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MN
Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session
House Public Safety Finance and Policy Committee 3/10/26
Public Safety Finance and Policy
Transcript Highlights:
- These abuses create a survival-mode mentality leading to short-term thinking and trauma bonding or dependency
- short-term thinking and trauma bonding short-term thinking and trauma bonding or<01:00:09.680><c> dependency
- </c> or dependency. or dependency.
- He said the bill is good because it is permissive and allows judges to consider different aspects depending
- </c><01:10:26.320><c> on</c><01:10:26.719><c> how</c> aspects depending on how aspects depending on how
Committee:
House Public Safety Finance and Policy
Keywords:
theft, vulnerable adults, public safety, penalties, Minnesota statutes, chemical irritants, law enforcement, transparency, building owners, tenant rights, notification, remediation, firearm restrictions, domestic violence, court orders, criminal convictions, firearms prohibition, gun surrender, order for protection, protective order
MN
Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session
House Workforce, Labor, and Economic Development Finance and Policy Committee 3/5/26
Workforce, Labor, and Economic Development Finance and Policy
Transcript Highlights:
- My industry depends on it, the legitimate ones.
- My<00:24:23.480><c> industry</c><00:24:24.000><c> depends</c><00:24:24.480><c> on</c><00:24:24.680><c
- > it,</c><00:24:24.960><c> the</c> My industry depends on it, the My industry depends on it, the legitimate
- And so, identifying the right test and how to use it depending on what the situation is, the idea that
- And so, identifying the right test and how to use it depending on what the situation is, the idea that
Summary:
The Workforce, Labor, and Economic Development Finance and Policy Committee met to discuss worker misclassification, beginning with approval of the March 4, 2026 minutes and a note that a late-posted bill would not be heard at this time. Chair Pinto opened the hearing by framing misclassification as timely and invited Lea Takapu of the Attorney General’s office to explain the issue. Takapu described misclassification as labeling workers as independent contractors when they are really employees, which can deprive workers of minimum wage, overtime, unemployment insurance, workers’ compensation, and other protections while also reducing tax revenue. She said the Attorney General’s office and the MEAP partnership have been working on the issue and cited estimates that Minnesota workers lose billions annually and the state loses hundreds of millions to over a billion dollars in revenue, while noting that legitimate independent contracting is not the target.
Members questioned how the committee could rely on estimates when the exact number of misclassified workers is unknown. Takapu responded that the figures were based on studies and complaint data, and that underground or undocumented work makes exact counts difficult. Chair Pinto noted the numbers were estimates and referenced a 2024 Legislative Auditor finding that Minnesota lacked an adequate, coordinated approach to proper worker classification, while saying progress had been made since then.
Several industry witnesses then testified in support of stronger enforcement. Kevin Pranis of LiUNA said misclassification remains rampant in parts of construction, especially drywall, stucco, thin stone, and broadband installation, and argued it is tax, unemployment insurance, and workers’ compensation fraud that harms law-abiding contractors and taxpayers. Matt Wollers of Braxton and Sons said his company loses bids to competitors that misclassify workers, creating a labor-cost advantage of 30% or more, and asked for meaningful enforcement rather than new legislation, including regular unannounced jobsite visits. Jesse Madison of Purple Tally Productions said misclassification is anti-competition and described examples from live events and entertainment, urging front-end checks on workers’ compensation, unemployment coverage, and W-2 versus 1099 status before work begins. The next testifier, Ben Ballou of the Minnesota Nurses Association, began his remarks as the transcript ended.
MN
Transcript Highlights:
- who pointed out, as I think Senator McQuay did, that the fixed costs of running schools are not dependent
- 01:26:01.520><c> not</c> costs of running schools uh are not costs of running schools uh are not dependent
- on the number of students in dependent on the number of students in that<01:26:03.600><c> school</c>
- Already, the cost increases this year caused at least 900 individuals and dependents to leave our district
- to leave our district health dependents to leave our district health insurance<01:36:56.080><c> plans
Committee:
Senate Education Finance
CO
Colorado 2026 Regular Session
Colorado Senate 2026 Legislative Day 048 Mar 3rd, 2026
Colorado Senate Floor Meeting
Transcript Highlights:
- that, yeah, the competitive shooters, some of them who may change barrels once every six months depending
- change barrels once every<02:12:59.599><c> six</c><02:12:59.920><c> months</c><02:13:00.320><c> depending
- </c><02:13:00.719><c> on</c><02:13:00.880><c> the</c> every six months depending on the every six months
- depending on the competitions<02:13:01.679><c> that</c><02:13:01.920><c> they're</c><02:13:02.079><c
- on how many rounds they fire depending on how many rounds they fire down<02:13:15.040><c> range.
