Bills: HB8322 , HR1175 , HR1156 , HB1689 , HR965 , HB6398 , HB6409 , HCR40

Keywords: FISA, foreign intelligence, surveillance, national security, privacy, intelligence, legal authority, tax cuts, working families, tax relief, income tax, healthcare, education, overtime pay, child tax credit, temporary protected status, Haiti, immigration, refugees, environmental regulations

Transcript Highlights:

• </c><00:36:39.359><c> the</c> proactive land management reduces the proactive land management reduces
• Whether it's from reducing transparency to artificially reducing air pollution reporting, by ignoring
• Whether it's from reducing transparency to artificially reducing air pollution reporting, by ignoring
• ><c> situation</c> Speaker, of the duplicative situation Speaker, of the duplicative situation that<05
• </c><05:30:23.200><c> of</c> It just eliminates the duplication of It just eliminates the duplication

Bills: HR1156 , HB6398 , HB6409 , HR965 , HR1174 , HR1176 , HCR40

Keywords: tax cuts, working families, tax relief, income tax, healthcare, education, overtime pay, child tax credit, environmental regulations, EPA, clean air, reducing duplication, federal projects, Clean Air Act, emissions, air quality, international pollutants, economic impact, temporary protected status, Haiti

Transcript Highlights:

• We reduce the special education money.
• Line 36 shows the reduced expenditures that school districts, or well, the reduced expenditures the state
• Line 36 shows the reduced expenditures that school districts, or well, the reduced expenditures the state
• </c><00:59:20.559><c> price</c> qualify for free and reduced price qualify for free and reduced price
• Thank you.” on reduced school lunch because she did on reduced school lunch because she did not<01:34

Bills: HF1388

Committee: House Education Finance

Keywords: BARR Center, Building Assets, Reducing Risks, education finance, school funding, grant appropriation, evidence-based program, student achievement, social and emotional learning, school climate, teacher effectiveness, high school graduation, students in poverty, students of color, BIPOC, equity in education, Minnesota Department of Education, urban schools, suburban schools, rural schools, school coaching

Transcript Highlights:

• The changes were to simplify, clarify, and reduce duplication with the statute.
• The changes being proposed are primarily to simplify, clarify, and reduce duplication.
• The changes were primarily to simplify, clarify, and reduce duplication with statute, as well as to reduce
• The changes were primarily to simplify, clarify, and reduce duplication with statute, as well as reduce
• filing requirements and regulatory burden. ...and reduce duplication with statute, as well as reduce

Committee: Senate Commerce and Human Resources

Transcript Highlights:

• On the May revise, that was reduced to $1.5 million.
• and remove duplicity.
• Revisit how we deliver these workforce programs, how we reduce and remove duplicity, how we create better
• I see duplication. I see fragmentation and overlap.
• And it's designed to address the goal of reducing duplication, fragmentation, and overlap.

Summary: The Assembly Higher Education Committee met in a special hearing and took up SB 638 by Senator Padilla, a workforce development bill aimed at creating a coordinating entity called the Middle Class Pipeline Project. The bill would streamline interagency education and workforce programs, improve career technical education and career pathways, and direct resources toward high-unemployment, low-income regions through changes to the CTE incentive grant program. Supporters, including the Association of Independent California Colleges and Universities, the California Edge Coalition, National University, Long Beach City College, and United Ways of California, argued that California needs a statewide coordinating body to reduce silos, improve access to high-quality jobs, and better align education with labor market needs. Committee members focused heavily on whether the proposed entity would duplicate existing bodies such as the California Workforce Development Board and other education/workforce agencies, and whether its broad duties could be carried out with the $1.5 million budget allocation. The author said the bill is intended to move an operational coordinating entity into broader tri-party negotiations with legislative leadership and the Governor, and that the final structure and staffing would depend on those talks. Some members supported the concept but raised concerns about scope, duplication, and whether the bill should be delayed or audited; one member opposed it as too broad and underfunded. The committee ultimately voted to pass SB 638 to the Assembly Appropriations Committee on a courtesy vote. The roll call showed five ayes and three noes, with one member not voting, and the chair later allowed additional members to add on, including an additional aye from Assemblymember Haney. The hearing then adjourned with the chair noting that further conversations would continue on the coordinating entity and its responsibilities.

