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CA

California 2025-2026 Regular Session

Assembly Agriculture Committee Jun 17th, 2026

Agriculture

Transcript Highlights:
  • we will not permit conduct that disrupts, disturbs, or otherwise impedes the orderly conduct of legislative
  • State auditors have accused officials at dozens of other fairs of misspending millions in public funds
  • Look, again, it gets to the legislative intent of the code per se, right?
  • I do believe that it is a critical piece of legislation to ensure that we aren't seeing these types of
  • While with Machado, Victor was a district representative, a legislative aide, a special projects coordinator
Keywords: 988, house, all
MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

Committee on Elections - 01/30/25

Elections

Transcript Highlights:
  • are, that they provide public updates, so cities and counties will be required, as soon as county auditors
  • are, that they provide public updates, so cities and counties will be required as soon as county auditors
  • some thoughts about improved participation—the League of Minnesota Cities remains opposed to this legislation
  • The League of Minnesota Cities remains opposed to this legislation.
Keywords: 1187, senate, all
WY

Wyoming 2026 Regular Session

Select Committee on Gaming, May 14, 2026 - AM

Select Committee on Gaming

Transcript Highlights:
  • cannot sponsor legislation.
  • <00:53:20.480> that field agents and we have an auditor that field agents and we have an auditor
  • legislatively legislatively uh<01:09:39.679> over<01:09:39.920> the<01:09:40.159> years
  • be a fail safe if that said legislation be a fail safe if that said legislation failed.<01:26:15.440
  • Did they just pass that legislation? legislation? legislation?
Keywords: 916, all
AR