MN
Transcript Highlights:
- When you consider Minnesota's conformity to the federal standard deduction, the existence of our dependent
- </c><01:01:16.960><c> exemptions</c> existence of our dependent exemptions existence of our dependent
- It depends on the industry. And, uh, just to your point, Representative Smith, no disrespect.
- </c><01:34:30.480><c> It</c><01:34:30.560><c> depends</c><01:34:31.000><c> on</c><01:34:31.120><c> the
- It depends on the being forced. It depends on the industry. industry. industry.
Committee:
House Taxes
Keywords:
taxation, pass-through entity, qualifying owner, partnership, S corporation, tax return, overtime compensation, tax deduction, income tax, federal regulations, tax reform, tip income, federal tax deduction, Minnesota Statutes, individual income, employer contributions, Trump accounts, federal law, gross income exclusion, 1183
WY
Wyoming 2026 Regular Session
Senate Corporations, Elections & Political Subdivisions Committee, February 25, 2026
Corporations, Elections & Political Subdivisions
Transcript Highlights:
- Accountability should not depend<01:02:52.400><c> on</c><01:02:52.559><c> the</c><01:02:52.720><c> form
- </c><01:02:52.960><c> of</c><01:02:53.119><c> government</c> depend on the form of government depend
- to get power to a certain place in a timely manner without enormous costs is very spotty, and it depends
- </c><01:47:06.800><c> Um</c><01:47:07.520><c> it's</c> depends on the company.
- Um it's depends on the company.
MN
Transcript Highlights:
- And I'm sure that every district or every community is going to address this differently depending on
- 15:46.399><c> differently</c> going to address this differently going to address this differently depending
- on the impact of of um the ICE depending on the impact of of um the ICE uh<00:15:52.079><c> brutality
- </c> feel safe at schools should not depend feel safe at schools should not depend on<01:27:07.199><c
- That right is not conditional, provisional, or dependent on citizenship. It is settled law.
Committee:
Senate Education Policy
MN
Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session
Committee on Jobs and Economic Development - 02/23/26
Jobs and Economic Development
Transcript Highlights:
- workers' comp, or Social Security Disability Insurance will lead to a partial offset or a denial depending
- lead to a partial offset or<00:07:22.880><c> a</c><00:07:23.120><c> denial</c><00:07:23.599><c> depending
- </c><00:07:23.840><c> on</c><00:07:24.000><c> the</c> or a denial depending on the or a denial depending
- Um, it would depend on the mix of applications that we get in the door.
- Um, and there's, you know, one journeyman for two apprentices or whatever the formula might be depending
Committee:
Senate Jobs and Economic Development
MN
Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session
House Public Safety Finance and Policy Committee 2/18/26
Public Safety Finance and Policy
Transcript Highlights:
- How the rest of this short session goes will depend a lot on the members here, and I just hope that we
- We have to, right, to session goes will depend a lot on the session goes will depend a lot on the members
- I mean, depending on how old somebody is, I don't know, this might be 40, 50 years.
- </c><01:28:52.400><c> I</c><01:28:52.560><c> mean,</c><01:28:52.719><c> depending</c><01:28:52.880><c
- I mean, depending on how decades, right?
Committee:
House Public Safety Finance and Policy
Keywords:
public safety officer, peace officer, correctional officer, law enforcement, police privacy, officer safety, doxxing, personal information, data privacy, government data practices, private data, internet posting, online disclosure, residential address, phone number, email address, family member protection, child safety, school information, public records
NH
Transcript Highlights:
- They can work whenever they want or depending on their health or their mental capacitation.
- their depending on their health or their mental<00:58:25.920><c> capacitation.
- But, but um it all depends.
- /c><01:05:11.359><c> we</c><01:05:11.520><c> could</c><01:05:11.760><c> get</c> depends.
- I mean, if we could get depends.
