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• Yang has been an early pioneer for other Hmong community leaders who have advocated and helped has been
• Fixed-term installment contracts commonly include early termination fees.
• These are fees that the consumer must pay if they want to terminate their contract with the seller.
• AB 483 addresses this consumer confusion by mandating that sellers that specifically choose early termination
• In addition to this transparency, AB 483 caps the cost of the early termination fee on an installment

Summary: The Assembly met on March 6, 2025, after a quorum call, prayer, and Pledge of Allegiance. Members then made a series of guest introductions recognizing Vaisakhi celebrations, nonprofit leaders from San Joaquin County, immigrant and refugee advocate Liu Yang, students from Somerdale Elementary School, Trustee Sylvia Leong, and a Leadership Torrance delegation. The chamber also took up several procedural motions, including a successful motion to withdraw SB 100 from Budget Committee and send it to the second reading file, and unanimous consent to re-refer several Assembly bills to different committees. On the floor, members considered a number of bills and resolutions. AB 238 on wildfire relief, providing up to a year of mortgage forbearance for fire-impacted homeowners, passed with urgency. AB 373 on client-directed representation for non-minor dependents in foster care passed unanimously, as did AB 287 requiring accessible parking for curbside voting at vote centers. AB 628, requiring new residential leases to include a working refrigerator and stove, passed 49-8. ACR 15 designating April 15 as California Propane Day was adopted by voice vote after adding 55 co-authors. AB 483, requiring disclosure and limiting fees for early termination in fixed-term installment contracts, passed 43-11. AB 234, an urgency bill allowing the Assembly Speaker and Senate Pro Tem or their designees to sit on the Fair Plan governing committee, passed 60-0. The Assembly also heard several adjournment-in-memory tributes, including for Gustavo Camacho Lopez, retired firefighter William Brett Potter, and Rob Ashley. The day concluded with announcements of committee meetings and the next floor session schedule, followed by adjournment until April 10, 2025, at 9 a.m. A later vote change noted Assembly Member McKinnor changed her vote on AB 483 from aye to not voting.

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• The terminal preservation number, that orange piece, is expected cost increase for the Fauntleroy terminal
• of 16 terminals.
• There is also funding for the Clinton terminal and the Bremerton terminal.
• The terminal electrification procurement has recently selected the terminal provider, and the integrator
• , but in some cases one terminal may be electrified without a corresponding terminal.

Committee: House Transportation

Summary: The committee received a detailed staff presentation on Washington State Ferries’ capital program, service levels, fleet age, and long-term funding needs. Staff said the system is operating with 21 vessels, no Sidney, B.C. service, and limited spare capacity, which leaves service vulnerable to disruptions. They described aging vessels, deferred preservation work, dry dock constraints, terminal needs, and the state’s electrification plan, including three new hybrid-electric Olympic class vessels now funded, one Jumbo Mark II conversion, and several terminal electrification projects. Members asked about ridership trends, biodiesel supply, procurement risk, sequencing of terminal electrification with new vessels, and the possibility of restoring international service; staff said many of those questions would need follow-up with the department. The presentation emphasized that current funding covers near-term needs, but long-term ferry capital needs exceed available resources by roughly $250 million to $300 million per biennium, with additional future needs not yet funded. The committee then heard from WSDOT maintenance operations staff on the condition of the highway system. The presentation said maintenance is increasingly reactive because of underinvestment, rising material costs, and the addition of new assets without corresponding operating funds. Staff highlighted winter operations, facilities that are mostly in poor or critical condition, a large equipment fleet, growing guardrail damage, and increasing pavement and bridge preservation backlogs. Members asked about asbestos in facilities, the effect of deferred maintenance, and whether the agency had previously warned about these needs. Staff said the program is funded at only about half of its facility need and that more than 40% of roadways are due or overdue for preservation. A separate preservation presentation focused on highways and bridges. Staff said WSDOT is below the lowest life-cycle cost for preservation and that delaying work can make repairs three to five times more expensive later. They reported that about 40% of roadways need preservation now, bridge conditions are nearing the federal poor-bridge threshold, and the agency is prioritizing the highest-risk bridge and closure threats first. The presentation cited an estimated $8 billion 10-year preservation need to change the trajectory of the system. Members asked about prioritization, whether other states face similar issues, and whether a cost-benefit analysis of earlier repairs versus later costs had been done; staff said they would look into those questions. Finally, the committee heard about bridge strikes and financial recovery. WSDOT bridge staff described recent overheight vehicle strikes on Bullfrog Road over I-90 and SR 410 over White River, noting the safety risks, closures, and repair costs. They outlined countermeasures such as improved trip-planning tools, outreach, and a possible sensor/beacon pilot on SR 410. Financial recovery staff said the agency collects about $20 million per biennium from third-party damage claims, recovering roughly 78% to 80% of billed amounts, with insurance claims and collections used to recoup costs. Members asked about prevention feedback loops and where recovered money goes; staff said recoveries go to the motor vehicle fund and that there is not a formal routine mechanism for design or policy changes from individual claims.

