Transcript Highlights:

• to get rich on the backs of our taxpayers.
• to get rich on the backs of our taxpayers.
• to get rich on the backs of our taxpayers.
• to get rich on the backs of our taxpayers.
• to get rich on the backs of our taxpayers.

Committee: House Higher Education

Keywords: 988, house, all

Transcript Highlights:

• , If we did this and we expanded it to all taxpayers that would be creating jobs, is this affordable?
• , or potentially still be taxpayers, who seek this credit without an IRB.
• So there will still be taxpayers or potentially still be taxpayers that do seek this credit without it
• There will still be taxpayers or potentially still be taxpayers that do seek this credit without an IRB
• taxpayer account at Tax and Rev, and they can carry it forward for three years.

Summary: The committee heard testimony on the committee substitute for House Bill 27, which would modernize New Mexico’s research and development tax credit. Sponsors said the bill would allow the credit to be stacked with industrial revenue bonds for qualifying facilities, exclude data centers and national laboratories, permit up to $50 million in transferable credits per year for 2026-2028, and extend the carry-forward period to seven years. Supporters from business, construction, labor, and economic development groups argued the changes would improve cash flow for startups, help attract and retain high-wage jobs, and encourage commercialization of New Mexico-developed technology in sectors such as advanced energy, aerospace, fusion, and advanced manufacturing. Several witnesses emphasized that the bill was intended to keep commercialization and capital investment in New Mexico rather than losing them to other states. Committee members raised concerns about tax policy, fiscal impact, and whether the bill would truly lead to commercialization. Questions focused on the transferability provision, the $50 million annual cap, who could buy credits, whether data centers should be excluded, how the bill interacts with IRBs and other incentives, and whether the labs could benefit. Some members supported the bill’s goals but worried it was too narrowly tailored or could create winners and losers. The sponsors and administration witnesses responded that the bill was designed to tie R&D to physical infrastructure, provide capital to early-stage companies, and protect the general fund with caps and time limits. They also said the bill would not apply to national labs and would not change existing rural-area doubling provisions. After extensive discussion and no opposition testimony, the committee did not advance the bill. Representative Cadena moved to table the committee substitute for House Bill 27, Representative Parra made the second, and the motion passed without opposition, so the bill was tabled.

Transcript Highlights:

• County jails, as we all know, are funded by local taxpayers.
• The question is who pays, and the answer is clear: Washington taxpayers.
• The question is who pays, and the answer is clear, Washington taxpayers.
• Washington taxpayers.
• Please adopt this amendment that helps the taxpayers of Washington.

Bills: SB5917 , SB6080 , SB6085 , SB5940 , SB5945 , SB5957 , SB5966

Committee: Senate Human Services

Keywords: abortion medications, reproductive health, mifepristone, misoprostol, abortion access, medication abortion, early pregnancy loss, miscarriage management, Department of Corrections, Department of Health, health care providers, health care entities, Indian health care providers, pharmacy distribution, wholesale distribution, reproductive rights, women's health, emergency clause, immediate effect, public health

Transcript Highlights:

• If it hasn't been already, I have real questions about whether taxpayer privacy laws have already been
• They reportedly wanted a get-out-of-jail-free card giving them access to sensitive taxpayer data they
• How does one ensure that taxpayer money is well spent?
• Meanwhile despite well-intentioned efforts the IRS's ability to serve taxpayers has barely budged.
• and actually benefit taxpayers? Thank you, Senator. I also enjoyed speaking with you yesterday.

Committee: Senate Finance Committee

Keywords: nomination, Deputy Secretary of Treasury, economic policy, inflation, tariffs, tribal nations, government relations

Summary: The meeting convened to consider the nomination of Mike Falkender for the position of Deputy Secretary of the Treasury. During the session, multiple members voiced concerns regarding current economic policies under the Trump administration, particularly around inflation, tariffs, and the impact on small businesses. Discussions frequently centered on the administration's approach to tariffs and taxation, and how these factors contribute to the rising cost of living and potential job losses. Additionally, the importance of bolstering government-to-government relationships with tribal nations was emphasized, highlighting the need for specialized offices focused on tribal affairs within the Treasury Department.

