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• And small employer group market, the PERS plan is a large employer group market.
• Large employer, there are ACA requirements for large employer groups.
• catastrophe insurance protection.
• But that's, you go to a self-insured plan with high catastrophe insurance protection.
• That's the amount that's being paid in a biennium towards the insurance.

Bills: SB2160

Keywords: health insurance, public employees, uniform group insurance, retirement, state employees, 908, all

Summary: The committee resumed work on Senate Bill 2160, which would move the Public Employees Retirement System health plan from grandfathered to non-grandfathered status under the Affordable Care Act. PERS officials Rebecca Frickie and Derek Holbein explained that the bill would allow more flexibility in plan design, including higher deductibles, co-pays, and out-of-pocket maximums, while also adding enhanced preventive benefits. They clarified that ACA “essential health benefits” apply to individual and small-group markets, not to PERS as a large employer, and that the bill’s projected cost increases were based on actuarial estimates and prior bid scenarios from Sanford and Blue Cross Blue Shield. Members debated whether the bill would actually save money or simply shift costs to employees. Supporters argued that non-grandfathered status would create more levers to manage medical inflation and could produce net premium savings through plan redesign, citing prior bid comparisons showing potential reductions of 1% to 8% depending on the option. Opponents, including Representative Schauer and North Dakota United president Nick Archelette, questioned how the state would pay for the estimated $25 million to $30 million in added benefits and warned that employees could face higher out-of-pocket costs amid already strained household budgets. Frickie said the legislature would control funding decisions and that current law requiring the state to pay full family premiums could be changed only by statute. The committee also discussed reserve funding, with members noting that a $4.3 million reserve draw in the bill was intended to cover the final months of the biennium and could be modified. After testimony and discussion, Vice Chair Johnson moved a do-pass recommendation and referral to Appropriations. The motion passed 10-3-1, with Representatives Ostlie, Schatz, and Schauer voting no. Representative Gump agreed to carry the bill.

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• </c> insurance to their employees. insurance to their employees.
• market, and then the fully insured large group market. terms of what terms of what Repres I'll<00:14
• large group market. fully insured large group market.
• He added that they are citing the increase in the cost of fully insured individual and small group coverage
• He said the increase in the cost of fully insured individual and small group coverage is part of that

Bills: HF3388, HF400

Keywords: HF3388, Minnesota premium security plan, reinsurance, health insurance, group health carriers, MCHA, MNsure, individual market, premium stabilization, carrier assessment, health insurance assessment, premium security plan account, state innovation waiver, high-risk pool, reinsurance payments, healthcare premiums, insurance carriers, deferral of assessment, financially impaired condition, HF400

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• But unfortunately, the federal law does not cover life insurers, long-term care, or disability insurers
• She said, secure life insurance now before you get tested.
• She said, secure life insurance now before you get tested.
• I have pretty good insurance.
• insurance.

Bills: H5112, S2921, H4914

Keywords: genetic discrimination, genetic testing, genetic information, DNA, hereditary risk, insurance underwriting, life insurance, health insurance, long-term care insurance, disability insurance, medical privacy, consumer protection, anti-discrimination, insurer regulation, Commissioner of Insurance, chapter 176D, underwriting, hereditary disease, genomics, travel insurance

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• This specifies that the requirement for an insurer to provide the insured with certain information about
• This is the bill modifying the insurance fraud program administered by the Insurance Commissioner.
• Everyone on this committee knows that I am not a fan of uniform laws, because rarely are uniform laws
• presented in a uniform fashion.
• uniform act.

Bills: SB6178, SB5831

Keywords: SB6178, property insurance, insurance claims, assignment of benefits, AOB, post-loss assignment, post-loss benefits, homeowners insurance, policyholder, insured, restoration contractor, mitigation contractor, public adjuster, insurance commissioner, claims handling, consumer protection, void and unenforceable, Washington insurance code, chapter 48 RCW, civil penalty

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• A property insurer that uses a wildfire risk score for underwriting or rating must provide the insured
• It does this by turning what is the definition of insurance fraud for purposes of the insurance fraud
• It does this by turning what is the definition of insurance fraud for purposes of the insurance fraud
• impact the insurance industry or insurance consumers or beneficiaries beyond insurance fraud to furnish
• Insurance Commissioners' Travel Insurance Model Act.

