Mia Gregerson — Introduced herself as representing the 33rd District.
Debra Lekanoff — Introduced herself as representing the 40th Legislative District.
Brianna Thomas — Introduced herself as representing the 34th District.
Brianna Thomas — Likely intended as Representative May, but the caption is incomplete and uncertain; not corrected to a specific member.
Natasha Hill — Introduced herself as representing the 3rd District in Spokane.
Natasha Hill — Greeted as Co-Chair Hill in Amy Manning's opening remarks.
Natasha Hill — Vice Chair Natasha Hill is introduced as the next questioner and then immediately takes the floor, thanking the chair and Amy for the presentation before beginning her questioning.
Natasha Hill — Greeted as Vice Chair at the start of the next witness's remarks.
Natasha Hill — Vice Chair Natasha Hill asks a follow-up question about whether the higher home values seen in LECs, compared with privately owned homes, have influenced lenders and banks or changed the lending market.
Natasha Hill — Natasha Hill asked where the committee could find information, research, or support for small landlords, housing providers, and first-time ADU owners. She suggested that these owners may need a program, training, or other practical support to help them operate successfully and treat rental housing more like a business. She also asked whether there were examples, research, or guidance from other places, and raised related issues such as licensing, legal, banking, and policy supports. The discussion stayed focused on how to help small-scale housing providers and ADU owners avoid pitfalls and succeed.
Dave Anderson, Department of Commerce — Introduced as the kickoff presenter on alternative home ownership models.
Dave Anderson — Identified himself as managing director of the growth management program at the Department of Commerce and introduced the topic of alternative home ownership models.
Dave Anderson — Identified himself as the Managing Director of the Growth Management Program and introduced his presentation on housing law changes.
Brian Schmid / Brian Schmidt — Introduced as a remote presenter from the Affordable Housing Pierce County Community Development Corporation; he states his name as Brian Schmidt.
Brian Schmidt — Identified himself as Social Services Supervisor for the affordable housing team at Pierce County Human Services and introduced a colleague, Champaign-Lewis.
Brian Schmidt — Closed his presentation and invited questions from the committee.
Brian — Thanked for the presentation and work on the public-property land banking model.
Amy Manning — Amy Manning, Executive Director of the Spokane Regional Land Bank, introduces herself and explains that she is there to discuss land banks and Spokane’s work. She describes how land banks help strategically redevelop problem properties, reduce blight, and support collaboration among local governments, community groups, and developers. She notes the costs of holding property, including taxes, maintenance, security, title clearing, and the way funding order can increase carrying costs, and argues that rapid land acquisition funding would help move land into affordable housing faster. She gives examples of coordination with counties on tax foreclosures, community land trusts for permanent affordability, EPA brownfield grant work, donated properties, and projects with Black Homeownership Spokane. She concludes by emphasizing that land banks do not displace people or compete with the market, but instead let government prioritize public good over profit and support permanent affordability.
Jeremie Dufault — Identified as the next member with a question.
HB1974 — House Bill 1974 is discussed as legislation introduced last year and then as a bill being refined to better support land banks. The discussion focuses on how it could allow land banks to hold property tax-free, transfer property more efficiently, and be shaped to advance affordable housing and related land bank goals.
Adison Richards — Greeted as Vice Chair at the start of the next witness's remarks.
Adison Richards — Identified as asking about public investment in Germany and England and whether those models required significant funding.
Adison Richards — Vice Chair Adison Richards asked whether Washington’s current housing-production trends are sufficient to reach the state’s needed annual housing production level, and the discussion continued with responses about housing production forecasts and the factors affecting whether the state can meet that target.
Victoria O'Beynion — Introduced herself and said she leads cooperative housing development.
Victoria Bian / Victoria O'Beynion — Identified herself as leading cooperative housing development for the Northwest Cooperative Development Center and introduced testimony on cooperative housing.
Victoria O'Beynion / Victoria Bian — Concludes testimony by emphasizing that LECs prioritize people over profits and preserve affordability.
Victoria — Victoria was thanked for her expertise, information, and support to the Legislature and communities, including a specific note of appreciation for moving the chairs.
Victoria — Referenced as having spoken about manufactured and mobile home communities.
Dave — Dave is welcomed back to provide an update and background on prior work and future opportunities. He thanks the committee for having him back and makes a light joke about getting a taller chair.