Transcript Highlights:

• They were simply made to simplify, clarify, and reduce duplication in the statute.
• The rule changes are to simplify and clarify and reduce duplication with the statute, as well as reduce
• The rule changes are to simplify and clarify and reduce duplication with the statute, as well as reduce
• The rule changes are to simplify and clarify and reduce duplication with the statute, as well as reduced
• . and clarify and reduce duplication with the statute, as well as reduce filing requirements and regulatory

Committee: House Business

Transcript Highlights:

• efforts, duplication that none of our licenses want or need and duplication that our regulators should
• efforts, duplication that none of our licenses want or need and duplication that our regulators should
• efforts, duplication that none of our licenses want or need and duplication that our regulators should
• efforts dup duplicative regulatory efforts dup duplication<00:19:50.080><c> that</c><00:19:50.240><c
• </c> entities reducing and reducing a growing entities reducing and reducing a growing and<00:20:05.919

Committee: Senate Commerce and Consumer Protection

Summary: The committee heard several insurance and condominium-related bills. SB 1137 would require insurers to notify policyholders of approved rate changes within 30 days and at least 30 days before the effective date. The Insurance Division supported the bill, while testimony focused on condominium master policies and whether the notice period would be enough for associations to respond to rate increases. The division said the bill would mainly affect admitted carriers, not surplus lines insurers that write many condominium master policies, and warned against limiting the nonadmitted market. SB 293, requiring sellers to disclose when USPS cannot deliver mail or packages to a residential property, was also heard with HAAI Realtors commenting. SB 752 would extend notice periods for cancellation or nonrenewal of property-casualty policies; the Attorney General’s Office raised concerns about contractual impairment and retroactive application. The committee also heard SB 575, which would allow authorized insurers to offer building and hurricane damage coverage for condominium buildings at a lower rate than prior surplus lines coverage. The Insurance Division stood on written testimony, and a condominium owner urged amendments to require a membership vote before such coverage changes, citing concerns about condominium self-governance. SP 1046 would require managing agents to notify unit owners and the Real Estate Commission when a condominium association fails budget and reserve reporting requirements. The Real Estate Commission said the bill was administratively workable as drafted but noted ambiguity over who counts as the “managing agent”; several testifiers opposed the measure, arguing it could disrupt the principal-agent relationship and impose legal judgment on nonlawyers, while others supported it. SP 150, dealing with captive insurance companies seeking exemption from examinations, drew the most detailed discussion. The Captive Insurance Council supported the bill as a way to reduce duplicative oversight and improve Hawaii’s competitiveness, while the Insurance Division opposed it as drafted, citing concerns about broad commissioner discretion, possible missed issues between exams, staffing shortages, and the need to preserve oversight. A committee member asked about a possible middle ground, including a shorter exemption period or limiting the bill to self-attestation companies; the division said it would need more information and that annual filings and approval requirements would still provide oversight. The committee also heard SP 212, which would require at least two Real Estate Commission members to be licensed engineers or architects; testimony included support and a concern about conflicts of interest among people who serve in multiple roles in the condominium and real estate sectors. No votes or final actions were taken in the portion provided, and the chair moved from one measure to the next after testimony and questions.

Transcript Highlights:

• Reducing them shift costs onto local taxpayers. who will have to cover the funding gap or face reduced
• You know, I think it would help if we reduce... reduce some of these fees and it helps for us to reinvest
• So, I'm in favor of... reducing a duplicative regulation.
• Senate Bill 1202 essentially strengthens the grid by enhancing resilience, by reducing- reducing strain
• costs. reducing the burden on local jurisdictions.

Bills: SB264 , SB542 , SB924 , SB1008 , SB1029 , SB1036 , SB1057 , SB1058 , SB1185 , SB1202 , SB1358 , SB1364 , SB1376 , SB1569 , SB1664 , SB1697 , SJR50

Committee: Senate Business & Commerce

Transcript Highlights:

• It authorizes DOEA to ...eliminating duplicative reassessment.
• A genetic condition reduced to a racial stereotype. Science ignored and humanity dismissed.
• unnecessary duplicate reports.
• a necessary duplicate reports.
• Cutting down duplicative screenings.