Bills: SB6178, SB5831

Keywords: SB6178, property insurance, insurance claims, assignment of benefits, AOB, post-loss assignment, post-loss benefits, homeowners insurance, policyholder, insured, restoration contractor, mitigation contractor, public adjuster, insurance commissioner, claims handling, consumer protection, void and unenforceable, Washington insurance code, chapter 48 RCW, civil penalty

Summary: The committee heard public testimony on several insurance and consumer protection bills. On engrossed substitute Senate Bill 5928, staff and supporters described wildfire risk score and model disclosure requirements for homeowners whose policies are nonrenewed, canceled, or adversely affected by wildfire risk, along with insurer website disclosures about mitigation discounts and a process for consumers to request revised scores. The Office of the Insurance Commissioner, AARP, a mayor from Medical Lake, and a fire chief supported the bill as a transparency and consumer protection measure, while industry witnesses said the bill was heavily amended but still too regulatory and potentially costly, and some urged further technical changes. Members asked about how the bill interacts with mitigation efforts, the Fair Plan, and whether it would help consumers understand what actions could improve insurability. The committee also heard engrossed substitute Senate Bill 6031, which would create a standalone Class B felony for insurance fraud, expand the insurance commissioner’s fraud program, require reporting of certain suspected crimes affecting insurance, and address restitution in criminal cases. The Office of the Insurance Commissioner and AARP supported the bill as a response to organized fraud, but a criminal defense representative argued that part of the bill overlaps with existing misdemeanor insurance-claim fraud law and could create conflicting penalties and charging issues. Members asked about the 10-year statute of limitations and how it compares with other crimes. Substitute Senate Bill 6079, a wildfire mitigation grant program, was also heard. The bill would create the Strengthen Washington Homes Program to fund retrofits meeting IBHS wildfire-prepared standards and would bar insurers from using wildfire risk to disqualify properties that meet that standard. The OIC, fire commissioners, the prime sponsor, and AARP supported it as a way to reduce nonrenewals and help homeowners harden their homes, while insurance industry witnesses said they could support the grant program but wanted Section 7 removed because they believed it would interfere with underwriting. The committee also heard substitute Senate Bill 6248 on travel insurance, which would adopt a Washington Travel Insurance Act with licensing, disclosure, tax, and unfair trade practice provisions; the travel insurance industry supported it and said prior amendments had been incorporated. Finally, the committee took testimony on engrossed Senate Bill 5280, which would regulate virtual currency kiosks with daily transaction limits, fee caps, disclosures, receipts, and reporting requirements. The Department of Financial Institutions and the Attorney General’s Office supported the bill as a response to rising crypto-kiosk fraud, especially elder fraud, while some members questioned whether the limits were too restrictive for legitimate users and asked about enforcement, restitution, blockchain analytics, and whether stronger consumer protections should be added. Additional testimony from industry and consumer advocates was invited, but the hearing moved quickly because of the committee’s limited time.

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• In 2024, the Uniform Law Commission promulgated the Uniform Mortgage Modification Act, which establishes
• Senate Bill 5831 would enact the Uniform Mortgage Modification Act.
• Exclusive policies have often led to negative outcomes for groups of Washingtonians, groups of Americans
• However, they're not insurance professionals.
• The insurance industry, as well as consumer protection groups that protect against fraud and the Washington

Bills: SB5831, SB6178

Keywords: mortgage modification, uniform regulations, homeowners, financial stability, foreclosure prevention, SB6178, property insurance, insurance claims, assignment of benefits, AOB, post-loss assignment, post-loss benefits, homeowners insurance, policyholder, insured, restoration contractor, mitigation contractor, public adjuster, insurance commissioner, claims handling

Summary: The Consumer Protection and Business Committee held public hearings on three Senate bills. SB 5831, the Uniform Mortgage Modification Act, was explained by staff as creating safe harbors so certain mortgage modifications would not affect lien priority or require re-recording; the prime sponsor said it would reduce uncertainty and legal costs. There was no public testimony or questions, and the hearing was closed. The committee then heard Substitute SB 6091, which would prohibit real estate brokers from marketing residential properties to an exclusive group of buyers or brokers unless the property is also concurrently marketed to the public. Staff noted changes from the House version, including removal of Washington Law Against Discrimination language and added clarification that public marketing does not require physical access to the property. The sponsor and supporters, including Zillow, Washington Realtors, Habitat for Humanity, and the Fair Housing Center, said the bill promotes transparency, fair housing, and equal access, while the Rental Housing Association raised a concern about the remaining reference to “lease” and asked for an amendment to avoid unintended application to some rental providers. Members asked several questions about how the bill would work for private marketing, rentals, and potential disparate impacts. Finally, the committee heard SB 6178, which would prohibit post-loss assignment of insurance benefits in property insurance contracts. Staff and the sponsor said the bill is intended to stop contractors from taking over homeowners’ insurance claims after disasters like wildfires, while preserving direct payment arrangements to contractors. The Office of the Insurance Commissioner supported the bill and described an increase in complaints, while also saying it was open to discussing the $50,000 penalty level; the National Insurance Crime Bureau and Washington State Association for Justice also supported the measure. Some members questioned whether the penalty should distinguish between good-faith and bad-faith conduct and whether a cooling-off period or existing consumer protection laws might address the issue. The committee closed the public hearing on SB 6178 and then on SB 6091, and ended the meeting with birthday recognition for two members.