Committee:
Senate Judiciary
NM
Transcript Highlights:
- It's probably going to depend on the circumstances, but that is current federal law that already applies
- Madam President, Senator, it's going to depend on the facts of the case, but under current federal law
- I've had a couple call me, and being that I was a past county clerk for the record, you know, they depend
- President, it all depends on which sponsor, which topic you're talking about, but I think either one
- However, because of the need for news and how dependent it is, I mean, you know, Senator Cher and I were
Summary:
The Senate convened with a quorum, opened with prayer and the Pledge, and agreed by unanimous consent to allow cameras on the floor and gallery, excuse several senators, and move to announcements and miscellaneous business. The chamber then adopted a ceremonial resolution honoring Lieutenant Governor Howie Morales for his years of service as Senate president and lieutenant governor, followed by extensive remarks from senators and Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham praising his leadership, fairness, education advocacy, and personal kindness. Morales briefly responded, thanking members, the governor, and his family, and noting he would offer fuller remarks on his final day.
After messages from the House were read, the Senate adopted several committee reports. These included favorable action on Senate Memorial 31; House Judiciary Committee substitute for House Bill 70; House Bill 124, referred to Finance; Senate Joint Resolution 6, referred to Judiciary; Senate Joint Resolution 7; House Bills 103, 154, 165, and 285 as amended; and the Finance Committee’s amended report on House Appropriations and Finance Committee substitute for House Bills 2 and 3. The Judiciary Committee also reported Senate Bill 104 as duly enrolled and engrossed, and the body noted that SB 104 had been signed in open session.
During personal privilege, Majority Floor Leader Peter Wirth discussed a State Ethics Commission advisory opinion on whether legislators who are attorneys may vote on medical malpractice cap legislation, arguing the issue is governed by Senate rules rather than the Governmental Conduct Act. He said he would continue to disclose his interests and vote under Rule 7-5, and also rejected a newspaper suggestion that he had a conflict in sponsoring a judgeship bill for the First Judicial District Court. The Senate then moved into third reading, beginning with Senate Rules Committee substitute for Senate Bill 264, which Senator Duhigg explained as an election-security measure responding to concerns about federal interference, intimidation, and emergency election disruptions; Senator Nava then spoke in support as a co-sponsor.
KY
Kentucky 2025 Regular Session
Medicaid Oversight and Advisory Board (7-30-25) - Reupload
Transcript Highlights:
- Um, that may look different depending on the state grant that's available.
- Um but for most depends on the activity.
- It does depend on the activity, so I can provide more information about that. >> Thank you.
- It does depend on the activity, so I can provide more information about that. >> Thank you.
- Uh, the CHE center list was looking at hospitals that are highly Medicaid dependent.
Keywords:
00:00:22 - Call to Order and Roll Call
00:03:00 – Approval of June 25, 2025 Minutes
00:03:22 - Update on Federal Changes to the Medicaid Program
01:03:44 - State Directed Payments, Provider Taxes, and the Rural Health Transformation Fund: How Medicaid Changes Could Impact Kentucky
Hospitals
01:29:42 – Public Comments
01:45:25 – Announcements
01:46:19 - Adjournment, 958, all
Summary:
The Medicaid Oversight and Advisory Board met on July 30, 2025, approved the June 25 minutes, and received a presentation from Katherine Castanza of the National Conference of State Legislatures on Medicaid provisions in H.R. 1. The presentation outlined more than 20 Medicaid-related provisions, emphasizing that the largest federal savings come from work/community engagement requirements, changes to provider taxes, limits on state-directed payments, more frequent eligibility redeterminations for expansion populations, and related eligibility/enrollment changes. She said the fiscal effects are backloaded, with most reductions occurring in the later years of the 10-year window, and noted potential significant impacts on hospital payments and state financing. She also described new funding opportunities, including a $50 billion rural health transformation fund and a new home and community-based services waiver with associated grants.
A substantial portion of the discussion focused on Kentucky’s pending community engagement 1115 waiver and how it would interact with the new federal requirements. Board members asked whether the waiver had been approved, what the cabinet’s contingency plan would be if CMS does not approve it, and what the timeline is for compliance. Cabinet representatives said the waiver has not yet been approved by CMS, remains under public comment, and that the state will wait for CMS guidance before moving forward; if needed, the state would amend the waiver or submit a new one. They said the work requirement must be in place by January 1, 2027, with a possible extension to 2028.