Bills: S0006 , S0036 , S0560 , S0778 , S0844 , S0864 , S1002 , S1016 , S1022 , S1030 , S1630

Committee: Senate Appropriations Committee on Health and Human Services

Summary: The Appropriations Committee on Health and Human Services heard and advanced a series of health, child welfare, aging, disability, and public records bills. CS/SB 1002, on child welfare and parental substance abuse, was described as clarifying that acute or chronic parental drug abuse can constitute harm or neglect when it creates an ongoing risk to a child; it passed after limited questions and supportive testimony from Florida Smart Justice Alliance. CS/SB 1630, a broad aging and long-term care modernization bill, would streamline eligibility screenings, allow temporary DOEA services during emergencies or lead agency failures, tighten oversight of area agencies on aging, permanently establish the Florida Alzheimer’s Care Center of Excellence, and expand guardianship training and enforcement tools; it drew support from AARP, area agencies, and the Alzheimer’s Association and was reported favorably. The committee also approved SB 1022 to add Bay County and Pompano to the Florida Children’s Initiatives, and CS/SB 1030, via strike-all amendment, to streamline regulation of substance abuse and behavioral health providers and clarify background screening and privacy rules. Several bills focused on health care practice and patient access. CS/SB 36, with an amendment, allows nurses with doctoral degrees to use appropriate titles while requiring clear identification as nurses and making misuse grounds for discipline; nursing organizations supported it and it passed. CS/SB 844 requires physicians and nurses to complete a one-time, board-approved continuing education course on sickle cell disease care management, with multiple patients and advocates testifying about delayed care, bias, and the need for better provider education; the bill was reported favorably after an amendment aligning it with the House version. CS/SB 560 streamlines procedures for psychotropic medication for children in DCF custody by reducing duplicative reports, clarifying evaluator qualifications, limiting repeated background checks, and simplifying consent documentation; an amendment removed postsecondary education language, and the bill passed. The committee also approved a public records exemption bill for a uterine fibroids research database (CS/SB 864). The committee also advanced measures affecting disability services and forensic care. SB 6, a claims bill, would pay $3.8 million to a trust for a child who suffered severe abuse-related injuries after DCF involvement; it passed without opposition. SB 778 updates the definition of forensic clients so certain individuals with intellectual disabilities or autism found incompetent to proceed can be housed in the same secure forensic setting, reducing duplicative staffing and space needs; it was reported favorably. CS/SB 1016 codifies the Working People with Disabilities Program, allowing eligible developmentally disabled adults to work while retaining Medicaid waiver benefits and requiring notice to enrollees; advocates described the bill as essential to employment and independence, and it passed. Throughout the meeting, most bills received supportive public testimony, few questions, and unanimous or near-unanimous favorable votes.

Transcript Highlights:

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• </c> options to reduce suicides. options to reduce suicides.
• How could we eliminate duplication?
• How could we eliminate duplication?
• 00:53:56.880><c> in</c><00:53:57.040><c> the</c> reduce, you know, casualties in the reduce, you know

Transcript Highlights:

• It also improves public health by reducing our reliance on fossil fuels and therefore reducing harmful
• Given the high cost of electricity and our need to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, we should not be
• Deploying a range of advanced and clean energy resources is key to managing system costs and reducing
• It seems like the procurement piece... ...that indicates what is duplicative.
• It seems like the procurement piece, Sections 3 and 4, might be duplicated, for example.