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• </c> gave for involuntary termination? gave for involuntary termination?
• But remember um earlier termination.
• </c> considered a involuntary termination considered a involuntary termination even<00:26:32.400><c>
• </c> spent in the program before termination. spent in the program before termination.
• So this allows that early intervention.

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• </c> first episode of psychosis and early first episode of psychosis and early episode<00:47:37.920><
• </c> which focus on sustaining early which focus on sustaining early psychosis<00:48:32.720><c> programs
• And gold standard in early intervention.
• <01:15:31.840><c> for</c> terminated for terminated for non-payment,<01:15:34.480><c> what</c><01:15:
• </c> terminated for somebody. terminated for somebody.

Committee: House Human Services Finance and Policy

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• and voting centers. ...and remove mentions of voting centers from early ballot on-site tabulation statute
• That's asinine, and that's why the bill is the Completely Asinine Rule Termination Act. Thank you.
• The bill terminates the office on July 1, 2030, and repeals correlating statutes on January 1, 2031.
• This is very much like what we saw in the early 80s with some child actors, even all the way back to,
• and a qualified marketplace platform by adding that the contract may be terminated unilaterally by a

Summary: The meeting covered a large number of bills and resolutions across education, federalism, government, health, commerce, and judiciary-related topics. In education, members heard bills on moving the statewide testing window later, allowing paper-based testing in more cases, posting school administrator compensation data, expanding who may receive student directory information, reviewing duplicative ADE reporting requirements, requiring religious excusals, creating a school fitness recognition program, and a proposed ballot measure on sex-designated school sports and private spaces. In federalism, the committee discussed banning foreign nationals from funding ballot-measure committees and a proposal to eliminate voting centers and return to precinct-based voting. Other items included memorials urging the U.S. to withdraw from the United Nations and the IMF, and a government bill penalizing agencies that fail to submit financial reports on time. Health and human services bills focused on lactation care, a state certification program for lactation providers, prohibiting gender transition procedures for minors, requiring chief medical officers at state agencies to hold active licenses, clarifying air ambulance statutes, seeking a SNAP waiver to restrict non-eligible food purchases, and collecting hospital patient immigration-status data for reporting. Sponsors generally framed these as consumer protection, public health, or administrative cleanup measures, while some members raised concerns about cost, privacy, and possible legal conflicts. In commerce, the committee heard bills on digital goods disclosure, protections for child content creators, liability limits for river outfitters, landlord utility billing transparency, appraisal management company definitions, unemployment eligibility verification, and association-based health plans. Several measures were pulled from consent or flagged for amendments. The judiciary portion included bills creating a civil cause of action for violations of anti-DEI laws, expanding hate-crime-style penalties to include political affiliation and expression, adding reporting requirements for name changes by sex offenders, penalizing possession of falsified commercial driver’s licenses by unlawfully present individuals, adding penalties for mailing abortion-inducing drugs, allowing speed-limiting devices as an alternative to license suspension, extending inmate transition services, increasing penalties for sexual extortion involving older teens, requiring legislative approval to close state shooting ranges, and advancing an Article V convention resolution for congressional term limits. Several sponsors emphasized public safety, parental rights, election integrity, or government accountability, while some members raised constitutional or implementation concerns, particularly on liability, voting systems, and the term-limits resolution. Multiple bills were reported as being on consent calendars, with some pulled for amendments or further discussion.