Castanza also explained that expansion adults with incomes between 100% and 138% of the federal poverty level would face new cost-sharing requirements beginning October 1, 2028, and that eligibility redeterminations would move from annual to every six months starting January 1, 2027. She then walked through provider tax changes, including a moratorium on new provider taxes beginning October 1, 2026, and a phased reduction in the hold-harmless threshold for existing taxes beginning January 1, 2028, with exemptions for nursing facilities and ICF/IID providers. Board members questioned the timing and likely impact on Kentucky, and Castanza responded that the effect would depend on each tax’s current rate and would phase in over time.
MN
Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session
Special Session - Senate Floor Session - Part 3 - 06/09/25
Minnesota Senate Floor Meeting
Transcript Highlights:
- The stakes of the community benefits depend on the size of the data center, $2 million to $5 million.
- 56.079><c> benefits</c> The stakes of the community benefits The stakes of the community benefits depend
- 14:58.079><c> the</c><00:14:58.320><c> data</c><00:14:58.639><c> center</c><00:15:00.079><c> 2</c> depend
- on the size of the data center 2 depend on the size of the data center 2 million<00:15:00.720><c> to
- </c><02:00:08.639><c> on</c> plant which is absolutely dependent on plant which is absolutely dependent
NH
New Hampshire 2025 Regular Session
House Commerce and Consumer Affairs (05/20/2025)
Transcript Highlights:
- So depending on what they're doing now, yeah, there could be additional administrative burdens.
- So depending<00:59:32.240><c> on</c><00:59:32.400><c> what</c><00:59:32.640><c> they're</c><00:59:32.799
- ><c> doing</c><00:59:32.960><c> now,</c> depending on what they're doing now, depending on what they're
- akin to fully insured relationships, meaning that they have a set premium for the policy period depending
- SAU60 was the last one we had of those. depending on the number of contracts depending on the number
Summary:
The subcommittee took up the pooled risk management program bill and reviewed a new amendment drafted with input from the Insurance Department and Legislative Services. Department witnesses explained that the proposal would move oversight of pooled risk management programs from the Secretary of State’s office to the Insurance Department, add a licensure requirement, preserve the programs’ non-insurer status, and exempt them from third-party administrator licensure. They also described a series of solvency tools in the draft, including financial reporting, risk-based capital standards, minimum capitalization, investment limits, commissioner examination and enforcement authority, rulemaking authority, merger and affiliate-transaction review, confidentiality protections, and a separability clause.
A major theme of the discussion was that pooled risk management programs differ from commercial insurers because the risk remains with the member local governments rather than being backed by a state guarantee fund. Witnesses said the bill is designed to emphasize solvency over return of premium and to give the Insurance Department a regulatory “toolbox” to prevent insolvency, including a proposed $5 million excess or stop-loss coverage benchmark, optional accessible policies, and a requirement that boards vote on dividends or premium returns when capital exceeds 600% of risk-based capital. Members questioned how this approach differed from the original Secretary of State bill and whether assessments on towns would still be possible; the department responded that the new framework would allow more flexible oversight and alternatives to immediate court action.
The committee also discussed why the statute should continue to say the programs are not insurers, with the department explaining that this preserves their autonomy and avoids applying unrelated insurance laws and premium taxes. Members asked about the department’s workload and were told the department believed it could absorb the new duties without additional funding. No vote or final committee action was taken in the portion provided.
NH
Transcript Highlights:
- Um, we heard from the New Hampshire Women's Foundation, um, that their programming depends on that, helps
- Um, we heard from the New Hampshire Women's Foundation, um, that their programming depends on that, helps
- Um, we heard from the New Hampshire Women's Foundation, um, that their programming depends on that, helps
- Um, we heard from the New Hampshire Women's Foundation, um, that their programming depends on that, helps
- Um, we heard from the New Hampshire Women's Foundation, um, that their programming depends on that, helps
Committee:
Senate Education
TX
Transcript Highlights:
- Sometimes, depending on where the roadway is, it can be... can involve state and federal funding.
- Well, it would depend.
- Well, depends on where your gun is. Sorry, I'm in a car; it depends on where the car is.