Arkansas 2026 1st Special Session

HOUSE CONVENES Apr 21st, 2026

Arkansas All Floor Meeting

Transcript Highlights:
  • I pray that this legislative body might be a place where they seek peace.
  • Members, this is the appropriation for the auditor of state's continuing education.
Keywords: 1204, all
MN
Transcript Highlights:
  • The Honorable Julie Blaha, State Auditor. And the Honorable Keith Ellison, Attorney General.
  • We encourage you to join us for live post-speech reaction from legislative leaders on the House website
FL
Transcript Highlights:
  • This amendment comes from language that Senator Polsky filed in legislation this year, which would define
  • This amendment comes from language that Senator Polsky filed in legislation this year, which would define
  • I think as... ...we continue through the legislative process and understanding where we're going to land
  • She said that, thanks to strong leadership, a focus on metrics, and continued legislative investments
  • and the Compliance Committee, and we're going through a process of replacing our chief executive auditor
Summary: The Appropriations Committee on Higher Education heard and approved two bills before moving into confirmation hearings for several university and college board nominees. CS/SB 1458 on apprenticeships and pre-apprenticeships was presented as a measure to improve consistency and transparency in local education agency partnerships, cap LEA administrative funding at 10% when applicable, and require public meetings and work papers for workforce funding model decisions. Support was noted from Associated Builders and Contractors, the Florida Chamber of Commerce, Foundations for Florida Futures, and Independent Electrical Contractors. The bill passed unanimously and was reported favorably. The committee then considered CS/CS/SB 1726 on higher education governance and presidential searches after adopting a delete-all amendment and a late-filed amendment defining the final group of presidential applicants as no fewer than three. The amended bill added provisions on trustee citizenship and residency/alumni eligibility, interim president succession planning, longer presidential contract renewals, limits on candidate polling by universities, syllabus posting, textbook/open-access material lists, and other governance and academic policy changes. Senators raised concerns about the minimum-three finalist requirement, interim president selection, trustee eligibility, and polling restrictions, while supporters said the bill would depoliticize leadership selection and improve transparency. The bill was reported favorably after the amendments were adopted. The committee then heard confirmation testimony from multiple appointees and reappointees, including nominees for FAMU, UNF, Pensacola State College, UWF, and UF. Most nominees emphasized ties to their institutions, student success, workforce development, military connections, and institutional growth. Several UWF nominees were questioned extensively about their votes for former chair Scott Yenner and his controversial comments about women and other groups; some said they were unaware of those remarks at the time of the vote and would not have supported him with that knowledge. Public testimony on UWF expressed concern about the nominees’ lack of higher education experience, their ties to the region, and the impact of Yenner’s views. The committee later voted to recommend a block of non-UWF nominees favorably, and it agreed to vote on the UWF nominees individually, with some remaining nominees deferred to a later hearing due to time.
HI
Transcript Highlights:
  • I am the affiliate legislative contact for the American College of Nurse-Midwives of Hawaii.
  • Should this legislation proceed, we are more than happy to work with our colleagues on changes.
  • Should this legislation proceed, we are more than happy to work with our colleagues on changes.
  • Should this legislation proceed, we are more than happy to work with our colleagues on changes.
  • Should this legislation proceed, we are more than happy to work with our colleagues on changes.
Keywords: 912, senate, all
Summary: The committee heard testimony on a large number of health-related measures, with the most extensive discussion on SB 2283, which would expand mail-order pharmacy access for prescription drugs. Supporters including HMSA, the Board of Pharmacy, and health plan groups said mail order could lower costs, improve adherence, and reduce hospitalizations, while independent pharmacies and rural neighbor-island providers warned it could harm local pharmacies, reduce access for patients who rely on face-to-face service, and create delivery and storage problems for medications. No vote was taken on SB 2283 during the excerpt, and the chair moved on after hearing testimony. The committee also heard SB 2855 on opioid antagonists, with the Insurance Division and HMSA noting that medically necessary opioid antagonists are already covered and suggesting the issue may be addressed through education or administrative fixes. Fentanyl and substance abuse groups supported the measure. SB 3045 on health insurance coverage for continuous glucose monitors drew broad support from diabetes and health organizations; HMSA said it had already expanded coverage for members on injectable insulin but raised concerns about supply constraints and said it had not yet seen an auditor study referenced in discussion. Members asked whether the bill would extend coverage beyond current policy. SB 2843 on domestic violence received support from the Public Defender’s Office, prosecutors, and victim-related organizations, who said the pilot program for misdemeanor domestic violence cases had reduced backlogs and improved court efficiency. A prosecutor also supported retaining coercive control as a petty misdemeanor tool in larger domestic violence cases. SB 2845 on healthcare facility access drew strong support from many health, legal, and advocacy groups, who said it would protect patients and staff from disruptive interference at healthcare facilities; one opponent argued it would chill lawful speech and protest and unfairly exempt labor demonstrations. The committee then heard SB 2854 and SB 3202, both healthcare-related measures, with testimony largely in support. SB 2854 drew comments from health and dental groups, and SB 3202 focused on workforce and licensing issues, including support for retired physicians volunteering, preceptor tax credits, and adding advanced midwifery and physician assistant-related provisions. The chair repeatedly enforced a one-minute testimony limit and moved through the agenda without recorded votes in the excerpt.
FL