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• Currently, an SSCC that decides to prematurely terminate a contract with DFPS may do so with only 60
• Similarly, DFPS may opt to terminate a contract with an SSCC with a third... a 30-day notice.
• So, by getting these cancers early, it is cutting down on the treatment costs.
• It is a chance for disputes to be resolved early and informally.
• I think maybe the city of Brenham started doing it in the 1960s or early 70s.

Bills: SB623 , SB1266 , SB1310 , SB1373 , SB1580 , SB1952 , SB2032 , SB2269 , SB2544 , SB2653 , SB2796

Committee: Senate Health & Human Services

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• by prohibiting these facilities from operating within 500 feet of a park, child care facility, or early
• It further adds Early Steps credentialed early intervention service providers to the list of professionals
• bill for the MMTC facilities from being located within 500 feet of a park, child care facility, or early
• I think this is an important bill to identify students very, very early, and it standardizes the best
• And one of the problems here is, you know, you need to terminate your policy, and failure to terminate

Bills: S0042 , S0196 , S0878 , S0902 , S0914 , S1092 , S1168 , S1340 , S1404 , S1414 , S1684 , S1686

Committee: Senate Appropriations Committee on Health and Human Services

Summary: The Appropriations Committee on Health and Human Services met to hear and vote on a series of health, human services, and education-related bills, along with a presentation of the committee’s proposed HHS budget. The budget was described as increasing by more than $2.1 billion over the current base, with major funding highlighted for Medicaid and KidCare, rural health, provider rate increases, child welfare, mental health and substance use, opioid treatment, Alzheimer’s initiatives, cancer research, ADAP, veterans’ services, and IT modernization. Public testimony on the budget focused heavily on AIDS Drug Assistance Program funding and concerns about Department of Health changes affecting access, premium assistance, notice, and continuity of care for people living with HIV/AIDS. Among the bills reported favorably were measures on podiatric medicine and tissue-based products (SB 1092), background screening and clearinghouse procedures (SB 1168), child protective investigations involving specific medical diagnoses and second opinions (SB 42), clinical laboratory personnel licensure standards (SB 878), uterine fibroid data tracking and research (SB 196), medical marijuana treatment center oversight and related health provisions (SB 902), dyslexia and dyscalculia screening and intervention in schools (SB 1340), memory care licensure for assisted living facilities (SB 1404), congenital CMV education materials (SB 1414), Parkinson’s disease registry and related public records exemption bills (SB 1684 and SB 1686), and occupational therapy dry needling licensure standards (SB 914). Several bills were amended before passage, including SB 1092, SB 42, SB 902, SB 1684, and SB 1404. Testimony generally came from professional associations, advocacy groups, and affected stakeholders, with support voiced for most measures. The committee adopted amendments on the floor, heard no opposition during debate on the bills described, and then voted to report each measure favorably. At the end of the meeting, senators requested to be recorded in the affirmative on selected bills, and the committee adjourned.

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• LPNs and and CNAs that it's appropriate for their level of responsibility so that we identify people early
• Physician for practicing medicine in any geographic area for any period after termination of his or her
• And so to have to leave that because they're terminated is problematic.
• These the general rule in these cases from the early 2, thousands, 2 years in 20 miles, is that barely
• And so in a position is terminated.

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• These will increase access to early detection and diagnosis.
• </c> close if they are not diagnosed early. close if they are not diagnosed early.
• Access to early and accurate diagnosis.
• This end piece here is called a terminal device, and we can swap out different terminal devices here.
• But what's... and we can swap out different terminal and we can swap out different terminal devices<04

Committee: House Commerce and Consumer Affairs

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• Do you have any trial dates or other obligations that would prevent us from meeting in early December
• I did my best to have that report ready before early voting began, but there was an overlap of early
• We're moving to agenda item 19: proposed treasurer terminations.
• Commissioners may terminate the filer's campaign treasurer appointment.
• Is there a motion to approve the terminations proposed by our staff and identified on the agenda?