Transcript Highlights:

• I'm Scott Kaufman, the legislative director for the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association.
• The Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association is proud to support SB 984.
• It is available to taxpayers who file a standard deduction or itemize, but is reduced for taxpayers whose
• For the Franchise Tax Board to ensure that taxpayers pay the correct amount of tax.
• It provides clarity and a uniform standard for taxpayers to follow.

Committee: Senate Revenue and Taxation

Keywords: 987, senate, all

Transcript Highlights:

• Now here in Idaho, we believe taxpayer money is sacred.
• And we sure don't believe in turning taxpayer programs into an all-you-can-eat steel buffet for fraudsters
• Now here in Idaho, we believe taxpayer money is sacred. than kids.
• Now, here in Idaho, we believe taxpayer money is sacred, comes from people who work hard, wake up early
• And we sure don't believe in turning taxpayer programs into an all-you-can-eat steel buffet for frosters

Committee: House State Affairs

Keywords: 989, all

Transcript Highlights:

• The DOR estimates this bill affects about 700 taxpayers and will result in a decrease to the general
• for amending one administrative rule, creating special notices, website and system changes, and taxpayer
• In addition, the amount of exclusion depends on the amount of time the taxpayer held the stock.
• And so it is something that will affect this taxpayer year. Yeah. And so thank you.
• to rely on and therefore just, you know, so that taxpayers could reference it.

Bills: HB2175 , HB2227 , HB2528 , HB2292 , HB2257 , HB2608

Committee: House Finance

Keywords: durable medical equipment, sales tax exemption, healthcare accessibility, cost reduction, nonprofit providers, affordable housing, real estate tax, exemption, housing policy, tax incentives, real estate excise tax, REET, growth management act, GMA, local government finance, capital facilities plan, comprehensive plan, county tax, city tax, voter approval

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• In 2007, taxpayers were promised that if a road ever went bankrupt, this particular one, the taxpayers
• These deals never... taxpayers.
• This has to be in the best interest of the taxpayers.
• Do you have any idea of what it would cost taxpayers to build this project?
• We're not asking the taxpayers to pay for this project right now.

Bills: HJR58 , HJR63 , HB263 , HB542 , HB905 , HB 1288 , HB1402 , HB2003 , HB2262 , HB2323 , HB2429 , HB2876 , HB3019 , HB263

Committee: House S/C on Transportation Funding

Keywords: healthcare, insurance, elderly, retirement, benefits, transit-oriented projects, constitutional amendment, state highway fund, funding allocation, voter approval, highway fund, funding, public transportation, transit projects, transportation, local transit, fund allocation, voting rights, election integrity, ballot access

Transcript Highlights:

• Less money from Medicaid to schools means districts will have to burden the local taxpayer in order to
• Less money from Medicaid to schools means districts will have to burden the local taxpayer in order to
• </c> will have to burden the local taxpayer will have to burden the local taxpayer in<00:10:08.959><c
• </c><01:23:14.000><c> maybe</c> teaching staff and the taxpayers maybe teaching staff and the taxpayers
• taxpayer taxpayer but<01:26:13.440><c> I'm</c><01:26:13.600><c> just</c><01:26:13.840><c> not</c><01

Committee: Senate Education

Keywords: 1191, senate, all

Transcript Highlights:

• </c> again, these are hardworking taxpayer again, these are hardworking taxpayer dollars.<00:50:40.000
• </c> spend taxpayer money on was taxpayer spend taxpayer money on was taxpayer funded<00:57:40.400><c
• </c> would be paid by Minnesota taxpayers would be paid by Minnesota taxpayers with<01:17:19.920><c>
• </c> the taxpayers of the United States. the taxpayers of the United States.
• </c> hardworking taxpayers. hardworking taxpayers.

Keywords: 1187, senate, all

Transcript Highlights:

• . taxpayers. taxpayers.
• have to pay, the levy that the taxpayers have to pay, the property<01:23:40.560><c> taxpayers.
• Now, it'll make it property taxpayers.
• </c> of a different pocket of the taxpayer. of a different pocket of the taxpayer.
• </c><02:38:20.880><c> Um</c> onto property taxpayers. Um onto property taxpayers.

