Video & Transcript Research : 'collections'
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AL
Transcript Highlights:
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- collections in government records collections in government records collections acquire 135 special
- collections acquired 135 special collections acquired 92 artifact collections acquired the overall the
- okay now collection ass collection okay now collection ass sessioned sessioned in sessioned sessioned
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Keywords:
teacher compensation, education funding, public school educators, teacher retention, teacher designation, lottery, gambling, internet gaming, mobile application, criminal offenses, aquifer, water management, Edwards Aquifer, sustainability, regulatory framework, SB 565, Texas Water Code, TCEQ, Texas Commission on Environmental Quality, compliance agreement
HI
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Summary:
The Senate Committee on Labor and Technology heard testimony on several measures relating to public employment, the Hawaii Employer-Union Health Benefits Trust Fund (EUTF), retirement benefits, and cafeteria plans. HB 2472 and HB 2276, both concerning EUTF staff and investment office staff salaries, drew support from the trust fund and labor groups, and no opposition was heard in person. HB 2272 and HB 2273, emergency appropriations for public employment cost items, were supported by the administration and labor representatives; members briefly clarified which bargaining units were covered.
A longer discussion centered on HB 1664, which would address a dispute mechanism for EUTF-related negotiations. HGEA said the current process lacks a dispute resolution path and that the bill would allow interest arbitration when the state and union disagree. The Department of Human Resources Development and the Budget and Finance director raised concerns about consistency across bargaining units and the role of an arbitrator unfamiliar with the complexities of the system. Senator Moriwaki questioned whether another dispute forum might be more appropriate, but no alternative resolution was settled.
The committee also heard HB 1655, which would make retirement benefits negotiable, and HB 1658, concerning collective bargaining repricing. ERS opposed HB 1655, saying it could create administrative and tax problems if retirement benefits were negotiated separately across many bargaining units, while UPW, HGEA, HSTA, and UPA supported it as a bargaining issue. On HB 1658, DHRD explained that repricing is an internal classification tool meant to preserve equal pay for equal work, not to address market pay, and said a single arbitrator or the Merit Appeals Board could handle disputes; HGEA preferred a neutral arbitrator and opposed the Merit Appeals Board as too employer-controlled. The final measure, HB 1661 on cafeteria plans, was supported by UPW and HGEA. DHRD said it planned to raise the maximum contribution through rulemaking but needed to manage plan solvency and timing because IRS limits change on a calendar-year basis while the state plan runs on a fiscal year. The committee then moved into decision-making and adopted recommendations to pass HB 2472 and HB 2276 as amended/unamended after a brief correction to the vote language.
AL
Alabama 2025 Regular Session
Alabama Senate County and Municipal Government Committee Apr 8th, 2025
County and Municipal Government
Transcript Highlights:
- And so the the amendment was collected. And so the the amendment was collected.
- As you know, the tax is collected. As you know, the tax is collected.
- it's collected.
- I don't I that is that's collected in. I don't I that is that's collected in.
- Senator Chandles, collected. Senator Chandles, collected.
Keywords:
primary election, election calendar, off-presidential year, May primary, second Tuesday in May, fourth Tuesday in May, runoff primary, special primary, presidential primary, election administration, candidate filing, ballot access, political parties, county election officials, state election law, Alabama elections, sheriffs, term of office, Alabama law, local government
MN
Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session
Committee on Judiciary and Public Safety - Part 1 - 04/17/26
Judiciary and Public Safety
Transcript Highlights:
- um and resulted in collections. um and resulted in collections.
- To me, the collections argument, the percentage of collections that are being fun... So what?
- To me, the collections argument, the percentage of collections that are being fun... So what?
- To me, the collections argument, the percentage of collections that are being fun... So what?
- collection requirements. collection requirements.
FL
Florida 2025 Regular Session
October 8, 2025 - 01:00 PM
Transcript Highlights:
- Because we all care collectively about the final impact to the citizen.
- And so, Collectively about the final impact to the citizen.