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• childhood, and the early childhood content expert.
• </c><01:36:51.440><c> childhood</c> the administrator for early childhood the administrator for early
• </c> wouldn't see video Lottery terminals wouldn't see video Lottery terminals come<05:39:28.120><c>
• </c> utilize video Lottery terminals utilize video Lottery terminals otherwise<05:39:42.920><c> we</c

Summary: The committee first took up HB 713, which would require mile markers on Route 112, the Kancamagus Highway. The sponsor and DOT testimony described the road as a heavily traveled but isolated corridor with little or no cell or radio service, frequent accidents and breakdowns, and serious public-safety problems when emergency responders cannot quickly locate incidents. Members discussed where markers should be placed, how frequently they should appear, whether both sides of the road should be marked, and the potential cost; DOT said the project could be done with federal funds and might be combined with other work to reduce mobilization costs. The committee agreed the bill was straightforward and voted OTP 18-0, with discussion that a friendly amendment might be offered later to refine the language. The committee then heard HB 563, concerning calculation of adequate education grants. Testimony explained that the bill would add fiscal capacity disparity aid in FY 27 and increase the special education differentiated aid factor, while also reducing extraordinary needs grants so the overall fiscal impact would be net neutral. Members noted the changes were limited to the second year because of the budget process and school district ballot timing. Supporters argued the fiscal capacity aid would help property-poor towns and should be expanded, while others emphasized the bill’s budget-neutral structure. The committee voted to retain HB 563 for further consideration in the budget process. Finally, the committee opened HB 675, which would limit the authority of school districts to make certain appropriations. A Derry resident and former local official testified in favor, arguing that property taxes are too high, that school spending has outpaced town-side tax caps, and that local voters should have more control over school budgets. Committee members questioned whether the issue should instead be handled locally through existing processes or broader governance changes, and one member noted the state’s constitutional obligation to provide an adequate education. The discussion continued, but no final action on HB 675 was taken in the portion provided.

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• We're getting you in the minutes early and off. Mr.
• We're getting you in the minutes early and off. Mr.
• I did not really know Eugene very well, but he went to Vietnam at an early age.
• This bill dedicates the Schaumet Ferry Terminal after the late Michael C.
• This bill dedicates the Schaumet Ferry Terminal after the late Michael C.

Summary: The House Committee on Transportation, Highways and Public Works met on March 10 and considered a series of highway, bridge, and ferry naming bills, many honoring deceased public servants, veterans, and community leaders. The committee first heard House Bill 346, which redesignates a portion of U.S. Highway 171 as the Speaker Joe Salter Memorial Highway. Members and witnesses from the Secretary of State’s office offered extensive tributes to Salter’s career in education, legislative service, and state government. The bill was reported favorably without objection. The committee then took up House Bill 221, which names a proposed Mississippi River bridge crossing connecting LA 1 and LA 30 as the President Donald J. Trump Expressway. Rep. Eccles argued the naming would help draw attention and funding to a long-discussed bridge project and emphasized toll-free, growth-based financing. Some members questioned the political and practical logic, but the bill was reported favorably on a 12-2 vote, with Reps. Murray and Walters voting no. The committee also reported favorably several other memorial naming bills, including HB 356 for the Elward T. Brady Jr. Memorial Bridge, HB 149 for the Senior Police Officer Trevor Abney Memorial Highway, HB 148 for the Eugene Washington Memorial Highway, and HB 716 naming the Schaumet Ferry Terminal after Michael C. Ginnart Jr. Additional measures were amended and reported: HB 355, designating Highway 10 as the Veterans Park Highway, was amended to add “Memorial Highway” and then reported favorably; HB 657, naming portions of LA 182 for Burrick B.J. Lejeune Jr. and Judge Richard T. Dickey Hike Sr., was amended to remove “Memorial” from the designations and reported as amended; HB 675, naming U.S. 425 in Franklin Parish for Assistant Chief Bill Putt Linder, was similarly amended and reported; and HB 384, naming a portion of U.S. 11 as the Dan de Blanc American Hero Highway, was amended to add “Memorial” and reported with amendments. HB 354, renaming the Magnolia Bridge as the Caleb Easterling Memorial Bridge, drew emotional testimony from the victim’s parents about his death in a drunk-driving crash and was reported favorably. HB 358, naming a portion of LA 433 for Charles R. Bordelon Sr., was also reported favorably. At the end of the meeting, the committee voluntarily deferred HB 129, HB 130, HB 360, and HB 401 to a later agenda. The committee then adjourned.