Committee: House Ways and Means

Keywords: 1189, house, all

Transcript Highlights:

• </c> current ing the least cost to taxpayers current ing the least cost to taxpayers in<00:31:29.799>
• </c><00:42:05.599><c> ID</c> very simple it's a name a taxpayer ID very simple it's a name a taxpayer
• So yes, there are taxpayers that choose to take their overpayment as a refund, and there are taxpayers
• So yes, there are taxpayers that choose to take their overpayment as a refund, and there are taxpayers
• </c><01:15:35.400><c> being</c> so that helps to limit taxpayers being so that helps to limit taxpayers

Keywords: 928, house, all

Summary: The committee received an overview from Chris of the Legislative Budget Assistance Office on how it will estimate unrestricted revenues for the General Fund, Education Trust Fund, Highway Fund, and Fish and Game Fund. He explained that the committee’s work is based on current law, not pending bills, and that the estimates will feed into a House resolution and an amendment to House Bill 1, the operating budget. He also described the broader budget process, including how House and Senate estimates are reconciled, how surplus statements account for revenue changes from enacted bills, and how a committee of conference could resolve differences later in the session. No votes were taken. Members then asked about why the Education Trust Fund was running below plan. Chris said the shortfall appeared to be driven largely by business taxes, including differences in the BET/BPT split and improved tax-processing systems that better track where business tax payments belong. Representative Orr also asked about tobacco tax collections and out-of-state sales; Chris said tobacco revenue was likely overestimated in 2023 based on COVID-era patterns, with more people smoking at home, and noted that e-cigarette tax revenue goes to the General Fund while cigarette taxes are split between the General Fund and Education Trust Fund. He said he did not have a specific estimate for cross-border sales. Commissioner Lindsay St. Pierre of the Department of Revenue then began a deeper dive into the department’s role and the taxes it administers. She reviewed the department’s mission, organizational structure, taxpayer services, and the tax policy and legislative analysis staff who prepare fiscal notes and testify on bills. She noted that the department administers about $2.9 billion in revenue across major taxes such as business taxes, meals and rooms, and utility property tax, and that the figures being discussed were preliminary because the annual report had not yet been issued. The discussion was informational only, with no formal action taken.

Transcript Highlights:

• It simply is returning money, a portion of taxpayer dollars, to individuals to help offset that very
• It simply is returning money, a portion of taxpayer dollars to individuals to help offset that very cost
• Well, that's roughly $40,000 of taxpayer money per follower.
• I think the taxpayers certainly deserve this extra scrutiny on these dollars. Thank you.
• Again, to emphasize the motivation of the proposal is to make a policy change that, for the taxpayer,

Committee: Senate Revenue and Taxation

Summary: The committee heard several tax and revenue measures. SB 1277, by Senator Grove, proposed a California Cost of Living Tax Credit modeled on the 2022 middle-class tax refund to provide direct relief to low- and middle-income Californians facing high housing, gas, energy, and general living costs. Supporters said it would help working families, farmworkers, teachers, and others; opponents, including the California Tax Reform Association and the California Teachers Association, argued California already has a progressive tax system, that refundable credits are costly and can be difficult to administer, and that the bill would reduce General Fund revenues and Proposition 98 funding. The bill was held on call after extensive debate and no motion was made at that time. The committee then heard SB 1287, which would create a targeted tax credit to encourage private investment in short-line railroad infrastructure. The author and rail industry witnesses said the credit would support safety, bridge and track upgrades, emissions reductions, freight efficiency, and rural and agricultural supply chains, while opponents argued a direct grant program would be preferable to a tax credit. The bill was accepted with committee amendments and placed on call after a motion to move it forward. SB 1407 would exempt military retirement pay and surviving spouse benefits from state income tax, with the author, State Treasurer Fiona Ma, and veterans’ groups arguing it would help retain veterans in California, support second careers, and keep federal retirement dollars in the state. The California Teachers Association and California Tax Reform Association opposed it as another tax expenditure that would reduce General Fund revenue. The committee approved the bill on a due pass as amended vote to the Senate Committee on Military and Veterans Affairs, with several members voting aye and others not voting, and the bill was placed on call. The committee also heard SB 1349, which directs the Legislative Analyst’s Office to review major tax expenditures and evaluate their costs, beneficiaries, and effectiveness. Supporters, including CTA, AFSCME, cities, counties, and many teachers, said the state needs more accountability for roughly $94 billion in annual tax expenditures and their impact on schools and the budget. The bill was moved with committee amendments and placed on call. Additional measures discussed included SB 1078, authorizing Santa Cruz County to seek voter approval for a temporary local sales tax increase to fund health care and safety-net services; SB 1120, extending the California Competes Tax Credit through 2035 and making it refundable for certain strategic industries; and SB 1275, which would convert the state sales tax on vehicle purchases into a deductible vehicle license fee to reduce Californians’ federal tax burden. SB 1120 and SB 1275 both received support from business and industry witnesses, with no opposition testimony noted, and were moved on call or with a due pass as amended vote as the committee continued through the file.

