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• There's a lot going on, but I do want to see if we can solve this problem.
• I think that may be a problem.
• I think that may be a problem. to pay you. All right. I think that may be a problem.
• I think you could argue right now that it's a may, but the problem is it's not clear.
• That it's a may, but the problem is it's not clear, and so we're just trying to make it clear, right?

Summary: The Senate Committee on Transportation, Highways and Public Works met with five members present and approved the May 14, 2026 minutes. The committee first considered HCR 32, which urges the Port of New Orleans to secure backup motors for the aging St. Claude Avenue Bridge; members discussed the bridge’s importance, the relatively low cost of the motor, and the traffic and emergency-response impacts of repeated breakdowns. HCR 32 was reported favorably. HCR 68, a request to Congress for funding to remove unusable bridges along Highway 90 as part of reconnecting the corridor toward New Orleans East, was also reported favorably after brief discussion about federal representatives and coordination with DOTD. House Bill 582 was deferred without objection. The committee then took up HB 762, which clarifies that the Office of Motor Vehicles may, rather than must, refer certain delinquent reinstatement-fee debts to the Office of Debt Recovery or other collection channels. Testimony from OMV and the bill author emphasized that the measure was intended to clean up prior language and preserve OMV discretion, while senators raised concerns about political influence, collection practices, and the impact of fees and debt on drivers. HB 762 was reported favorably. HB 730, concerning automatic dependent surveillance broadcast devices on aircraft, was amended to limit its application to aircraft over 2,500 pounds and to prohibit the use of the imposed fees on smaller aircraft. Supporters said the bill restores the original safety purpose of the devices and prevents their use for fee collection; the committee reported the bill favorably as amended. The committee also reported favorably on HCR 53, which creates a study committee on oversized vehicle permits and their parish-level impacts, and HCR 60, which urges DOTD to pursue the DRIVE initiative to study and improve safety on the I-12 corridor. The meeting concluded with a motion to adjourn.

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• and a bigger problem, and I'm not talking Sharia law on that.
• No foul, no problem. Representative McKenzie, you're recognized for a question. Thank you, Mr.
• It's only a one-year problem.
• If we think Plasky County's got the problem, you hadn't seen anything yet.
• And if we don't deal with it, we're going to run into the same financial problem.

Summary: The committee first considered House Resolution 1016, presented by Rep. Marcus Richmond, which sought permission to file a bill aimed at consumer protection in certain housing arrangements where buyers purchase an interest in an entity rather than the property itself. Richmond said the measure was intended to improve transparency, prevent deceptive real estate practices, and ensure disputes would be handled in Arkansas or federal courts rather than private tribunals. Members raised concerns about overlap with existing law, possible effects on homeowners associations, arbitration clauses, hunting clubs, religious organizations, and the bill’s 25-acre exemption. After discussion, the committee voted down the resolution. House Resolution 1006, by Rep. Bart Schultz, proposed increasing the homestead tax credit by $75, from $600 to $675, using a fund created for property tax relief. Schultz argued the increase was supported by the annual report on the fund and was timely because of higher costs for gas and groceries. Members asked about using special language instead, whether the increase could be made retroactive later, and whether the governor had included it on the call. The committee approved the resolution. The committee then heard House Resolution 1007, presented by Sen. Brian King and Rep. James Eaton, which would have changed how turnback sales tax revenue is distributed to counties, with the first $150 million of sales tax revenue going into a fund for county infrastructure and each county receiving an equal share. Supporters said it would help counties with roads, jails, water, sewer, and other critical needs, while opponents questioned whether taking revenue off the top would harm other state services and whether the issue was urgent enough for a fiscal session. The resolution failed. House Resolution 1008, by Rep. Jim Wooten and Sen. King, sought changes to the LEARNS Act and school choice funding, including performance-based eligibility and reporting requirements. Wooten argued the program was financially unsustainable and that accountability was needed; members questioned whether the proposal would create a larger emergency and whether it should instead be handled through budget language. The resolution failed after a point of order interrupted the closing remarks. Finally, House Resolution 1009, presented by Rep. Ron McNair and Sen. King, aimed to restore local control over crypto mines and data centers, citing concerns about water use, electricity demand, Chinese ownership, and litigation tied to prior legislation. Members questioned whether the issue was truly emergent and whether the resolution was the right vehicle. The resolution failed. House Resolution 1015, by Rep. Howard Beatty, proposed amending the prior IDA bill to address concerns raised by constituents, including board accountability and removing eminent domain authority. Supporters said it would improve the bill before next session, but the resolution also failed. The committee then adjourned.