- And it showed that there's 203 cities in 2024 that collected impact fee revenue.
- Also, the fact is that there's other taxes that cannot be collected with this.
- Cruz mentioned that half of the cities thereabouts are not collecting impact fees.
Summary:
The Intergovernmental Affairs Subcommittee met for its first meeting of the 2026 session and took up impact fees, with an opening overview from Eric Poole of the Florida Association of Counties. Poole explained that impact fees are one-time charges on new development used only for new infrastructure capacity, not existing deficiencies or maintenance, and must satisfy the dual rational nexus test. He traced their history in Florida and described how comprehensive plans, concurrency, and later mobility fees relate to local infrastructure funding. He argued that impact fees are restricted, tied to capital improvements, and are one tool for paying for growth.
Panelists representing counties, cities, builders, and community developers largely agreed that growth creates real infrastructure costs but differed on how those costs should be allocated. County and city representatives said impact fees are a necessary, targeted way to fund roads, water, sewer, fire, schools, and parks without spreading costs across all taxpayers. They pointed to long periods without fee updates, rising construction costs, and examples of large increases justified by studies. Builder and developer representatives argued that fees are often unpredictable, can be doubled or tripled, and contribute to housing affordability problems; they also said the system can be inconsistent across jurisdictions and may encourage sprawl. Several witnesses emphasized that fees must be transparent, proportional, and tied to actual benefits, and some suggested a statewide framework or mobility-fee model with more consistency and peer review.
Members asked about how long local governments can hold fee revenue, whether fees can generate profit, what they can be spent on, and whether they can pay for police stations, fire stations, or other public safety facilities. Witnesses said the funds must be used for capital projects and cannot be used for salaries or unrelated purchases, and that refunds may be required if money is not spent within the local ordinance’s timeframe. The discussion also covered examples of local fee increases, the use of impact fees versus direct construction or “pipelining” of infrastructure, and concerns about level-of-service changes and extraordinary-circumstance increases. No votes were taken; the meeting ended after the panel discussion and member questions, with the chair noting the conversation would continue.
MN
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is - At Fairview Riverside, I have seen what collective action can do.
- Uh and and when collectively together.
NH
Transcript Highlights:
- That was after the evidence collection kits had been delivered to the State Crime Lab and collected from
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kits we took in the evidence collection kits we took in the evidence collection
MN
Transcript Highlights:
- collections for all motans. collections for all motans.
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Additionally, collections available. Additionally, collections available. - build their own collections.
- build their own collections.
- library collections. library collections. Thank<01:04:07.839>
you. Thank you.
VT
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is certify that information they collect is certify that information they collect - They're collecting data on us all the time.
- They're collecting and selling and making money on our information.
- They're collecting and selling and making money on our information.
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and bill and with data collection and bill and with data collection and created
MN
Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session
Senate and House Tax Policies Discussion Group - 05/06/26
Minnesota Senate Floor Meeting
Transcript Highlights:
- And of course, that will terminate after enough is collected or 20 years max.
- collected or 20 years max. collected or 20 years max.
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of And that would be up to a collections of And that would be up to a collections - . collected. collected.
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KY
Kentucky 2026 Regular Session
Legislative Oversight & Investigations Committee (1-15-26) - Upon Adjournment
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system first electronic toll collection system first electronic toll collection - our collection rate low?
- Uh, they've had a collection agency call them and try to collect the debt, and they still haven't paid
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Call to Order and Roll Call- 00:00:00
Approve Minutes from November 13, 2025- 00:00:55
RiverLink Tolling Operations for Louisville Bridges-Quarterhill Testimony- 00:01:48
Staff Report on Veterans’ Centers- 00:26:45
Kentucky Department of Veterans Affairs Response to Staff Report- 0:58:53
Adjournment- 1:18:00, 958, all
Summary:
The committee first approved the minutes from the November 13, 2025 meeting and then heard testimony from Quarter Hill, the tolling subcontractor for RiverLink on the Indiana-Kentucky bridge system. Quarter Hill described its role in back-office support and call center operations for the Lincoln, Kennedy, and Lewis and Clark bridges, and said the contract began in 2021 with go-live in September 2023. The company reported that revenue has increased since it took over, customer service response times have improved, and it has been operating at a loss because the contract was based on outdated transaction estimates and did not account for higher-than-expected volume and added support costs.