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• First up is the DCCA Insurance Division with comments.
• First up is the DCCA Insurance Division First up is the DCCA Insurance Division with<00:16:27.160><c>
• :29.280><c> on</c><00:16:29.360><c> its</c> Insurance Division will stand on its Insurance Division will
• The third is convening a working group.
• </c> if we're included in the working group if we're included in the working group &gt;&gt; [laughter

Bills: SCR118, SCR173

Keywords: climate change, insurance affordability, working group, disaster recovery, fossil fuel companies, insurance stability, Hawaii Hurricane Relief Fund, ticket scalping, task force, consumer protection, event accessibility, local economy, 910, house, all

Summary: The Committee on Consumer Protection heard two resolutions. SCR 118 SD1 would urge the Insurance Division and the Attorney General to convene a working group on climate change impacts on insurance availability and affordability. The Insurance Division deferred to written testimony, while the Attorney General opposed the measure because of an ongoing lawsuit, asking that references to legal recovery and the AG’s role in convening the group be removed. Members questioned how the resolution might relate to the state’s climate damages litigation and whether it could inform damages calculations. The committee later recommended passage with amendments, including removing the Attorney General as co-convener and changing certain membership references to board chairs; the motion passed unanimously with one excused member. The committee also heard SCR 173 SD1, which would create a task force on event ticket scalping. The Office of Consumer Protection supported the concept but asked to be added as a task force member and said the draft left its role unclear. Supporters, including the National Independent Venue Association and D-BAT, described high resale prices, fraudulent or speculative tickets, and harm to consumers and local businesses. StubHub and the Ticket Policy Forum supported the task force but urged broader scope to include the primary ticket market and ticket sellers, and StubHub also sought inclusion on the task force. Members discussed whether the task force should focus on the secondary market or the broader ticketing ecosystem, and whether the Office of Consumer Protection should be part of the task force or only consulted. The vice chair recommended passage with amendments adding the Office of Consumer Protection as a member and clarifying the consultation language, and the committee adopted that recommendation unanimously with one excused member.

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• The chair lays out House Bill 21. 2911 by Chairman Frank relating to participation in the Uniformed Group
• In other words we must be consistent if we're going to fund the insurance for employees around the state
• This bill came to me from a meeting I hosted in the fall. with a group of public educators and school

Bills: HB 1178, HB1411, HB1441, HB1773, HB1813, HB2107, HB2598, HB2911, HB2967, HB3672, HB5263, HB3797

Keywords: education, temporary certification, out-of-state educators, teacher shortage, military spouses, personal leave, school holidays, employee compensation, overtime provisions, school safety, peace officers, mental health, de-escalation techniques, trauma-informed care, student trustee, school board, student representation, education policy, nonvoting position, school governance

Bills: HB 1178, HB1411, HB1441, HB1773, HB1813, HB2107, HB2598, HB2911, HB2967, HB3672, HB5263, HB3797

Keywords: education, temporary certification, out-of-state educators, teacher shortage, military spouses, personal leave, school holidays, employee compensation, overtime provisions, school safety, peace officers, mental health, de-escalation techniques, trauma-informed care, student trustee, school board, student representation, education policy, nonvoting position, school governance

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• Section 544.002 of the Insurance Code is intended to protect individuals from having insurance companies
• at two types of auto insurance and two types of homeowners insurance to see whether or not Credit scores
• Credit-based insurance scores have been used in insurance for a few decades.
• American National Insurance. Okay.
• To sell their drugs, manufacturers pay placement fees for coverage by PBMs, insurer plans, group purchasing

Bills: HB712, HB722, HB946, HB1687, HB1809, HB1899, HB2528, HB2583, HB2741, HB2750, HB3021, HB3150, HB3265, HB3658, HB3812, HB3960, HB4392, HB4432

Keywords: prostate cancer, health benefit plans, insurance coverage, cost sharing, preventive health care, auto insurance, total loss evaluation, disclosure, insurance materials, vehicle appraisal, HB 946, Texas Insurance Code, automobile insurance claims, oral release, written release, settlement agreement, claim release, property damage, bodily injury, psychological injury