Florida 2025 Regular Session

February 11, 2025 - 09:00 AM

Transcript Highlights:
  • Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, fiscal year 2025 through 2026 legislative budget
  • This year's legislative budget request totals an estimated $600 million and consists of, I don't know
  • In practice, the FDOC uses the legislative budget authority passed by the Legislature each year to develop
  • We will continue to have these conversations. ...and look into not only the legislative budget requests
  • We will continue to have these conversations and look into not only the legislative budget requests,
Summary: The Agriculture and Natural Resources Budget Subcommittee met to hear member-led presentations on agency budget requests after prior meetings with the agencies. Representative Barnaby summarized the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services’ fiscal year 2025-26 request, highlighting major funding for the Rural and Family Lands Protection Program, Florida Forest Service wildfire and land management needs, citrus disease and research efforts, a new Conner Complex facility and lab, agricultural water and BMP projects, agricultural law enforcement staffing and equipment, maintenance and vehicle needs, and federal grant-related spending. No vote was taken on the department’s request during the meeting. Representative Bartleman presented the Department of Environmental Protection request and said the subcommittee supported it fully. The request emphasized Everglades restoration, water quality grants, springs, harmful algal bloom and red tide response, alternate water supplies, resilience and flood prevention, beach and coral reef restoration, land acquisition and state parks, and cleanup of petroleum, dry cleaning, and hazardous waste sites. Representative Alvarez asked DEP to provide a list of the most contaminated lakes, along with estimated costs, so the committee could prioritize cleanup efforts. Representative Black summarized the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission request, which included additional law enforcement funding in high-demand areas, oyster and reef restoration, habitat restoration, heavy equipment for land management and prescribed burning, a water survival training center, and red snapper data research. Representative Salzman then presented the Department of Citrus request, describing a lean agency budget focused on operations, PALM readiness, marketing and consumer awareness, greening-resistant plant material, and building repairs; the workgroup recommended fully funding the request. The meeting ended with members thanking the chair and staff for the more member-driven budget process, and the subcommittee adjourned without objection.
OK
Transcript Highlights:
  • So I hired another legislative assistant, and I'm counting. I think I've had like eight.
  • She loves seeing the legislative process. We know you'll do awesome at OSU, Hoggett twins.
  • Senate Bill 1565 supports the food is medicine legislation passed last session.
  • We worked with OHCA to ensure that the current grant will not be affected by this legislation.
  • To ensure that the current grant will not be affected by this legislation.
Summary: The House convened under quorum call and began with several recognitions and presentations, including visits from Comanche County 4-H, the Muskogee Police Department officers who completed EMT training, the March of Dimes, and Ag Day honorees, including the Ag Hall of Fame recipient Ron Justice. The chamber also adopted House Resolution 1054 designating April 2026 as Library Month, with a special presentation honoring library leaders and advocates for their work on the first Library Day at the Capitol. The House then considered and passed a series of bills, mostly on broad bipartisan votes, covering state symbols, fireworks sales, oil and gas royalty protections, AP exam access, veteran records access for grandchildren, Medicaid support for a food-is-medicine grant, law library representation, controlled substances, public health, state security staffing, financial exploitation protections, credit union modernization, workforce data, staffing contracts, enterprise zone incentives, conveyance/title theft protections, hospice narcotics disposal, duplicate statute cleanup, and memorial highway/bridge designations. One major bill, SB 237 on eliminating the solar and battery storage manufacturing tax exemption, was laid over after discussion and questions about tax policy and local incentives. Several measures drew brief explanation and questions, including SB 2159 on state symbols and wheat, SB 1948 on fireworks sales, HB 1371 on oil and gas royalty payments and bankruptcy protections, SB 1975 on AP testing locations, SB 2026 on access to veterans’ discharge papers, SB 1565 on food-is-medicine Medicaid support, SB 1642 on splitting short opioid prescriptions, and SB 933 creating a right-to-try pathway for individualized treatment. Most of these bills passed with little or no debate, and several emergency clauses also passed by the required two-thirds vote. Not all measures advanced: SB 1771, expanding Workforce Commission data authority, failed on a 27-46 vote, and the House later gave notice of intent to reconsider. SB 1365 was reconsidered and then passed, but its emergency clause failed. The session also featured an extended personal privilege speech by Rep. Scott Fetgatter marking his departure, in which he thanked colleagues and staff and reflected on his tenure and legislative work.
OK
Transcript Highlights:
  • And I believe the legislation may have been put forward a few years ago by one of my good friends, a
  • legislator from Lindsay.
Summary: The House met in session with a roll call establishing a quorum, followed by prayer, the Pledge of Allegiance, and several recognitions, including the Doctor and Nurse of the Day and youth groups visiting the chamber. Special presentations honored the Oklahoma City Blazers under-10 ice hockey team for winning a Texas state championship and MacArthur High School JROTC cadets for repeated drill team success. The chamber also adopted House Resolution 1055 declaring April 29, 2026, as Oklahoma Agriculture Day, and House Resolution 1056 recognizing Denim Day during Sexual Assault Awareness Month; both were adopted without objection. Members then considered a series of Senate bills. SB 2170 on child custody passed 77-0 and requires supervised visitation when a court finds child abuse or sexual exploitation. SB 1833 codifies a federal waiver barring SNAP purchases of candy and soft drinks and passed 62-17. SB 1198, requiring the Oklahoma Health Care Authority to file releases on county- and municipally-owned properties at the request of local officials, passed 79-0. SB 1730, which requires law enforcement sexual abuse reports to be forwarded to OSBI for investigative use, drew debate over victim protection versus due-process concerns and passed 52-29. The House also passed SB 1379 creating a two-year grant pilot for services to labor and sex trafficking victims, including services regardless of immigration status, and approved the emergency. SB 1645 on Medicaid audit procedures, SB 2155 allowing the Route 66 Commission to use MOUs for administrative oversight, and several sunset-extension bills for boards and commissions also advanced, many with emergency clauses approved. SB 1461 extending the Oklahoma Educational Television Authority passed 67-20, but its emergency failed 55-20. Other measures passed included SB 1344 creating an insulin access and affordability program, SB 1309 increasing Roads Fund debt-service capacity, and multiple board-extension bills for construction, polygraph examiners, engineers and surveyors, and midwifery, most with emergency clauses adopted. The House then moved to announcements and recessed until 1:30 p.m.
NM