Committee: Joint Joint Committee on Telecommunications, Utilities and Energy

Summary: The committee heard testimony on a wide range of energy bills, with much of the discussion focused on offshore wind, battery storage, solar, nuclear study proposals, and a bill to redefine clean energy. Several Barnstable-area legislators and witnesses raised concerns about offshore wind transmission infrastructure near neighborhoods, beaches, and drinking water supplies, and supported bills to create a special commission and increase local input and oversight. In contrast, environmental, consumer, labor, and clean energy groups strongly backed offshore wind expansion bills, arguing that offshore wind lowers long-term costs, improves winter reliability, reduces fossil fuel dependence, supports jobs and local supply chains, and should include wildlife protections, labor standards, and community benefits. Some witnesses and committee members noted that parts of the offshore wind legislation overlap with the Governor’s energy affordability bill, and asked for clarification on which provisions were new versus duplicative. The committee also heard testimony on battery storage and solar legislation. Two student witnesses and several industry representatives supported a bill to study grid battery storage, saying storage can reduce outages, lower peak prices, and improve grid resilience during extreme weather. Witnesses from solar and storage companies supported a broader clean energy transition bill that would expand storage procurement, create a retail-style storage program for distributed batteries, set a 10-gigawatt solar target by 2035, and streamline siting and interconnection. Committee members pressed witnesses on whether these provisions were already included in the Governor’s affordability bill and asked for a section-by-section breakdown of what was new. One witness also urged allowing developers to bond interconnection payments to reduce financing costs. Another major topic was a bill defining clean energy, especially whether existing pumped-storage hydropower should qualify for subsidies or be excluded. Supporters of the bill argued that existing pumped storage should not receive additional ratepayer subsidies because it is already built, can have environmental impacts on rivers and ecosystems, and could cost ratepayers hundreds of millions of dollars. Opponents said pumped storage is an important reliability resource and should remain eligible. The committee also heard testimony on nuclear-energy study bills: some witnesses supported creating a commission to examine nuclear power as a reliable, carbon-free option, while others opposed nuclear study bills and argued that nuclear is costly, unsafe, and inconsistent with the state’s clean energy goals. No votes were taken during the hearing.

Transcript Highlights:

• On the May revise, that was reduced to $1.5 million.
• even reduce incremental costs to people.
• This is duplicative in nature with what you're doing.
• I see duplication. I see fragmentation and overlap.
• And it's designed to address the goal of reducing duplication, fragmentation, and overlap.

Committee: House Higher Education

Summary: The Assembly Higher Education Committee met in a special hearing on SB 638 by Senator Padilla, a workforce development bill aimed at creating a new coordinating entity, the Middle Class Pipeline Project, to streamline education and workforce programs and improve career pathways, especially in high-unemployment and low-income regions. The author and supporters argued California’s current workforce system is too siloed and disjointed, and that the bill would better align education, training, and employer needs while expanding access for underrepresented communities. Support testimony came from the Association of Independent California Colleges and Universities, the California EDGE Coalition, National University, Long Beach City College, and United Ways of California, all backing the idea of stronger statewide coordination and data-driven planning. Committee members raised significant concerns about the scope of the proposed entity, its overlap with existing bodies such as the California Workforce Development Board and other education agencies, and whether $1.5 million would be enough to staff and operate it. Several members questioned whether the bill was duplicative, too broad, or should be delayed for a more deliberative process or audit. Senator Padilla responded that the bill was intended to keep an operational coordinating entity on the table for tri-party negotiations with legislative leadership and the Governor, and that the final structure and priorities were still to be worked out. After discussion, the committee voted to pass SB 638 to the Assembly Appropriations Committee. The roll call showed five ayes, with DeMaio and Tangipa voting no and Celeste Rodriguez not voting at that time. The chair later noted the record would remain open for additional members to add on, and the meeting adjourned after a courtesy vote and closing remarks.

Transcript Highlights:

• duplicative reporting...
• The state receives the transparency it needs, while reducing duplicative reporting across initiatives
• The solution has to include reducing duplication and improving coherence across the broader system.
• The solution has to include reducing duplication and improving coherence across the broader system.
• ...the efficient actions, right, the kind of low-hanging fruit of reducing duplication, of identifying

Summary: The joint hearing focused on coherence in California’s education planning and reporting systems, especially the Local Control and Accountability Plan (LCAP) and related grant plans. Committee chairs and members described widespread frustration with duplicative, lengthy, and sometimes conflicting reporting requirements, while emphasizing that the goal was not to reduce accountability but to make planning more useful, stable, and student-centered. State Superintendent Tony Thurmond also previewed the Governor’s education budget priorities, including expanded learning, community schools, universal transitional kindergarten, literacy supports, and concerns about the proposed Prop. 98 deferral. Panelists from the State Board of Education, Fresno County Superintendent of Schools, and the Legislative Analyst’s Office said the LCAP was intended to balance local flexibility with statewide transparency, but has become overloaded by repeated revisions and additional requirements. They argued for fewer core reporting elements, more stability over time, better alignment of planning cycles, and integrated systems that reduce duplication. Fresno County staff described a multi-year calendar and support tools that help districts manage timelines, but said these tools only ease the burden rather than solve the underlying problem. The LAO noted that some newer plans, such as expanded learning and transportation plans, are narrative-heavy and often less informative than separate reporting requirements. Local district leaders and county officials described the practical effects of the current system: staff time diverted from instruction, multiple portals and forms, audit risk aversion, and planning documents that can exceed 100 pages. Several superintendents said coherent systems work best when districts have clear priorities, stable governance, and aligned budgets, and when state requirements are predictable and tied to outcomes like literacy, attendance, and student achievement. The California Federation of Teachers added that coherence also depends on meaningful collaboration with educators, classified staff, parents, and communities. Committee members repeatedly asked whether the state should streamline reporting, create a uniform portal, or develop a more unified grant-reporting structure, and Thurmond said the department was piloting a simplified common form and was willing to work with the Legislature and districts on broader solutions.