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• The teacher... ...or marital problems and divorce.
• The problems internally is that there is no...
• In terms of the questions I had, the problem...
• what problems does it create?
• That's a solution to resolve this problem.

Bills: SB1048, SB1071, SB1092, SB1314, SB1391, SB1400, SB1401, SB1452

Keywords: juvenile services, Coconino county, rehabilitation, detox center, financial appropriation, Arizona Rangers, statutory repeal, security, state law, regulatory changes, probation, dangerous crimes, children, Arizona Revised Statutes, criminal justice, juvenile offenses, appropriations, salary increase, corrections, public safety

Summary: The committee heard several public safety and appropriations-related bills. SB 1452 would create a cargo theft task force in the Attorney General’s Office to coordinate with federal, state, and local law enforcement on cargo and freight theft; the sponsor and trucking industry supporters described cargo theft as a rapidly growing, organized crime problem, and the bill received a 7-0 do pass recommendation. SB 1048 would appropriate $36 million to Coconino County for a new juvenile court services facility and conversion of the existing detention center into a detox/sobriety/crisis recovery center; some members objected to directing a large sum to one county, but it passed 4-3. SB 1092 would prohibit early termination of probation or earned-time/work-time credit for people convicted of dangerous crimes against children, including retroactive application to current lifetime probationers; the sponsor argued it would prevent offenders from being released from supervision, while opponents raised concerns about judicial discretion and overbreadth, and it passed 4-3. The committee also approved SB 1391, which directs AZ POST to create a pilot law enforcement stress management and mental wellness training program with a $950,000 appropriation and a sunset date in 2029. Supporters, including law enforcement trainers and family members, said the program would address cumulative stress, suicide prevention, and resiliency before crises occur; it passed 7-0. SB 1401, a special license plate bill creating a golf tournament charity plate and fund to support youth athletic programs in Tucson, also passed unanimously after testimony from the Tucson Conquistadors. SB 1314 sought unspecified appropriations for salary increases for probation officers, corrections staff, juvenile corrections officers, and DPS employees. Supporters from the Fraternal Order of Police and agency representatives argued that pay raises were needed to address vacancies, turnover, and retention, while some members expressed concern about the open-ended cost and broader budget pressures; it passed 5-1 with one not voting. The committee then took up SB 1071, which would repeal the Arizona Rangers’ statutory framework; testimony sharply divided over accountability, transparency, training, and the organization’s public service role. Rather than vote, the chair held the bill for further discussion and possible amendment. Finally, the committee heard SB 1400, which would allow law enforcement agencies to establish confidential wellness and peer support counseling programs for employees exposed to trauma; supporters said confidentiality is needed to encourage officers to seek help, and the bill was presented for further consideration.

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• That's usually not a problem. My apology. That's usually not a problem. My apologies.
• We don't want to fix that problem, but create a problem that will create a problem elsewhere for farmers
• is we go to fix a problem, but we create another problem.
• , the exact problem that you identify.
• , the exact problem that you identify.

Keywords: 996, all

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• So they're going to these businesses and they're saying this is the problem.
• I mean, I think the main problem here is that they're settling it without fixing the problem.
• It's a good word, especially if you're not fixing the problem. Right.
• If you're not fixing the problem. So, yeah, I understand.
• Especially if you're not fixing the problem. Right. You're not, if you're not fixing the problem.

Keywords: 959, house, all

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• No problem. No problem.
• So that is definitely a problem. Great. Any other? A problem. Great.
• No problem.
• This is a public law program problem.
• This is a public law program problem.