Members questioned Quarter Hill about the role of consultants, the low reported collection rate, and why the company was leaving the contract. Quarter Hill said a single large consulting engineering firm had been hired to help shape the RFP and contract, but argued that consultants and overly detailed requirements can create disputes and hinder efficient service. On collection rates, the company said the reported 85% rate reflects the absence of registration holds and other enforcement tools, and that the remaining unpaid tolls are the hardest to collect. The company also said it had lost significant money on the contract and had reached a change order and termination agreement, while emphasizing that the system itself was functioning well.
The committee then received a staff report on Kentucky veterans centers. Staff said quality of care is generally high and staffing has improved, but reported occupancy figures are misleading because they are based on certified beds rather than functional capacity after conversions to single-occupancy rooms and capital projects. The report said actual occupancy is closer to 85% than the commonly reported 56%, and that increasing occupancy would not necessarily increase revenue because the state’s cost of care exceeds reimbursement and private-pay revenue. Recommendations included adopting functional occupancy reporting, continuing the move to single-occupancy rooms, reviewing modernization needs at Thompson Hood, including Eastern Kentucky in planning, and referring the Radcliffe HVAC procurement and installation to the Auditor of Public Accounts and Attorney General for review.
CA
California 2025-2026 Regular Session
Assembly Budget Subcommittee No. 5 on State Administration May 21st, 2025
Transcript Highlights:
- Collecting about $15 million a year annually.
- This doesn't eliminate collective bargaining, but it seems to usurp collective bargaining, the spirit
- of collective bargaining.
- This doesn't eliminate collective bargaining, but it seems to usurp collective bargaining, the spirit
- of collective bargaining here in California.
Summary:
The subcommittee heard an informational update on the state’s generative AI implementation and related oversight. Administration officials said several proof-of-concept projects have moved into minimum viable product phases, including work at CDTFA and Caltrans, and that CDPH has a May Revision request for up to $8 million to scale up its healthcare facilities inspections project. The Legislative Analyst’s Office urged the administration to publish a report on lessons learned from each POC and recommended limiting the new generative AI approval process to a pilot through the first two rounds of projects, with continued monthly meetings and stronger legislative oversight. Members pressed for more transparency and questioned why the CDPH request was not included in January; the administration said the cost estimate was not available then and that only one project is seeking additional resources beyond existing departmental budgets.
The committee then reviewed a proposed $400 million loan from the Labor and Workforce Development Fund to the General Fund. Finance and the Labor Agency said the fund has grown because civil penalty revenues have risen sharply, and the loan would be repaid in 2029-30 with provisional language allowing earlier repayment if needed. The LAO agreed the fund could support the loan but warned that recent PAGA reforms may reduce future revenues. Public commenters, including labor and community groups, argued the money should instead support labor-law enforcement and outreach programs such as CWOP, and urged rejection of the loan.
Members also heard a Department of Industrial Relations request for $19.1 million for phase two of Public Works Information Technology System Enhancements, which officials said will support labor-law enforcement and apprenticeship registration. The department said the project was delayed because a prior procurement did not result in a contract award and that completion is now expected in October 2026. The committee then took up an EDD Next reappropriation technical adjustment to extend UI fund spending authority through June 30, 2026; the LAO said the request was fine but again raised concerns about oversight of the larger modernization effort, which EDD said now totals more than $660 million and is expected to continue through 2029.