Transcript Highlights:

• It simply is returning money, a portion of taxpayer dollars, to individuals to help offset that very
• Well, that's roughly $40,000 of taxpayer money per follower.
• I think the taxpayers certainly deserve this extra scrutiny on these dollars. Thank you.
• to buy a new car. also providing incentives for taxpayers to buy a new car, or in this case, a used
• Again, to emphasize the motivation of the proposal is to make a policy change that, for the taxpayer,

Summary: The committee heard Senate Bill 1277, which would create a California Cost of Living Tax Credit modeled on the 2022 middle-class tax refund to provide refundable relief to low- and middle-income Californians facing high housing, fuel, energy, and general living costs. Senator Grove and supporters, including the California Policy Center and some local government representatives, argued the bill would put direct relief into the hands of working families. Opposition came from the California Tax Reform Association and the California Teachers Association, which said California already has progressive tax credits and that the proposal would be costly to the General Fund and reduce money for schools and other services. After extended debate, the bill was not advanced; a roll call vote on a motion to pass it to Appropriations failed 1-4, and the bill was held/fails on the floor with a request for reconsideration noted. The committee then heard SB 1287, which would create a capped tax credit to encourage private investment in short-line railroad infrastructure. The author and rail industry witnesses said the measure would improve safety, reliability, emissions, and freight movement, especially for rural communities and agriculture, and that it was a public-private partnership rather than a handout. Opposition from CTA and the California Tax Reform Association argued a direct grant program would be preferable to a tax credit. The bill was accepted with committee amendments and placed on call without a final vote in the transcript. Members also considered SB 1407, which would fully exempt military retirement pay and surviving spouse benefits from state income tax, increasing the prior partial exemption. The author, State Treasurer Fiona Ma, and veterans’ groups said the change would help retain veterans in California, support local economies, and align California with most other states. CTA and CTRA opposed on General Fund grounds. The committee approved the bill on a due-pass-as-amended motion to the Committee on Military and Veterans Affairs, with the roll call showing support and the bill placed on call. Later, the committee heard SB 1349, directing the Legislative Analyst’s Office to review major tax expenditures and evaluate their goals, beneficiaries, and effects on revenues and Proposition 98 funding. CTA, CTRA, and several local government and labor supporters backed the bill as a way to improve accountability for roughly $94 billion in annual tax expenditures. The bill was accepted with committee amendments and placed on call. The committee also heard SB 1078, authorizing Santa Cruz County to ask voters for a temporary half-cent sales tax to help fund health care and safety-net services amid federal cuts; it was placed on call. SB 1120, extending the California Competes Tax Credit through 2035 and making it refundable for certain strategic industries, received strong support from business and manufacturing groups and was passed on a due-pass-as-amended motion to Appropriations. Finally, SB 1275, which would replace the state sales tax on vehicle purchases with a vehicle license fee structure intended to increase federal deductibility for Californians, was passed 4-0 as amended to the Committee on Transportation.

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• base, and that we are growing taxpayer base, and that we are growing the<00:09:57.519><c> next</c><00
• </c><00:16:39.920><c> forwarding</c> Senator Boswell asked how the Kentucky taxpayer is fronting the
• We don't want to continue to go to the General Assembly and ask for taxpayer dollars.
• We don't want to continue to go to the General Assembly and ask for taxpayer dollars.
• So what you have to do taxpayer dollars.