New Mexico 2026 Regular Session

House - Chamber Meeting Feb 9th, 2026 at 11:52 am

New Mexico House Floor Meeting

Transcript Highlights:
  • And as legislators and also as local elected officials.
  • Callie Carswell, with the Legislative Finance Committee.
  • Callie Carswell, with the Legislative Finance Committee.
  • And we as legislators put pressure on them. In my mind, Mr.
  • That's what this legislation is about.
MN

Minnesota 2025 1st Special Session

Committee on Health and Human Services - 02/06/25

Health and Human Services

Transcript Highlights:
  • <00:15:48.759> for also a requirement um in legislation for also a requirement um in legislation
  • I would also bring your attention to the 2022 Office of Legislative Auditor report on the EMSRB, and
  • legislative task force members including legislative task force members including Senator<01:11:45.320
  • <01:12:54.480> auditor legislative auditor legislative auditor uh<01:12:55.840> they<01
  • as many of you know with a a legislative as many of you know with a a legislative request<01:25:
Keywords: 1187, senate, all
Summary: The Health and Human Services Finance and Policy Committee met on February 6, 2025, for an update on emergency medical services (EMS) policy and implementation. Senator Seberger described the work of the EMS Task Force, which traveled statewide to hear concerns from providers about staffing, reimbursement, and retention. She said the task force led to the Sprint Medic model and two innovation zones in Otter Tail and St. Louis counties, and she urged continued monitoring and possible reconstitution of the task force to evaluate what is working and what could be expanded statewide. She also said future EMS work should continue to explore alternative response models and telemedicine, but that the most immediate need is additional funding, especially to address unpaid non-transport calls. Dylan Ferguson, director of the newly formed Minnesota Office of Emergency Medical Services, gave a detailed update on the office’s structure and priorities after the transition from the Emergency Medical Services Regulatory Board. He described the office’s three divisions, the appointment of deputy directors, the first meetings of the advisory councils, and work on a statewide EMS strategic plan. He also reviewed the $24 million emergency ambulance aid program, explaining its 40-40-20 formula, the emphasis on rural services, the reporting and spending deadlines, and the positive response from ambulance providers. He noted that the $6 million Sprint paramedic grant program is underway, with Otter Tail County moving forward and St. Louis County still finalizing its application. Ferguson also outlined the office’s budget request for modest staffing and contract-cost increases, two rulemaking efforts to update outdated ambulance vehicle standards and expand medication options for basic life support services, and ongoing data collection on workforce needs, violence against EMS providers, and ambulance crashes. He highlighted the paramedic scholarship program administered by the Office of Higher Education, saying nearly 300 scholarships have been awarded. Members and Senator Seberger praised the EMS reforms and emphasized that non-transport calls create significant unreimbursed costs, especially for rural and volunteer services, but no votes or formal committee actions were taken during the meeting.
TX

Texas 89th Regular

Appropriations - S/C on Articles VI, VII, & VIII Feb 24th, 2025

Appropriations - S/C on Articles VI, VII, & VIII

Transcript Highlights:
  • For the record, Thomas Galvan with the legislative. Board.
  • That's legislative appropriation request.
  • Is there a legislation that would allow it to happen?
  • We want good auditors. well-trained auditors who can shift through the daily cash reports.
  • A rider passed during the previous legislative session.
Keywords: 1184, house, all
MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

House Education Finance Committee 3/17/26

Education Finance

Transcript Highlights:
  • without a legislative appropriation. without a legislative appropriation.
  • The legislative assistant will call the roll.
  • The legislative assistant will call the roll.
  • The committee legislative assistant will The committee legislative assistant will call<01:18:19.840><
  • the legislative break on Thursday. the legislative break on Thursday.
Bills: HF3900
MN