- As long as the expired driver's license is paired with an active duty military ID or dependent military
- And would you agree that some appeals and post-conviction relief depend upon having access to that very
Bills:
HJR175 , HJR88 , HB21 , HB49 , HB216 , HB346 , HB573 , HB565 , HB954 , HB1953 , HB2686 , HB1441 , HB2734 , HB1650 , HB3161 , HB2876 , HB3185 , HB3388 , HB2761 , HB3233 , HB 1186 , HB1534 , HB5506 , HB5129 , HB3619 , HB778 , HB2867 , HB3221 , HB3672 , HB2434 , HB4903 , HB3687 , HB3675 , HB4609 , HB4582 , HB4921 , HB3866 , HB3901 , HB4534 , HB2446 , HB3984 , HB700 , HB4012 , HB4491 , HB4088 , HB229 , HB4234 , HB722 , HB4136 , HB4105 , HB4413 , HB170 , HB551 , HB2858 , HB3053 , HB3142 , HB3180 , HB3722 , HB2200 , HB1794 , HB1784 , HB1581 , HB2530 , HB4308 , HB1896 , HB2974 , HB3359 , HB4580 , HB2458 , HB2215 , HB3332 , HB2278 , HB3015 , HB3151 , HB1368 , HCR9 , HCR40 , HB5138 , SB17 , HB4944 , HB2284 , HB3421 , SB1569 , SB2420 , SB1968 , SB2351 , SB2544 , SB1490 , SB1349 , SB1568 , SB2776 , HB3531 , HB2149 , HB4327 , HB3158 , HB3717 , HB4520 , SB888 , SB552 , HB3138 , HB3704 , HB2921 , HB4853 , HB4506 , HB3892 , HJR161 , HJR175 , HJR88 , HB1937 , HB3334 , HB5444 , HB5137 , HB361 , HB321 , HB5447 , HB464 , HB678 , HB2294 , HB4172 , HB3225 , HB1769 , HB5394 , HB1837 , HB1787 , HB2271 , HB2440 , HB5134 , HB5149 , HB2151 , HB2073 , HB2186 , HB2025 , HB1936 , HB1777 , HB1663 , HB 1306 , HB 1290 , HB1527 , HB4802 , HB3462 , HB2963 , HB2462 , HB2560 , HB644 , HB2725 , HB2621 , HB2588 , HB1443 , HB1403 , HB3032 , HB1557 , HB1664 , HB2811 , HB2088 , HB2598 , HB3062 , HB3134 , HB3940 , HB4027 , HB4097 , HB4862 , HB4170 , HB4157 , HB4205 , HB4279 , HB4377 , HB4838 , HB5424 , HB5294 , HB4870 , HB4763 , HB5639 , HB4112 , HB2275 , HB1677 , HB5014 , HB3848 , HB3797 , HB3727 , HB3709 , HB3177 , HB3057 , HB4176 , HB4202 , HB2180 , HB3528 , HB3658 , HB21 , HB49 , HB216 , HB346 , HB573 , HB565 , HB954 , HB1953 , HB2686 , HB1441 , HB2734 , HB1650 , HB3161 , HB2876 , HB3185 , HB3388 , HB2761 , HB3233 , HB 1186 , HB1534 , HB5506 , HB5129 , HB3619 , HB778 , HB2867 , HB3221 , HB3672 , HB2434 , HB4903 , HB3687 , HB3675 , HB4609 , HB4582 , HB4921 , HB3866 , HB3901 , HB4534 , HB2446 , HB3984 , HB700 , HB4012 , HB4491 , HB4088 , HB229 , HB4234 , HB722 , HB4136 , HB4105 , HB4413 , HB170 , HB551 , HB2858 , HB3053 , HB3142 , HB3180 , HB3722 , HB2200 , HB1794 , HB1784 , HB1581 , HB2530 , HB4308 , HB1896 , HB2974 , HB3359 , HB4580 , HB2458 , HB2215 , HB3332 , HB2278 , HB3015 , HB3151 , HB1368 , HCR76 , HCR127 , HCR9 , HCR40
Keywords:
constitutional amendment, medium of exchange, currency rights, digital currency, financial autonomy, tax exemption, rainwater harvesting, graywater system, local government, ad valorem taxation, housing finance, multifamily residential, low income, audit requirements, affordable housing, development bonds, oil waste, gas waste, liability, treatment processes
MN
Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session
House Higher Education Finance and Policy Committee 4/3/25
Higher Education Finance and Policy
Transcript Highlights:
- For example, depending on what the nature of it is, with a hospital they might not actually have the
- Depending on what the nature of it is, with a hospital they might not actually have the ability to do
- that depending on how large the project is because they only have a limited bonding capacity.