Finally, the committee discussed DGS’s request for new parking facilities near the May Lee Building and a trailer bill shifting statewide telework policy language from DGS to CalHR while also expanding NDI eligibility for certain CEA employees. The LAO said the telework trailer bill should likely go through the policy committee process instead of budget, and union and employee witnesses strongly opposed it, arguing it would undermine bargaining rights and could be used to narrow telework. In a separate item on the governor’s return-to-office order, administration officials said departments are being directed to move to a four-day in-office expectation starting July 1, 2025, but they had no statewide cost estimate yet because departments are still assessing vacancies, exemptions, and space needs. Members criticized the lack of analysis and said the state should have clearer numbers before moving forward.
MN
Transcript Highlights:
- Um bias collection of consumer data.
- one likes having their data collected. one likes having their data collected.
- on whom uh data is collected. on whom uh data is collected. Senator<01:00:16.160>
Miller. - collected or will need to be collected collected or will need to be collected to<01:00:33.680>
- Um so I'm just wondering, do collected.
MS
Transcript Highlights:
- And I don't want to take too long, but I want to take a few minutes and collectively thank you all for
- Collect data regarding the performance and operation of public safety answering points and coordinate
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thank few minutes um and collectively thank few minutes um and collectively - <00:05:20.320>
Collect <00:05:20.639>data count, give or take a few. - Collect data count, give or take a few.
Summary:
The committee first considered the reappointment of Thomas Allen Wicker to the IT Board. Members praised his long service, industry knowledge, and the importance of the state’s information technology operations. After a brief question about his past as editor of the Daily Mississippian, the committee voted to advise and consent, and the nomination was reported out.
The bulk of the meeting was devoted to confirming the initial members of the new Mississippi Emergency Communications Authority board created under the next generation 911 law. The chair reviewed the board’s duties under Section 6 of the act, including budgeting, grant administration, setting and revising technology standards, improving interoperability and consolidation of 911 systems, recommending standards for public safety answering points, collecting performance data, coordinating technical assistance, addressing GIS mapping and standards, and developing a CMRS grant program for NG 911 implementation. The chair and Senator Deleno emphasized that the board will be responsible for statewide planning, sustainable funding, and helping local governments understand the costs and benefits of NG 911 and shared GIS infrastructure.
The committee then heard brief statements from the nominees, who described backgrounds in emergency communications, law enforcement, GIS, EMS, county administration, and local government. Nominees included Danna Diaz, Chief Chad Norman Dorne, Eric Hollingsworth, Paul Sheffield, Scott Trapalino, Terresa Windham, Paul Mosley, Matt Haley, Brian Roberts, W. Willis Willard Johnson, Beatatric Prior, and Sheri Hoampamp. One nominee, Paul Sheffield, had a self-reported bankruptcy from 2002 that had been resolved in 2004, but the committee still moved forward. Each nominee was asked if there were questions, and the committee repeatedly voted to advise and consent, with no opposition recorded.
Senator Deleno closed by stressing that the board’s work is critical to the future of first responders in Mississippi, especially the development of a statewide GIS standard and a grant framework for using NG 911 funds responsibly. He said the legislature wanted to avoid piecemeal purchases and instead ensure accountability, efficiency, and a sustainable funding source. The chair thanked the nominees and Senator Deleno, and the meeting concluded after the confirmations were completed.
FL
Florida 2026 5th Special Session
Commerce and Tourism Feb 4th, 2026
Transcript Highlights:
- So they're going to over-collect. ...be certain of the person's age.
- The FAA has made it very clear: airports can collect landing fees.
- This bill doesn't ban those fees; it just cripples how they're collected.
- This bill doesn't ban those fees, it just cripples how they're collected.
- It's not for collection of data. And that is a misnomer.
Summary:
The committee first took up SB 1236, which would condition state economic development incentives on employers at subsidized companies using secret-ballot union elections and prohibiting neutrality agreements. The sponsor said the bill is meant to protect workers and taxpayer dollars, and he noted he would amend the Attorney General enforcement language to allow appeals. Supporters argued it protects secret ballots and transparency, while opponents said it is a form of union-busting, could conflict with federal labor law, and would burden contractors and workers. After debate, the committee reported the bill favorably on a roll call vote, with Senators Bracey Davis, Smith, and Errington voting no and the remaining recorded votes in favor.