Minnesota 2025 1st Special Session

Committee on Environment, Climate and Legacy - 03/20/25

Environment, Climate, and Legacy

Transcript Highlights:
  • <00:43:09.680> the summary, this legislation addresses the summary, this legislation addresses
  • 00:43:33.599> of legislation promotes the savings of legislation promotes the savings of billions
  • Adawi from Beauty Well, and we look forward to continuing to work on this legislation.
  • Adawi from Beauty Well, and we look forward to continuing to work on this legislation.
  • <01:50:58.000> and and environmental legislation and and environmental legislation and priorities
Keywords: 1187, senate, all
TX

Texas 89th Regular

Ways & Means May 12th, 2025

Ways & Means

Transcript Highlights:
  • So this legislation will require that when an overpayment of at least a dollar is discovered by a tax
  • Senate Bill 2206 is a critical piece of legislation that strengthens the commitment to research and development
  • want to first thank Senator Betancourt and Chairman Guerin for their leadership in sponsoring this legislation
  • Our auditor is not receiving all the documents to further investigate where the misuse of money is occurring
MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

Taxes Committee Meeting - 2026-04-23

Taxes

Transcript Highlights:
  • It would be adding 11<01:08:31.839> more<01:08:32.239> auditors<01:08:32.880> to
  • there's a some kind of legislation there's a some kind of legislation coming<01:28:14.239> for
  • Yeah. >> Fine piece of legislation. Fine piece.
  • in 2021, I kind of went legislators in 2021, I kind of went ballistic<02:31:54.080> actually.
  • And I think again, as legislators, I know I was trying to keep this as a bill, Chair.
LA
Transcript Highlights:
  • All right, the first piece of legislation we have is House Concurrent Resolution 32 by Representative
  • It's matching other language that's in legislation to allow OMV to refer debt if they choose.
  • That's exactly the question we're trying to clear up with this legislation. the Attorney General.
  • That's exactly the question we're trying to clear up with this legislation, is that it's a little bit
  • Baham deferred and this one, the legislative auditor came out with a report. ...in this late summer last
Summary: The Senate Committee on Transportation, Highways and Public Works met with five members present and approved the May 14, 2026 minutes. The committee first considered HCR 32, which urges the Port of New Orleans to secure backup motors for the aging St. Claude Avenue Bridge; members discussed the bridge’s importance, the relatively low cost of the motor, and the traffic and emergency-response impacts of repeated breakdowns. HCR 32 was reported favorably. HCR 68, a request to Congress for funding to remove unusable bridges along Highway 90 as part of reconnecting the corridor toward New Orleans East, was also reported favorably after brief discussion about federal representatives and coordination with DOTD. House Bill 582 was deferred without objection. The committee then took up HB 762, which clarifies that the Office of Motor Vehicles may, rather than must, refer certain delinquent reinstatement-fee debts to the Office of Debt Recovery or other collection channels. Testimony from OMV and the bill author emphasized that the measure was intended to clean up prior language and preserve OMV discretion, while senators raised concerns about political influence, collection practices, and the impact of fees and debt on drivers. HB 762 was reported favorably. HB 730, concerning automatic dependent surveillance broadcast devices on aircraft, was amended to limit its application to aircraft over 2,500 pounds and to prohibit the use of the imposed fees on smaller aircraft. Supporters said the bill restores the original safety purpose of the devices and prevents their use for fee collection; the committee reported the bill favorably as amended. The committee also reported favorably on HCR 53, which creates a study committee on oversized vehicle permits and their parish-level impacts, and HCR 60, which urges DOTD to pursue the DRIVE initiative to study and improve safety on the I-12 corridor. The meeting concluded with a motion to adjourn.
KY
Transcript Highlights:
  • They are the claim administration, is subject to audit by our auditors, and they get a clean audit. >
  • c> detailed<00:30:45.360> technical auditors, uh, it's detailed technical auditors, uh, it's
  • <00:36:18.880> legislators, happens with all legislate legislators, happens with all legislate
  • cautious when we're passing legislation cautious when we're passing legislation to<02:02:43.119>
  • 02:13:14.719> a<02:13:14.880> very legislation we um it's a very legislation we um it's
Keywords: 958, all
Summary: The committee first approved the June 9 minutes, then reviewed a deferred personnel contract involving workers’ compensation claims administration. Staff explained that the roughly $50 million figure included about $48 million for claims payments and up to $1.45 million per year for administrative services, with billing based on a fee schedule for specific services rendered. Senator Meredith raised concerns about the vendor’s history, the scoring and bid process, and prior allegations involving the company; the administration responded that the procurement had been conducted under 45A through open competition, with outside scorers and no finding of wrongdoing tied to this contract. Meredith moved to disapprove Contract 167, Hart seconded, and the committee voted 5-2 to disapprove it. The committee then deferred a Western Kentucky University personal services contract because the vendors were still not registered with the Secretary of State’s office. Hart moved to defer the contract until the August 2026 meeting, Meredith seconded, and the motion carried. The committee also approved the agenda covering the various contract lists and deferred items. Next, the committee heard from the Cabinet for Health and Family Services on several personal services contracts for medical staffing and related services. Secretary Steven Stack and staff explained that staffing shortages often require outside vendors, that the contracts were competitively bid under 45A, and that the cabinet uses a streamlined vendor pool for specialized needs such as actuaries, auditors, and technical consultants. The committee approved Contracts 52 through 55 without objection. Discussion then began on Contract 61, with Meredith expressing concern that the committee lacked enough detail to judge whether the services could be performed in-house or whether the exchange of resources was appropriate; Stack said the contract was intended to provide efficient access to specialized outside expertise. The transcript cuts off before a final vote on Contract 61 is shown.
LA