Keywords: Meeting Start 00:00:00 Roll Call 00:00:08 Infrastructure Grant Program 00:00:45 SB 76 Discussion 00:25:50 SB 76 Vote 00:31:55, 958, all

Summary: The committee met without a quorum at first, so it began with an informational presentation from Dr. Kristen Goodell, executive director of LifeKY, about innovation infrastructure and a proposed grant program to support life sciences and other startup facilities. She argued that Kentucky’s research investments only translate into jobs and companies if startups have access to physical lab and equipment space, and said shared facilities can serve many companies over time. Goodell described LifeKY’s Northern Kentucky facility as a proof of concept, noting it has attracted companies from other states and Japan, secured a Thermo Fisher Scientific partnership, and could be replicated elsewhere in the Commonwealth. Members asked about university pipelines, local talent development, sustainability, and how the grant program would measure return on investment; Goodell emphasized public-private partnerships, earned revenue, philanthropy, internships, and STEM programming as part of the model. The committee then took up Senate Bill 76, sponsored by Senator Bledsoe, which would limit school board occupational license tax increases by raising the population threshold for such increases from 300,000 to 500,000. Bledsoe said the bill was intended to respond to Fayette County’s recent tax controversy, restore public trust, and provide stability for employees, employers, and the school system. He argued that occupational taxes affect many commuters who work in Fayette County but live elsewhere, and said the measure would give time for community buy-in before any future increase. Supportive comments came from Senator Nunn and others, while Senator Boswell asked about the tax rate and cautioned against local tax increases offsetting state income tax reductions. After discussion, the committee called the roll on SB 76. The bill advanced on a roll-call vote, with Senator Armstrong explaining a no vote because he did not want to take tools away from local government and preferred local control. The transcript indicates the measure moved forward from committee after the vote.

Transcript Highlights:

• You may have heard me earlier talk about being a good steward of taxpayer dollars.
• It's on the back of ratepayers in that case, not on the back of taxpayers.
• And putting this on grants from taxpayers we think is a really bad idea.
• That's far safer for taxpayers than just giving taxpayer grants. So we would suggest that.
• We certainly don't want to ratepayers, but not taxpayers either.

Bills: SB1468 , SB1612 , SB1789 , SB2530 , SB2571 , SB2717 , SB2967

Committee: Senate Business & Commerce

Keywords: utility systems, Texas A&M, regents authority, construction, improvement, construction contracts, trust funds, property rights, mechanics lien, contractors, trustee liability, mechanic's lien, liability, attorney's fees, windstorm insurance, Texas Windstorm Insurance Association, insurance regulation, administrative penalties, coastal counties, catastrophe year

Transcript Highlights:

• So, we'll be using taxpayer money to pay back taxpayer money, basically.
• And the taxpayers will be paid by the state.
• is also taxpayer money.
• the state, Madam Chair, is taxpayer money.
• We can generally say— That that is taxpayer money.

Committee: House House Health & Human Services

Transcript Highlights:

• On the next page, it talks more about the taxpayer endowment trust fund that you started to address.
• First of all, we have spent years now protecting and valuing continually how we spend taxpayer dollars
• We see $200 million of taxpayer money being set aside into risky investments, direct investments into
• Please represent your people back home, the taxpayers.
• Less of the taxpayers' dollars. This is not a conservative vote.

Bills: HB3418 , HB3985 , HB3463 , HB3002 , HB4303 , HB3919 , HB3416 , HB3417 , HB3415 , HB2206 , HB3414 , HB3265 , HB3310 , HB3413 , HB4486 , HB1219 , SR39 , SB1177 , HB3298 , HB2696 , HB3941 , HB3970 , HB3264 , HB3321 , HB2650 , HB3497 , HB3980 , HB3981 , HB4421 , HB3177 , HB3322 , HB3499 , HB3500 , HB3845 , HB3742 , HB3622 , HB1250 , HB2710 , HB3831 , HB4408 , HB1002 , HB3008 , HB3086 , HB3595 , HB3678 , HB4107 , HB3695 , HB3315 , HB3590 , HB3006 , HB3151 , HB2959 , HB2398 , HB3026 , HB3467 , HB4268 , HB3372 , HB2210 , HB4359 , HB4427

Keywords: public works, bidding procedures, construction contracts, transparency, public trust, electronic bidding, school districts, property rights, public nuisance, compensation claims, government enforcement, Oklahoma Safe Neighborhoods Act, municipal audit, state auditor, local government, financial transparency, gasoline tax allocations, counties, county officers, education