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• I just tell the patient to get on the phone and call the insurance company because what the insurers.
• The first thing is with the other disclosures that are required that an insurer provide to an insured
• assign to single insureds.
• House Bill 712 would require all group, blanket, and individual health insurance policies to comply with
• The chair lays out as pending business HB1576 by Oliverson, relating to group property and casualty insurance

Bills: HB712, HB722, HB946, HB1687, HB1809, HB1899, HB2528, HB2583, HB2741, HB2750, HB3021, HB3150, HB3265, HB3658, HB3812, HB3960, HB4392, HB4432

Keywords: prostate cancer, health benefit plans, insurance coverage, cost sharing, preventive health care, auto insurance, total loss evaluation, disclosure, insurance materials, vehicle appraisal, HB 946, Texas Insurance Code, automobile insurance claims, oral release, written release, settlement agreement, claim release, property damage, bodily injury, psychological injury

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• Do we know of any damages or any counties, municipalities, any of these groups that were put in a bad
• These will be with your shared insurance groups in those political subdivisions such as schools, municipalities
• This is a voluntary buy-in, reinsurance insurance program that they can pay into if they want to.
• One I'm hearing insurance, the next I'm hearing about...
• Insurance, and the next I'm hearing about civil issues as it relates to civil rights.

Bills: SB1288, SB1705, SB1878, SB2019, SB2118

Keywords: emergency management, federal funding, disaster relief, cost sharing, public assistance, bail reform, public funds, nonprofit organizations, political subdivisions, injunctive relief, criminal procedure, surety bond, judicial discretion, uniform bond schedule, liability insurance, judgments, insurance fund, Oklahoma, county sheriff, commissary

Summary: The Senate Local and County Government Committee heard several bills related to local government finance, liability, bail, and jail operations. Senate Bill 1288, by Senator Gillespie, would require the state and political subdivisions to equally share FEMA-related matching costs for federally declared disasters; supporters said it would codify long-standing practice and provide certainty for local governments, with an estimated fiscal impact of just under $4.9 million. After questions about future appropriations and delayed reimbursements, the bill advanced on a 9-0 vote. Senate Bill 2019, by Senator Logan, would create a political subdivision liability insurance guarantee program and fund to help local governments and shared insurance pools manage large federal civil rights judgments. Members questioned the bill’s scope and whether it applied to catastrophic events or civil rights cases; the author said it was intended to spread the burden of large judgments over time and reduce pressure on property taxpayers. The committee adopted a title-off motion and advanced the bill 7-2. Chair Hamilton presented Senate Bills 1705, 1878, and 2118. SB 1705 would bar nonprofits from bailing people out of jail if they receive public funds, with supporters citing public safety and opponents raising concerns about impacts on nonprofit and church-based assistance; it passed 7-2. SB 1878 would establish a uniform bail schedule, limit personal recognizance release for certain repeat or higher-risk offenders, and require court approval to lower certain bonds; it also passed 7-2. SB 2118 would clarify how county sheriffs may use commissary funds for jail-related purposes such as training, equipment, inmate care, and operations; it passed 7-2. The committee then adjourned.

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• They were told their insurance policy wasn't going to be renewed because their insurer wasn't writing
• Insurance costs from 2023 to 2024 for the Cowboy Church have covered. $35,000 to insurance companies.
• Insurance companies also, by potentially denying coverage for mental health that relates to a group of
• Their insurance companies...
• This bill doesn't create any new types of insurance or eliminate insurance.

Bills: HB778, HB 1266, HB1576, HB2213, HB2517, HB2518, HB2841, HB3306, HB3320, HB3388, HB3508, HB3520, HB3689

Keywords: credentialing, healthcare, physician assistants, advanced practice nurses, managed care, hurricane, windstorm, loss mitigation, grants, insurance discounts, property retrofitting, insurance, Texas Windstorm Insurance Association, board composition, coastal counties, property insurance, taxation, Texas FAIR Plan Association, premium taxes, maintenance taxes

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• What this does is it creates a uniform windstorm insurance coverage plan.
• It was a very, very uniform group, as some of you've seen.
• Texas law allows group insurance of commercial lines for large business risk.
• The primary benefit of a group policy is the standardization of the insurance offering.
• By creating a group option, this legislation allows insureds to benefit from economies of scale with