The committee then heard CS/SB 198, which regulates cryptocurrency kiosks to combat fraud, especially against seniors. The bill requires kiosk registration, fraud warnings, blockchain analytics, transaction limits, receipts, and refund protections for certain first-time transactions involving non-U.S. wallets. Supporters from consumer and senior advocacy groups said the bill would help stop widespread scams, while one industry witness praised the bill’s fraud protections but suggested narrowing the daily limits and new-customer period. The committee reported the bill favorably by roll call vote.
Next, the committee considered CS/SB 1356 on dog breeding, pet sales, and breeder registration. The sponsor described it as a work in progress aimed at ending inhumane breeding conditions, improving consumer disclosures, and creating breeder standards and penalties; an amendment removed state oversight of local animal shelters. Pet store representatives supported many animal welfare provisions but objected to the three-day financing waiting period, shelter-space requirements, expanded reimbursement, and litigation exposure. Animal welfare supporters backed the bill, and the committee reported it favorably.
The committee also heard SB 1722 on app stores and minors’ access to apps. The bill requires age verification, parental consent for minors, notice of app changes, and enforcement by the Department of Legal Affairs. Supporters said it would better protect children online and help enforce existing age-based restrictions, while opponents warned it could require overcollection of personal data, create privacy and constitutional problems, and duplicate tools parents already have. After debate, the committee reported the bill favorably. Finally, the committee took up CS/SB 422, which would bar use of ADS-B aviation data to calculate or collect certain airport fees, with an amendment adding departures to the covered activities. A pilot supported the bill as a safety and privacy measure, while airport advocates opposed it, saying it would undermine airport finances and force less efficient fee collection methods. The transcript ends during testimony on this bill, before final action is shown.
MN
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because of public library collections because of public library collections - . collections. collections.
- of that collection is over 21 million. of that collection is over 21 million.
- But the markup is collections.
- When I came in, I was like, we're not collecting the kind of funds we need to collect.
HI
Transcript Highlights:
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bargaining the office of collective bargaining the office of collective bargaining - Uh the office of collective chair.
- the bill states, unless the collective the bill states, unless the collective bargaining<01:02:54.240
- of collective bargaining in opposition.
- We'll relating to collective bargaining.
Bills:
SB2543, SB2014, SB2115, SB3095, SB3264, SB2114, SB2117, SB2246, SB2519, SB3055, SB3131, SB3144
Keywords:
state construction, construction manager, design review, public works, capital improvement, DAGS, Department of Accounting and General Services, DOE, Department of Education, comptroller, pilot program, design review special fund, county permit review, accessibility compliance, Disability and Communication Access Board, state infrastructure, government construction, project oversight, civil service exemption, county agencies
HI
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- and exclusion from collective and exclusion from collective bargaining.<00:20:25.039>
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bargaining exempting of the collective bargaining exempting of the collective - If not, members' questions. administering collectively bargained administering collectively bargained
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Summary:
The joint hearing of the Senate Committees on Labor and Technology and Public Safety and Military Affairs considered three bills. SB 2141 would reclassify certain Department of Law Enforcement leadership and employees as Class A members for retirement purposes and adjust retirement benefit calculations. DLE supported the bill, saying it would address retirement classification without enhancing benefits, while the Employees’ Retirement System said it had no formal board position but wanted key provisions preserved. The Deputy Attorney General raised a potential title/subject issue and warned the bill could be vulnerable to challenge because the reclassification, contribution changes, and benefit calculations are in separate statutory sections. After questions about the number of affected employees and possible amendments, the committees deferred the bill.
SB 2593 would exempt certain Law Enforcement Standards Board positions from civil service and collective bargaining. The board’s administrator said the positions would handle sensitive and confidential information and require specialized experience, and the board chair’s representative said the bill was important to meet certification deadlines. Opposition testimony from HGA argued exempt employees are at-will and suggested civil service protections should remain, with any staffing issues handled through reclassification or other personnel tools. Committee members questioned whether the positions could instead be civil service but excluded from bargaining, and staff explained the distinction between civil service exemption and collective bargaining exclusion. The committees ultimately recommended passing SB 2593 with amendments, including a deferred effective date of January 1, 2077, and the recommendation was adopted.