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• </c> repeals the termination provision repeals the termination provision associated<00:21:34.400><c>
• I mean, you're going to burn real early.
• order</c><00:46:29.520><c> to</c> detour during early voting in order to detour during early voting in
• It's just during early voting route. It's just during early voting days. days. days.

Summary: The Senate convened with an invocation, journalized the prayer, and recognized Read Across America Day with a special resolution congratulating the Maryland State Education Association on the program’s 28th anniversary. Senators also welcomed several guests and student groups, including Eleanor Roosevelt High School students, Maryland Federation of Republican Women members for Red Scarf Day, medical shadows from Johns Hopkins, a student page prospect, and a group from Matthew Henson Elementary School. The chamber then took up multiple Finance Committee consent calendars and individual local alcohol-related bills, all of which were reported favorably, adopted without objection, and ordered printed for third reading. Measures included changes to alcohol license fee refunds for uniformed service members, Anne Arundel County license classifications and compensation for liquor board officials, a Baltimore City racetrack license extension, a Cecil County license quota change, and new or expanded licenses for golf courses, sports venues, and barber shop/beauty salon establishments. The Senate also advanced bills on social work licensing, a rural readiness economic development program, a Maryland-Ireland Trade Commission extension, peer-to-peer car sharing insurance rules, telematics-based auto insurance disclosures and appeals, and veteran status notation on public profiles. Several bills were amended before being advanced, generally with technical or clarifying changes and no recorded opposition. Senate Bill 18 would create a provisional social work license; Senate Bill 351 would regulate insurer use of vehicle telematics data; Senate Bill 395 would revise insurance and liability rules for peer-to-peer car sharing; and Senate Bill 197 would alter comprehensive plan elements in land use law. Senate Bill 439, protecting fire and rescue public safety employees from adverse action based on medical cannabis certification, also moved forward without amendment. One measure, Senate Bill 69, which would make permanent the nonprofit navigator position in the Department of Commerce, was discussed at length after a member raised concerns about oversight of nonprofit grant funding. On request, the bill was special ordered to the next day for further consideration. All other bills discussed in the transcript were advanced to third reading by unanimous or near-unanimous voice action, with no recorded roll-call votes.

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• But early, somewhere in the beginning of August, we will have a... ...we'll see where it goes.
• So not simply just terminating them on graduates alone.
• it or get them through or move them to formal termination with no suspension.
• Lisa, with the 112 or so programs that have been terminated, what's the cost savings?
• One that I thought you might ask about: there's a termination of a BS in nursing from ADRN.

Summary: The committee met to discuss higher education funding and capital building policy. Members first heard an update from NDUS Deputy Commissioner Lisa Johnson on low-producing academic programs. She described a proposed board policy using a five-year rolling window and thresholds of fewer than 10 undergraduate graduates or fewer than 5 graduate graduates, with programs flagged for three consecutive review periods going to the board. Possible outcomes would include continuation, continuation with modifications, inactivation, or termination. Members asked about how the review would account for program costs, service to other students, workforce demand, and the difference between inactivation and termination. Johnson said the board would consider broader factors and that campuses already do detailed program analysis. Several members also asked about cost savings and staffing impacts from program terminations, and Johnson said the board would try to provide more information later. The committee then received a report on the Capital Building Fund from Jamie Wilkie. He reviewed the program’s history, matching requirements, and recent uses, noting that about $334 million in state and matching dollars has been invested overall, with most going to deferred maintenance and extraordinary repairs. Members discussed whether the program is reducing deferred maintenance and requested updated systemwide data on deferred maintenance and campus space utilization. Wilkie said the board is considering a new study to update deferred maintenance figures, which are based on information more than 12 years old. He also reported that several institutions have used current biennium funds for projects such as residence hall renovations, health sciences housing, generators, and building repairs. Later, the committee began a detailed walkthrough of a draft bill that would replace the current higher education funding formula with an FTE-based model and also revise the capital building fund structure. The draft would use fall enrollment FTEs, add completion incentives for degrees in in-demand fields, and create a separate research funding component for UND and NDSU tied to doctoral completions and external research expenditures. Members raised concerns about the use of older data in the formula, the treatment of waivers, the weighting of professional and health sciences programs, and the use of CIP codes to define CTE and education incentives. The bill draft would also combine capital building fund tiers, broaden eligible uses for deferred maintenance and legislatively authorized projects, change matching requirements, repeal the old formula chapter and the capital pool, and transfer funds from the Strategic Investment and Improvements Fund into the capital building fund. No final votes were taken during the portion provided; the meeting was primarily discussion and review.

