ben Toews — During the roll-call vote, several member names are unclear in the transcript, but the recorded responses indicate 'Yes' votes, including entries attributed to Representative Mickelson and Representative Alfieri.
Kelly Anthon — During the roll call, Kelly Anthon is called twice in what appears to be a transcription error in the name, first recorded as 'Representative Polanka? No.' and later as 'Representative Pohanka? Yes.' Both mentions are part of the same voting sequence.
Mark Harris — Representative Mark Sauter of District 1, Sandpoint, introduced RS 33495 and identified himself to the committee.
Mark Harris — Representative Mickelson briefly jokes with the witness about his name, then continues questioning the bill by asking where it removes definitions of sexually explicit material and requesting the specific code section.
Mark Harris — Referenced as the 'good representative from the Attorney General's office' in the discussion of standards for curriculum and libraries.
Mark Harris — Thanked after speaking against the bill; the transcript then transitions to Representative Mickelson's remarks.
Mark Harris — Referenced indirectly in the transition from Representative Haas's remarks.
Mark Harris — Representative Scott is called during the roll; the transcript appears to contain multiple transcription errors in member names.
Mark Harris — Representative Haas is speaking in opposition to the bill and referencing community testimony and libraries.
Mark Harris — Representative Scott asks a question about reporting requirements for vendors and employees.