SB 2824 would create a bribery-related reporting duty for public servants. Supporters, including Indivisible Hawaii, said it would establish a clear duty to report known or suspected bribery and strengthen public trust. The Office of the Public Defender opposed the bill, saying it would criminalize an affirmative duty to report another person’s misconduct. After limited discussion, both committees voted to pass SB 2824 with amendments, including a deferred effective date of July 1, 2050, and the recommendation was adopted. The meeting then adjourned.
OK
Oklahoma 2026 Regular Session
Appropriations and Budget Education Subcommittee Jan 21st, 2026 at 09:00 am
A&B Education Subcommittee
Transcript Highlights:
- All people, equipment and collections have been moved out.
- This investment will get us closer to 50% of the current collection being digitized.
- But can you go into what librarians are doing when they're curating a collection.
- that policy to build out their collection.
- The collection development policy will include language Such as, it is very important for library collections
NH
New Hampshire 2025 Regular Session
House Finance Division I (02/26/2025)
Transcript Highlights:
- the State of New Hampshire collecting the State of New Hampshire collecting the<03:19:38.080>
- in every division except collections in every division except collections because<03:45:37.239><
- you on page 12 this is the collection you on page 12 this is the collection Division<03:48:45.600
- So welcome, Secretary Scanlan, and we are going to be..." collected by the counties um the meals collected
- depending how many fees are collected depending how many fees are collected depends<04:39:04.799
Summary:
The meeting began with testimony from Charlotte Harding of the Conservation Land Stewardship Program, who explained that the office protects the state’s interests in conservation lands by monitoring conservation easements and related stewardship obligations. She described the program’s funding sources: a land conservation endowment held at the State Treasury and administered by the Council on Resources and Development, plus transfers from Fish and Game for easements not covered by the endowment. Members discussed how the endowment is funded when new easements are created, the program’s staffing, the loss of a state vehicle, and the need to increase in-state travel so staff can use personal vehicles for field monitoring. Harding said the office has two full-time positions and a seasonal employee, that the work is mostly monitoring rather than hands-on land management, and that enforcement issues are referred to the grantee agencies or, if needed, to the Council on Resources and Development. She also noted that the office works directly with landowners to resolve smaller issues and that stewardship has become a greater focus in the conservation community because ongoing oversight requires funding. Members asked about examples of properties under the program, including LCIP lands such as Musquash Headwaters, Hidden Valley Boy Scout Camp, and Nash Stream, and the committee did not take a motion before moving on.
The committee then heard from Paul Breen and Susie Anzelone of the Pease Development Authority regarding the Division of Ports and Harbors operating budget. They explained that the authority provides finance, legal, environmental, and engineering support to the division, which operates New Hampshire’s only deep-water berth at Market Street, as well as facilities in Hampton, Rye, the Portsmouth Fish Pier, and navigational waters in the Piscataqua and Great Bay. They described the authority’s history after the closure of Pease Air Force Base, the transfer of roughly 2,400 acres, and the creation of a self-sustaining enterprise fund tied to airport and port operations. They emphasized that the division does not draw on the general fund because revenues from wharfage, dockage, parking, registration, and mooring fees cover operating costs, with any surplus retained for capital improvements and replacement.
Members questioned several budget lines, including a sharp increase in overtime and workers’ compensation. Breen said overtime is driven largely by security needs at the deep-water port and fluctuates with vessel traffic, such as salt shipments, while workers’ comp is a DAS-set cost and not something the division controls. He said the budget is conservative and that if revenues fall short, capital projects would be the first items scaled back. The discussion also covered fee-setting, with Breen saying rates are reviewed against the local market and infrastructure constraints, and that some smaller facility fees had recently been increased after being stagnant for years.