Bills: HB778, HB 1266, HB1576, HB2213, HB2517, HB2518, HB2841, HB3306, HB3320, HB3388, HB3508, HB3520, HB3689

Keywords: credentialing, healthcare, physician assistants, advanced practice nurses, managed care, hurricane, windstorm, loss mitigation, grants, insurance discounts, property retrofitting, insurance, Texas Windstorm Insurance Association, board composition, coastal counties, property insurance, taxation, Texas FAIR Plan Association, premium taxes, maintenance taxes

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• Do we know of any damages or any counties, municipalities, or any of these groups that were put in a
• That's what it's intended uses for these will be with your shared insurance groups in those political
• This is a voluntary buy-in reinsurance insurance program that they can pay into if they want to.
• What I'm hearing is insurance, and then the next I'm hearing about civil issues as it relates to civil
• This establishes a uniform schedule for bail, which pertains predominantly to misdemeanor offenses.

Bills: SB1288, SB1705, SB1878, SB2019, SB2118

Keywords: emergency management, federal funding, disaster relief, cost sharing, public assistance, bail reform, public funds, nonprofit organizations, political subdivisions, injunctive relief, criminal procedure, surety bond, judicial discretion, uniform bond schedule, liability insurance, judgments, insurance fund, Oklahoma, county sheriff, commissary

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• of the fully insured market: individual, small group, and large group.
• </c><00:59:01.400><c> do</c><00:59:01.480><c> we</c> insurance and then of that group do we insurance
• , and as we talk about individual market, small group market, large group market, fully insured market
• Are all of the insurers who currently participate in the individual, small, and large group market those
• large group market fully insured<01:03:27.839><c> Market</c><01:03:28.559><c> um</c><01:03:28.680><c

Bills: HF747, HF1014, HF320, HF400

Keywords: corporate governance, shareholder rights, beneficial ownership, defective corporate acts, Minnesota Business Corporation Act, Minnesota Insurance Guaranty Association, MIGA, insurance guaranty fund, insurer insolvency, covered claim, net worth threshold, high-net-worth insured, financial information request, insurance claims, self-insured retention, deductible, commercial insurance, insurance regulation, Minnesota Statutes 60C.09, guaranty association

Bills: AB404, AB428

Keywords: brew pub, alcoholic beverages, liquor store, licensure, regulation, Department of Taxation, fertility preservation, breast cancer, ovarian cancer, oncology, reproductive medicine, infertility, cancer treatment, egg freezing, embryo freezing, oocyte cryopreservation, sperm banking, assisted reproductive technology, health insurance mandate, Medicaid

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• </c> insurance affordable for folks. insurance affordable for folks.
• </c> contribute to making health insurance contribute to making health insurance more<00:34:20.000><c
• are paid by those who buy the insurance are paid by those who buy the insurance<00:35:55.920><c> in<
• </c> insurance in their premiums. insurance in their premiums.
• </c> an additional report from the insurance an additional report from the insurance companies?

Bills: HF4502, HF3388, HF4106, HF400, HF4138, HF4118, HF4203

Keywords: trusted contact, financial exploitation, elder abuse, elder financial abuse, fraud prevention, financial institution, banking, credit union, broker-dealer, account security, dormant account, consumer protection, scam, suspicious activity, protective services, law enforcement reporting, Minnesota Statutes chapter 45A, HF3388, Minnesota premium security plan, reinsurance

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• But Congress is recommending the adoption of the National Association of Insurance Commissioners group
• Almost all other states have already adopted these changes to their insurance regulations.
• But this is the other thing. is from the insurance industry.
• If the insurance company chooses not to insure the institution, is that going to be a problem?
• What it does is just bring another group of people under the same umbrella on that.

Bills: HF2601, HF2607, HF2027, HF2608

Keywords: financial institutions, insurance regulation, insurance holding company, group capital calculation, liquidity stress test, NAIC, National Association of Insurance Commissioners, insurer solvency, affiliate transactions, groupwide supervision, internationally active insurance group, lead state commissioner, policyholder protection, hazardous financial condition, deposit or bond, contract for deed, conventional loan, cooperative apartment loan, mortgage interest rate cap, average prime offer rate

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• And it's a really dire prognosis for the small group insurance market as it employer-provided health
• One is that the small group market is in freefall.
• Just cash and say, hey, go get your own insurance.
• Insurance is the, health insurance is the one place where someone doesn't know what the cost of the item
• Full disclosure, I'm not an insurance.

Bills: HB138, HB335, HB388, HB138

Keywords: health impact analysis, cost analysis, coverage mandates, health insurance, legislative analysis, health care data, education, funding, classroom resources, teacher support, student outcomes, health benefits, provider dentists, payment reimbursement, insurance code, noncontracting, dental care, reimbursement, health benefit plans, noncontracting providers