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• For example, a parent who has been diagnosed with a terminal illness may want to proactively select a
• , but what if you have a father that hasn't been in the child's life forever, the mother may be terminally
• ill, even if it's in Mexico or the United States, and she's terminally ill.
• And she's terminally ill. ...the United States and she's terminally ill and going to maybe pass.
• So there are early reviews for parole eligibility for those under 18 who committed a crime.

Committee: Senate Judiciary

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• HB 2511, early ballot, military affairs and elections.
• HB 2856, early childhood education and appropriations. HB 2875, regular commerce.
• HB 2677, early termination. HB 2669, state tree. HB 2770, home confinement.
• HB 2074, campaign committee's termination statement contribution; F.M.A.E.
• HCR 2074, Campaign Committee's Termination Statement Contribution; F.M.A.E.

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• Many later credited him with helping them survive early struggles.
• Today I'm offering an amendment that adds a $250 per terminal fee to the video lottery terminals operating
• Today I'm offering an amendment that adds a $250 per terminal fee to the video lottery terminals operating
• So there's not a lottery terminal program.
• So there's not a lottery terminal program.

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• With our rebrand last week, we announced the names of our customer terminals.
• This is a great customer terminal that they could put at a cell site to provide backhaul, where it's
• , and all projections say by the early 2030s we're going to be 60,000-plus satellites in space.
• We will launch Artemis II in early 20.
• For the American people, we will launch Artemis II in early '26 next year.

Committee: Senate Military and Veterans Affairs, Space, and Domestic Security

Summary: The Committee of Military, Veterans Affairs, Space, and Domestic Security heard a series of informational presentations focused on Florida’s aerospace and space ecosystem. Blue Origin described its Florida operations at Rocket Park, Launch Complex 36, and Port Canaveral, highlighting New Glenn and Blue Moon development, recent launch activity, workforce development efforts, and major capital investment in the state. Amazon Leo (formerly Project Kuiper) outlined its low-Earth-orbit broadband network, customer terminals, satellite and gateway architecture, dark-sky mitigation efforts, and Florida investments including a payload processing facility and launch support infrastructure. Starcatcher Industries presented its concept for an orbital energy grid that would beam power to satellites, discussed demonstrations in Florida, customer interest, and plans for a first satellite launch next year. Space Florida President and CEO Rob Long gave a strategic update on the state’s aerospace industry, citing billions in private investment, growth in aerospace establishments and projects, spaceport infrastructure investments, workforce and university partnerships, and the importance of maintaining Florida’s competitiveness against other states. NASA Kennedy Space Center Director Janet Petro then emphasized Artemis II preparations, rising launch demand, aging infrastructure, and the need for stronger state-federal coordination and investment in research, workforce, and common-use infrastructure. She compared Florida’s support structure with Texas and argued that Florida must act to avoid losing aerospace leadership. Members asked questions about mobile and aviation applications for Amazon Leo, dark-sky impacts, satellite counts, Starcatcher’s power transmission losses and storage approach, and NASA’s funding and infrastructure constraints. Petro also discussed limits on commercial investment in common infrastructure under federal rules and suggested that state investment and better alignment among partners could help. No bills were considered and no votes were taken beyond adjournment; the committee concluded by adopting a motion to adjourn.

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• very early when they're not something very early when they're not terminal.<02:19:47.679><c> So</c><
• non-terminal and the importance of non-terminal disease.
• of terminal versus non- terminal<02:36:57.520><c> and</c><02:36:57.680><c> the</c><02:36:57.760><c>
• </c> non-terminal disease. non-terminal disease.
• They're terminal diseases, right? you. They're terminal diseases, right?

Committee: House Health, Human Services and Elderly Affairs

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• But early, somewhere in the beginning of August, we will have a... ...we'll see where it goes.
• So not simply just terminating them on graduates alone.
• it or get them through or move them to formal termination with no students.
• Lisa, with the 112 or so programs that have been terminated, what's the cost savings?
• And the 112 are terminated. And then, just to point out, 38 were within the last two months.

Committee: Joint Higher Education Funding Review Committee