Transcript Highlights:

• My guess is they were trying to reduce the amount of duplication by using five digits versus four, give
• “Reduce the amount of duplication by using five digits versus four, give you a greater level of precision
• So I think they're trying to reduce costs, reduce the labor of deduplicating the transactions, meaning
• And they've agreed that the best way to reduce duplicates and reduce manual processing is to have an
• We believe that will reduce risk and reduce costs and also increase speed.

Summary: The Senate Budget Subcommittee heard several Caltrans, CHP, and DMV budget and trailer bill items. On Caltrans fleet replacement, the department requested a one-time $225 million augmentation to replace aging medium- and heavy-duty vehicles and expand zero-emission vehicle infrastructure. LAO said the request was consistent with state policy, but senators criticized the high cost of electric fleet purchases and Caltrans’ delayed zero-emission fleet report; the chair said the report must be delivered within 30 days before the request could be fully considered. Caltrans also presented trailer bill language to replace an originally intended $50 million federal transfer for the High Road Construction Careers Program with $30 million in state Highway Account funds after federal eligibility problems prevented use of the federal dollars. Members questioned the reduction, the delay in implementation, where the remaining funds would go, and whether the program would keep jobs in California and meet labor standards; Caltrans and the Workforce Development Board said the program had prior success and that the state-funds transfer was intended to preserve the original policy goal. The committee then reviewed CHP’s request for a $60 million augmentation for equipment and operating costs, which CHP said was needed because vacancy savings no longer covered rising fuel, vehicle, and other operating costs. CHP argued that recruitment success had reduced vacancies and that costs had risen sharply since 2006, while LAO recommended rejection, citing that the expenses were ongoing, CHP still had vacancies above pre-pandemic levels, and the Motor Vehicle Account faces structural insolvency by 2028-29. Members discussed whether the account can sustain these costs and whether the Legislature should consider broader funding changes. CHP also sought a permanent $885,000 augmentation for seven analyst positions for the Highway Violence Task Force; CHP said freeway shootings had fallen sharply since 2021 and that analysts were essential to solving cases, while LAO noted the request was smaller than prior years but would create an ongoing commitment. Senators generally supported the task force but asked for clearer metrics and reporting, especially because the data categories had changed over time. Finally, the DMV presented the State-to-State verification system and related modernization work under DXP. DMV said State-to-State is required for Real ID compliance and that California must join the system by February 2027, with live testing planned for the summer. Senators focused heavily on privacy and data security, especially the inclusion of Social Security number digits in the system, the role of the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators, and whether Californians understood their information would be shared in a nationwide database. DMV said the system only shares federally required data, uses encryption, and is designed to de-duplicate records across states, but members pressed for more information on governance, audit authority, and whether the Legislature had explicitly approved the data-sharing approach. The chair asked DMV to follow up with the Attorney General and indicated the committee would continue reviewing the issue.

Transcript Highlights:

• duplication, and new equity and reporting expectations.
• duplicative reporting.
• The solution has to include reducing duplication and improving coherence across the broader system.
• The solution has to include reducing duplication and improving coherence across the broader system.
• The kind of low-hanging fruit of reducing duplication, of identifying places where you can streamline

Transcript Highlights:

• My guess is they were trying to reduce the amount of duplication by using five digits versus four, giving
• My guess is they were trying to reduce the amount of duplication by using five digits versus four, giving
• So I think they're trying to reduce costs, reduce the labor of deduplicating the transactions, meaning
• And they've agreed that the best way to reduce duplicates and reduce manual processing is to have an
• We believe that will reduce risk and reduce costs and also increase speed.