Summary: The committee received agency updates on several behavioral health and justice programs. The Health Care Authority reported that assisted outpatient treatment (AOT) has expanded from two counties to eight, with a ninth expected in December, and described AOT as a court-ordered, least-restrictive treatment model that depends on close coordination among courts, treatment providers, and local officials. The agency also reviewed Joel’s Law, which lets family members, guardians, conservators, or tribes petition for an initial involuntary detention when they disagree with a designated crisis responder’s decision. Judges Ferreira and Larson said petition use has increased significantly statewide and in Snohomish County, but many cases do not proceed beyond the initial detention stage; they also noted family frustration, disjointed processes, and bed shortages as ongoing issues. Committee members asked about expansion criteria, the law’s effectiveness, and how the system fits together with other mental health interventions. The Attorney General’s Office presented on the hate crimes and bias incidents hotline created by SB 5427. The hotline began a pilot in King, Clark, and Spokane counties on July 1, 2025, with a statewide launch planned for 2027. Officials said the advisory committee helped shape the referral process, intake questions, outreach materials, and public branding. In the first five months, the hotline received 301 reports, with roughly 45% from King County and about 38% from outside the pilot counties; 42% requested follow-up, and only about a quarter of those wanted law enforcement referral. Testimony emphasized that the hotline is non-emergency, anonymous if desired, and focused on referrals rather than investigation. Members asked about why callers do not seek law enforcement involvement, how the hotline compares with Oregon’s launch, and what kinds of incidents are being reported. The Office of Independent Investigations reported progress on its work investigating police deadly force fatalities. Director Roger Rogoff said the agency has grown to 66 employees, including 31 investigators, and has completed six fatality investigations, with two public final reports posted. He said the office now operates in Region 1 and plans to expand statewide as staffing allows, with a future east-side expansion dependent on additional investigators. He also said the office has 29 requests to review prior cases, but those reviews are time-intensive and limited to cases with new evidence. Committee members asked about staffing needs, local cooperation, and whether the office conducts parallel investigations; Rogoff said OII performs the criminal investigation, while agencies may still do administrative reviews. The committee then heard a lengthy panel on public defense caseload standards and funding. The Washington State Bar Association, Washington Defender Association, county representatives, and city representatives all discussed the new caseload standards and the implementation timeline. Speakers said the standards reflect modern public defense realities but warned that funding, attorney recruitment and retention, office space, and data collection remain major barriers. Survey results from county offices showed wide variation in readiness, with many counties uncertain about timelines and most citing lack of funding as the biggest obstacle; attorney attrition was also described as high. County and city representatives argued that the new standards will require far more attorneys and support staff, and that local governments cannot absorb the cost without substantial state funding. They urged the Legislature to increase state support, improve workforce pipelines, and address structural issues in the public defense system.

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• We have these problems.
• This continues to be a problem that we have not yet solved.
• That's not where the problem was at.
• And that's a problem for us, right?
• So this is the problem that we have in our state, but it's a problem we have very egregiously at the

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• We need to work together to allow for creative solutions to this problem.
• We need to work together to allow for creative solutions to this problem.
• We need to work together to allow for creative solutions to this problem.
• We need to work together to allow for creative solutions to this problem.
• This problem will deepen and worsen unless we take action.

Keywords: 1187, senate, all

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• There's no problem. You can't even point to a problem. It is about trans kids stuck to the wall.
• There's no problem. You can't even point to a problem. It is about trans kids stuck to the wall.
• There's no problem. You can't even point to a problem. It is about trans kids stuck to the wall.
• There's no problem. You can't even point to a problem. It is about trans kids stuck to the wall.
• There's no problem. You can't even point to a problem. It is about trans kids stuck to the wall.

Keywords: 1183, house

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• I've been blessed to work on and carry myself along with my colleagues to end trafficking, but the problem
• And so we know it's a huge problem.
• The labor trafficking problem is huge.
• So labor trafficking in the daytime and sex traffic at night, big problems.
• It is a huge problem.

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• So, just as a baseline, you know, we have an access problem there.
• But, you know, I've read the bill, and it does address these problems in a practical way.
• The problem is that PBMs have tasted the forbidden fruit.
• The problem with the drug channel that exists today is not just a PBM problem.
• It is a policy problem. Years ago, in the '90s, they created the Medicaid Drug Rebate Program.

Bills: SB511, SB512, HB591, HB909, HB938, HB1154, HB1187

Keywords: automobile repairs, insurance transparency, repair shop liability, non-OEM parts, policyholder rights, automobile insurance, appraisal process, insurance policyholders, dispute resolution, claim valuation, family leave, insurance, paid leave, employment benefits, caregiver support, behavioral health, crisis services, mental health care, insurance coverage, healthcare access

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• So it's not a good system, and this is a common problem.
• Or a problem.
• So that's a big part of the problem.
• And so, and it's quite a serious problem.
• It is a huge problem.