Summary: The Senate convened with a quorum, offered prayer, and recognized the Doctor and Nurse of the Day, along with several visiting groups in the galleries, including the Goldsby Volunteer Fire Department and families honoring fallen firefighters Todd Pendleton and Brian Jenkins, the Sapulpa Elks Antlers, the Grove Chamber of Commerce, and northeastern Oklahoma cattlemen. The chamber adopted Senate Resolution 39, celebrating the 100th anniversary of U.S. Route 70 and its economic importance to southern Oklahoma communities. The main item of business was the Joint Committee Report for Senate Bill 1177, the General Appropriation Bill for the State of Oklahoma. Senators questioned the budget’s overall size, the use of gross production tax revenues, the new sovereign/endowment trust fund, Medicaid and Health Care Authority funding, mental health appropriations, child care subsidy funding, school security, career tech, tourism, the Commissioners of the Land Office, textbook allocations, and several other agency lines. The chair explained that the budget included about $1.5 billion in cash and sweeps, a $250 million base appropriation for the Health Care Authority, $200 million for the endowment trust fund, $31 million for PREP projects, $25 million for the Governor’s Quick Action Closing Fund, and other agency-specific appropriations and supplements. Several members debated the report before adoption. Supporters argued the budget addressed agency needs and future savings, while opponents criticized it as a flat or spending-heavy budget that favored special projects and well-connected interests over core services such as child care, mental health, water infrastructure, and county needs. After debate, the Joint Committee Report for SB 1177 was adopted, and the Senate moved through the budget discussion with no recorded roll-call vote in the transcript provided.

Transcript Highlights:

• We should be favoring the taxpayer when there's any question.
• Representative Orcutt: It favors the tax taker over the taxpayer.
• It favors the tax taker over the taxpayer, and it says, oh, by the way, taxpayer, the rules for you are
• Finally, the taxpayer got a decent ruling.
• And the taxpayers should not be the ones.

Bills: HB2720 , HB2073 , HB2487 , SB5816 , SB5919 , SB5831 , SB6137 , SB6244 , SB6044 , SB6132 , SB5109 , SB5877 , SB6258 , HB2720 , HB2073 , HB2487 , SB5816 , SB5919 , SB5831 , SB6137 , SB6244 , SB5420 , SB5868 , SB6044 , SB6132 , SJM8002

Keywords: behavioral health, emergency services, health insurance, provider access, mental health funding, premium assistance, funding, healthcare, subsidies, insurance tax, state regulation, insurers, taxation, budget impact, juice grapes, agriculture, commerce, market access, fire safety, insurance incentives

Transcript Highlights:

• We should be favoring the taxpayer when there's any question.
• It favors the tax taker over the taxpayer.
• Finally, the taxpayer got a decent ruling.
• That passage of this bill will cost the taxpayers $8 to $13 billion.
• And the taxpayers should not be the ones.

Bills: HB2720 , HB2073 , HB2487 , SB5816 , SB5919 , SB5831 , SB6137 , SB6244 , SB6044 , SB6132 , SB5109 , SB5877 , SB6258

Keywords: behavioral health, emergency services, health insurance, provider access, mental health funding, premium assistance, funding, healthcare, subsidies, insurance tax, state regulation, insurers, taxation, budget impact, juice grapes, agriculture, commerce, market access, fire safety, insurance incentives

Summary: The House took up and passed Second Substitute Senate Bill 5292, which modifies the paid family and medical leave program. Supporters said the bill uses an actuarial model to set rates and maintains a four-month reserve to improve program stability. It passed final passage 95-1. The House then considered Substitute Senate Bill 5841, dealing with completion of course and financial aid-related requirements. An amendment was adopted to add a financial aid calculator and require outreach to students who indicate they have completed a financial aid form, with supporters saying it would help students understand aid eligibility and access college opportunities. The bill then passed as amended, 92-4. The most extensive debate was on Engrossed Second Substitute Senate Bill 5981, concerning the 340B drug pricing program and contract pharmacy relationships. Members offered many amendments seeking to limit the bill’s scope, add transparency, or direct 340B savings toward patient care, low-income patients, rural areas, or charity care; most were rejected. Supporters argued the bill would help safety-net providers, hospitals, and FQHCs, while opponents warned it would mainly benefit large hospital systems, create administrative burdens, and likely face litigation. After the House adopted the committee amendment and rejected the floor amendments, the bill passed 67-30. The transcript then moved on to other business, including Senate messages and the start of debate on House Bill 2487 on taxes, with one technical amendment to clarify taxpayer definitions.