Dave — Asked to provide information on corporate ownership, vacancy, and eviction levels.
Janice Zahn — Representative Janice Zahn is introduced as the next questioner and then asks two questions, focusing on vacant homes data and whether bank partnerships could help people finance ADUs.
Janice Zahn — Referenced as part of the prior question about vacancy and corporate home ownership.
Katie Gould — Katie Gould, a senior researcher at Sightline, testified about mobile dwelling units (MDUs). She explained that MDUs include travel trailers, RVs, park model RVs, and tiny houses on wheels, and emphasized their lower cost, faster installation, and lighter footprint compared with traditional housing like ADUs. She described certification and inspection frameworks, including RVIA certification, Washington L&I stickers, and the nuances of when state oversight applies to off-site construction and custom-built units. She also noted that MDUs can preserve yards and that it is often difficult to tell from the outside whether a unit is an RV or a tiny house on wheels, citing broader housing data to illustrate the prevalence of these forms of mobile housing.
Katie Gould — Katie concludes her testimony by arguing that zoning restrictions can push people into homelessness and that MDUs are a timely housing solution.
Kathy McCall — Kathy McCall is introduced as part of the next panel and then called up to the table to join the witnesses.
Kathy McCall — Kathy McCall, AARP’s advocacy director in Washington State, delivers a continuous testimony thanking the chair, Representative Barkis, and the committee for their housing work. She provides context on AARP’s focus on adults 50 and older, especially the rapidly growing 65+ population, noting that by 2034 there will be more people over 65 than under 18. She then discusses housing cost burden among older adults, emphasizing those spending more than 35% of their income on housing and how this contributes to homelessness among seniors. McCall stresses the importance of aging in place or, at minimum, remaining in one’s community, and says that without viable housing options this is difficult. She also highlights AARP’s free resources for cities and counties on land use and housing planning, and closes by noting AARP’s support for ADU legislation while acknowledging that costs remain difficult and extreme.
Mary — Mary is discussed as an example of an older resident whose custom tiny house in West Seattle was designed to fit her mobility needs: she downsized there in 2016, paid about $100,000, rents the land for $500 a month including utilities, and can move around inside without her walker. She is then referenced again as a comparison point for another older person, highlighting how accessibility features like ramps may be easier to incorporate in some tiny-house designs than others.
Jacks — A woman who moved into a tiny house in 2015 after being priced out of a mobile home park; she bought a certified RV from an Oregon builder for $45,000 and lives off-grid on rural property she purchased.
An architect — The speaker said they talked to an architect who designed their own tiny house on wheels and went through the L&I process, which took about six months.
Chris and his family — Chris and his family were looking for a way to house Chris’s mother so she could move in and help with childcare while their second child was on the way. They first considered building an ADU in the backyard, but the quotes came in far above their budget at over $300,000. After being told that option was not feasible, a neighbor suggested having her live in a trailer in the back, so they ended up buying a traditional RV as a workaround.
Chris's mom — She is in her 70s and would benefit from accessibility features that are harder to add to the RV setup.
Dwight and his partner — Dwight, who works in an emergency room and lives in Battleground, received a Clark County notice to move within three weeks after a neighbor complaint.
Rebecca Hutchison — Rebecca Hutchison is introduced as working with the HomeShare program for South Sound, and the speaker invites her to give a brief overview of what she is doing.
Rebecca Hutchinson — Rebecca Hutchinson introduced herself as part of Senior Services for South Sound’s HomeShare program, briefly explained her work, invited attendees to contact her with questions using the phone number, extension, and email she provided, and received thanks for her concise overview of the program.
Strom Peterson — Called the meeting to order and introduced himself as representing the 21st District.
Strom Peterson — Strom Peterson is referenced in his role as chair while facilitating discussion and inviting additional questions, and he is later greeted directly as Chair Peterson in opening remarks.
Strom Peterson — Greeted as Chair at the start of the next witness's remarks.
Strom Peterson — During the question period, Strom Peterson repeatedly thanked the chair and acknowledged the presentation and follow-up, with no substantive change in topic.
Strom Peterson — During this stretch of the meeting, Strom Peterson is repeatedly addressed as Mr. Chair while guiding the exchange. The discussion remains on the same procedural thread, with several brief acknowledgments and questions directed to him, and it concludes as he thanks the speaker for the background and transitions the committee to the next panel.
Sam Low — Introduced himself as representing the 39th District.