Bills: HB2051, HB2324, HB2439, HB2457, HB2686, HB2837, HB2875, HB2953

Keywords: AHCCCS, lactation care, breastfeeding, health services, healthcare access, HB2324, fire code, fire marshal, state fire marshal, municipalities, cities and towns, county-owned buildings, county buildings, intergovernmental agreement, IGA, fire inspection, occupancy certificate, building inventory, local government, county government

Summary: The Committee on Regulatory Affairs and Government Efficiency approved the March 11, 2026 minutes and then heard several bills. HB 2686, a patient-protection measure for outpatient surgical facilities, would require surgeons to file and update a call-coverage plan for hospital complications; the sponsor said it would improve continuity of care and reduce emergency room confusion, and the committee recommended it do pass. HB 2051 would require AHCCCS contractors, subject to CMS approval, to cover breastfeeding and lactation services in multiple settings; supporters described it as a maternal and infant health measure, AHCCCS was neutral and noted a projected state cost of about $1.8 million, and the bill received a do-pass recommendation on a 6-0 vote with one member not voting. The committee also approved HB 2837, which requires compensation disclosure for testimony or written comments in municipal zoning matters and requires certain municipal board members or hearing officers to disclose and recuse for recent conflicts involving entities they served; the sponsor framed it as a transparency and conflict-of-interest bill, and it passed 6-0 with one not voting. HB 2875, concerning commercial drone delivery systems, was amended to allow local regulation of drone facilities near medium and large hub airports within a 2.5-mile buffer and to require consultation with airports; Zipline and industry groups supported the measure as providing regulatory clarity, and the committee adopted the amendment and recommended the bill do pass. HB 2324 would let cities with their own fire codes, through an intergovernmental agreement, have city fire inspectors enforce those codes on county-owned buildings in city limits when state enforcement is burdensome; county and fire officials said it would resolve jurisdictional confusion, and the bill passed 6-0 with one not voting. HB 2439 would exempt single-user public or semi-public cold plunges from ADEQ spa rules, and an amendment removed ADEQ rulemaking authority; county health representatives said the change would reduce confusion, but one member raised public-health concerns, and the amended bill passed 4-2 with one not voting. HB 2457 would allow utilities to bypass the certificate of environmental compatibility process for new plants co-located with large electricity users after notice and a public comment session; the Sierra Club opposed it as reducing public review, while supporters said it preserved some local input and improved efficiency, and it passed 4-2 with one not voting. Finally, HB 2953 would cap certain nondisciplinary and civil penalties imposed by the Board of Pharmacy at $25,000 and allow lower penalties based on prior activity; a supporter said it matched limits used in other regulatory contexts, and the committee recommended it do pass unanimously.

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• done a long time ago, and we wouldn't have a gun violence problem anymore.
• wouldn't have a gun violence problem wouldn't have a gun violence problem anymore. anymore. anymore
• And that's primarily a greater Minnesota problem, disproportionately anyway.
• And that's primarily a greater Minnesota problem, disproportionately anyway.
• problem, disproportionately anyway. problem, disproportionately anyway.

Keywords: 1187, senate, all

Summary: The interview focused on Minnesota gun violence prevention efforts following the June shootings of the Hortmans and Hoffmans and the Annunciation shooting. The senator said those events prompted him and Senator Zaynab Mohamed to form a gun violence prevention working group during the interim to gather public and expert input, explore ideas, and build bipartisan support. He said the group was meant to set the stage for session work, and that several ideas vetted there are now appearing in legislative proposals, along with a package from the governor’s office. Asked what the legislature should prioritize, the senator said there is no single solution and outlined a multi-pronged approach: enforcing and expanding red flag and universal background check laws, considering an assault weapons ban and high-capacity magazine limits, banning ghost guns and binary triggers, improving firearm storage and security, and increasing school counseling and wraparound mental health supports. He emphasized that mental health alone is not the cause of violence, but said better identification of students in distress and easier access to care could help. He also argued that these measures can coexist with the Second Amendment and said regulation is appropriate to keep firearms from people with violent criminal histories, domestic violence histories, or other prohibitions. On politics and prospects, he said passage will depend on bipartisan negotiation in a closely divided legislature, noting that some Democrats and Republicans are uncomfortable with certain proposals while others are open to them. He said he is willing to adjust language, as he did on earlier red flag and background check laws, and hopes members will work with him and Senator Mohamed, especially in swing districts. If no package passes this session, he said the issue will return next session and voters should hold legislators accountable in the next election. He closed by telling families affected by gun violence that lawmakers are working on the issue now and should not wait for another mass shooting, adding that gun violence also includes suicides and other daily deaths, not just mass shootings.

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• and for Medicaid, the new work requirements are going to be very difficult when we already have problems
• They're going to be very difficult when we already have problems with our voc rehab system, and we're
• Do we have a spending problem, a priority problem, or do we have a revenue problem?
• , which is the problem of austerity.”
• , which is the problem of austerity.”