Louisiana 2026 Regular Session

Administration of Criminal Justice May 19th, 2026

Administration of Criminal Justice

Transcript Highlights:
  • The legislation is about transparency, accountability, and giving us as legislators, as well as the public
  • So what is being reported on the dashboard is actually being turned over to the legislative auditor for
  • And we have a white card, Edward Seiler, legislative auditor, will provide information if requested.
  • This legislation is about reporting accuracy.
  • It's contrary to this proposed legislation, is it not?
Summary: The committee heard a long agenda of criminal justice measures, with several bills and resolutions reported favorably and others rejected or deferred. Representative Baham’s HB 255, as substituted, would enhance penalties for certain felony or rioting offenses committed while wearing a mask to evade identification, with exceptions for religious, motorcycle, and medical coverings; it was reported favorably after opposition from the ACLU and support from law enforcement groups. His HB 378, as amended, narrowed a vehicle-obstruction offense to first responders and was also reported favorably. HB 1090, increasing penalties for arson of a religious building, was reported favorably with support from the Louisiana Conference of Catholic Bishops. HR 272, requesting a study of parental discipline, abuse allegations, and juvenile delinquency, was reported favorably after sponsor testimony about confusion over current law. HB 479, the “Fiscal Truth and Sentencing Act,” sought quarterly reporting on incarceration costs and sentencing impacts; despite support from the ACLU and opposition from clerks of court over an unfunded mandate, it failed on a 4-7 roll call. HR 278, asking the Attorney General to review electronic monitoring laws and make recommendations, was reported favorably after testimony from advocates and supporters of tighter oversight. HR 273, creating a task force to study work-release programs, was also reported favorably, while SB 278 was voluntarily deferred. The committee also considered several high-profile social policy measures. HB 261, by Representative Boyd, would create an exception to abortion restrictions for rape and certain sex offenses; the hearing featured extensive emotional testimony from survivors, clergy, and legislators on both sides, but the bill was rejected on a 2-10 vote. HCR 100, as amended, urged the Gaming Control Board to ensure due diligence in proposed casino acquisitions with attention to economic development, job creation, and community benefit; the amendment resolved industry concerns and the resolution was reported favorably. SB 448, concerning the Office of the State Public Defender, was amended to add procedures for expert-witness funding disputes, sealed contradictory hearings, and interlocutory review, then reported favorably. SB 135, which would redirect sports wagering revenue away from a capped sports fund and toward early childhood seats, drew opposition from university-related interests but no motion was made. Finally, HB 778 on kratom was presented as a narrower approach that would ban synthetic and semi-synthetic kratom while allowing regulated natural products; testimony included concerns about harm, business impacts, and claimed benefits for pain management and PTSD, and the discussion was still underway at the end of the transcript.