- She said the first-year cost appears to be $11.7 million and $16 million ongoing, depending on birth
- Depending on what the regulations are surrounding the existing 529 option for folks in Minnesota, we
Committee:
House Higher Education Finance and Policy
MN
Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session
Gov. Tim Walz's tax bill, HF2437, heard in House Taxes Committee 4/2/25
Transcript Highlights:
- , if you will, and that number of $26 million stays fixed, so this levy kind of moves up or down depending
- , if you will, and that number of $26 million stays fixed, so this levy kind of moves up or down depending
- Okay, well, it depends upon your bracket, which changes over time, and it's an ongoing discussion, and
- Conservancy, a nonprofit organization working to conserve the lands and waters on which all life depends
- </c><00:54:10.680><c> on</c> land owners who are dependent on land owners who are dependent on payments
Summary:
The committee took up House File 2437, the governor’s proposed tax bill, and first adopted the A25-Z42 amendment to put the bill in the desired shape. Commissioner Paul Marquardt of the Department of Revenue then presented the bill as part of Governor Walz and Lieutenant Governor Flanagan’s budget, describing it as a response to budget pressures that would make the tax system more fair and stable while supporting economic development and jobs.
Marquardt walked through the bill’s major provisions. These included sustainable aviation fuel policy, repeal of K-12 education credit assignment, elimination of the political contribution refund, expansion of the research and development credit, short-line railroad infrastructure modernization, changes to the state airport fund levy, replacement of attachments and appearances with distribution systems, a narrow personal property tax exception for low-income housing tenants, reduced aquatic invasive species aid, and a 34% reduction in PILT payments. He then focused on the sales tax article, saying it would lower the statewide rate by 0.75% while expanding the base to selected professional services such as accounting, banking, brokerage, and legal services, with business-to-business transactions exempt. He said the proposal would be effective for sales and purchases after September 30, 2025, and estimated a first-year rate-cut impact of about $99 million versus $215 million from the service expansion, while arguing that most households would see a net tax cut. He also noted other changes such as landlord penalty adjustments, a 30% reduction in sustainable aviation fuel incentive payments, repeal of local government cannabis aid, and repeal of the tax filing modernization account.
Public testimony began with Kyle Playford of the Financial Planning Association of Minnesota, who strongly opposed the proposed sales tax on professional services, especially financial planning. He argued that financial planning is an essential service for retirement, investment, and long-term financial security, and said the tax would raise costs for consumers, reduce access for middle-class families, small business owners, and retirees, and put Minnesota firms at a competitive disadvantage. The chair then indicated that additional public testimony would continue before member questions.
MN
Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session
House Environment and Natural Resources Finance and Policy Committee 3/25/25
Environment and Natural Resources Finance and Policy
Transcript Highlights:
- Now, for those of you who don't know, Western art culture is heavily dependent on this form of paint.
- So, Western art culture depends on this. I had an artist from St.
- </c> Western art culture is heavily dependent Western art culture is heavily dependent on<01:15:45.120
- So, uh western art culture depends<01:16:06.320><c> on</c><01:16:06.480><c> this.
- I had a an artist from depends on this.
MN
Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session
House Fraud Prevention and State Agency Oversight Policy Committee 3/24/25
Fraud Prevention and State Agency Oversight Policy
Transcript Highlights:
- those lower-level tier cases that may not have been taken before, but we’ll still take both routes depending
- 00:15:58.880><c> take</c><00:15:59.040><c> both</c><00:15:59.360><c> routes</c><00:15:59.680><c> depending
- </c><00:16:00.000><c> on</c> still take both routes depending on still take both routes depending on
- We have either licensing or getting on the path to licensing, provisional licensure. depending on the
- service uh we want to depending on the service uh we want to be<01:22:33.440><c> sure</c><01:22:33.600