Summary: The subcommittee heard several California transportation and public safety budget proposals. Caltrans requested a one-time $225 million augmentation to continue replacing its aging fleet and build out zero-emission vehicle infrastructure. Caltrans said the funding would replace about 1,100 vehicles, including many heavy-duty units, and acknowledged its overdue report on zero-emission fleet efforts would be delivered by mid-to-late April. The LAO said the request raised no concerns, but one senator strongly criticized the cost and policy emphasis on making the fleet the “greenest” rather than prioritizing road maintenance. The chair pressed Caltrans to submit the overdue report within 30 days, saying it was necessary for oversight before the request could be considered. The committee also discussed a Caltrans proposal tied to SB 150 and the High Road Construction Careers Program. Because federal highway funds could not be used as originally intended for workforce training, Caltrans and the Department of Finance proposed replacing the federal dollars with $30 million in state Highway Account funds. The Workforce Development Board said the program had a track record of connecting participants to apprenticeships and jobs, while one senator questioned why the original $50 million federal set-aside had not been implemented and asked for more detail on where the remaining funds would go. Finance said the state funds were already set aside and expected to begin flowing in May over a two- to three-year period. The California Highway Patrol presented two requests. First, CHP sought $60 million from the Motor Vehicle Account for equipment and operating costs, citing inflation, higher vehicle prices, and the end of its ability to cover costs through vacancy savings as hiring improved. The LAO recommended rejection, arguing the costs were not new, CHP still had a substantial equipment budget, and the Motor Vehicle Account faces insolvency by 2028-29. Second, CHP requested $885,000 ongoing to fund seven crime analyst positions for the Highway Violence Task Force. CHP said the task force had reduced freeway shootings from 477 in 2021 to 179 last year, though some data categories had changed over time. The LAO did not object, but noted the request would create a permanent funding commitment. The DMV presented two modernization items: the State-to-State verification system required for Real ID compliance and the DXP system to replace aging legacy technology. The LAO raised no concerns with either, but noted DXP has had cost overruns and delays and will require continued legislative oversight. Senators focused heavily on privacy and data-sharing concerns in the State-to-State system, especially the use of Social Security number digits and the role of the AAMVA network. DMV said the system is required for Real ID compliance, uses encrypted data, and is intended to prevent duplicate credentials across states. The committee also discussed customer service improvements from DXP, with DMV saying the project should better integrate systems and improve service delivery by the end of the calendar year.

Transcript Highlights:

• My guess is they were trying to reduce the amount of duplication by using five digits versus four, to
• My guess is they were trying to reduce the amount of duplication by using five digits versus four, giving
• So I think they're trying to reduce costs, reduce the labor of deduplicating the transactions, meaning
• And they've agreed that the best way to reduce duplicates and reduce manual processing is to have an
• We believe that will reduce risk and reduce costs, and also increase speed.

Transcript Highlights:

• This bill really just endeavors in follow-up to that original legislation to try to reduce duplication
• Once met, don't have to be duplicated at the LCB.
• duplication, enhancing government efficiency, and making sure that our industry has the necessary tools
• goal, there might be some of that shared by folks, and again the purpose of this bill is to try to reduce
• As part of that process, ETS offered a voluntary separation program to reduce staff.

Bills: HB1347 , HB2091 , HB2264

Committee: Senate Labor & Commerce

Keywords: education, funding, student loans, affordability, higher education, public employers, employee information, bargaining representatives, labor relations, union representation, unemployment insurance, benefits, employment, layoffs, workforce reduction

Transcript Highlights:

• We're reducing that rate in the country. We're reducing that rate in the country.
• And so, but now reduce the tax, right? And so, but now reduce the tax, right?
• But if if anybody's not reducing their taxes because of the reducing their taxes because of the reducing
• There's been a duplications. There's been a duplications.
• They making a duplicate key. Correct. They making a duplicate key. Correct.

Transcript Highlights:

• On page 437, Rule 100.02 was deleted as duplicative of statute.
• On page 437, Rule 100.02, it was deleted as duplicative of statute.
• The board has also reduced the number of board meetings from quarterly to biannually.
• It is duplicative of a statute.
• And so wherever we can, we try to reduce the redundancy. Okay. Thank you.

Committee: House Health and Welfare