Summary: The meeting was a press conference and Q&A led by Rep. Shaun Scott to promote the proposed Well Washington Fund, a new dedicated account intended to raise about $3 billion annually through a corporate payroll tax on wages above $125,000. Scott said the bill would help offset expected federal cuts under Trump-era policies and support programs most at risk, including cash assistance, higher education, health care, housing, and wildfire mitigation. He also referenced two related proposals: restoring wildfire mitigation funding by ending a tax break for large banks, and allowing counties to raise corporate taxes. Several advocates and affected residents testified in support of progressive revenue. Michelle Thomas of the Washington Low Income Housing Alliance warned that federal homelessness policy changes and state underinvestment could worsen homelessness and evictions. Christina Savitsky, a disabled veteran, described how Medicaid, food assistance, and work requirements would affect her family. Representatives from the University of Washington AAUP said federal cuts and Medicaid changes threaten teaching, research, workforce training, and hospital finances. Fatima Boxwala of Tech for Taxes and Mikey Stramskis of the Washington Federation of State Employees argued that large corporations and the wealthy should pay more to sustain public services and address understaffing, burnout, and service backlogs. In the Q&A, Scott said the bill may need an emergency clause to make it referendum-proof and argued that the legislature has a mandate to act, citing the 2024 capital gains tax referendum and the state’s regressive tax system. He acknowledged concerns about businesses leaving but said he was more concerned about working people being displaced by unaffordable housing, child care, and health care. No vote or formal committee action occurred; the event was a call for a hearing in the House Finance Committee in 2026 and for legislative passage in both chambers.

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• Potential finding or if it was more of a technical problem, there was generally attempting to work with
• these two problems.
• of these two problems.
• We are trying to hold accountable and allow OIR to step in and solve problems prior to what happened
• We are trying to hold accountable and allow OIR to step in and solve problems prior to what happened

Summary: The committee heard and advanced several insurance, financial regulation, and public safety bills. The most extensive discussion centered on SB 1656, a major Office of Insurance Regulation bill covering reciprocal insurers, rate transparency, data calls, cybersecurity notification, and stronger oversight of continuing care retirement communities (CCRCs). The sponsor and OIR described the bill as aimed at transparency and preventing insolvencies, especially after recent CCRC failures. CCRC residents and industry representatives testified both in support and in opposition, with supporters emphasizing resident protection and opponents warning about liens, reserve requirements, management-company regulation, and higher costs. After debate and assurances that problematic provisions would be refined, the committee adopted a delete-all amendment and then reported the bill favorably. The committee also passed SB 1658, which creates a public records framework for the uniform mitigation verification of inspection form database while protecting policyholders’ personal information; a clarifying amendment was adopted before the bill was reported favorably. SB 1612 on financial institutions was approved after a substitute amendment restored current limits on credit union investments and kept only reimbursement, not salary, authority for certain board members and officers. SB 1740, an insurance bill intended to reduce premiums and insurer insolvency risk, was amended to prioritize rate-decrease filings and prohibit claim denials based solely on AI, then reported favorably. Two public-safety bills also moved forward. SB 1212 on firefighter health and safety would update OSHA-related protections, address toxic exposure in gear, encourage safer replacement equipment, and support best practices and mental health resources; an amendment refined terminology and added related provisions, and the bill was reported favorably. SB 1184 on residual market insurers was amended to preserve existing consumer protections and disclosure rules for excess and surplus lines and to clarify Citizens-related appointment requirements before being reported favorably. Throughout the meeting, members repeatedly noted ongoing stakeholder negotiations and intent to refine several bills further in later committee stops.

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• So it's a problem, and it's a growing problem. I do understand it's a problem.
• I think we all recognize the problem, and I know... Senate Bill 857 is trying to address.
• These illegal signs are more than just eyesores, they create fear. real problems, traffic safety risk
• because we've had problems with design bid build as well.
• and they solve our storage problems and our customers are happy.

Bills: SB35, SB284, SB296, SB305, SB857, SB995, SB1121, SB1555, SB1902, SCR25, SB 35

Keywords: transportation, TxDOT, Texas Department of Transportation, road projects, highways, infrastructure, bridge construction, interchanges, corridor improvements, road widening, railroad grade separation, sound barrier, unified transportation program, legislative notice, project prioritization, capital projects, state highway system, Farm-to-Market Roads, San Antonio, Harris County

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• No, that's not a problem.
• And that was the problem even when I was in school.
• And it was a problem back then. So I think if we... ...on campus, and it was a problem back then.
• It doesn't do anything to deal with someone who's got a severe problem.
• It's a problem. It's a problem in our schools.

Keywords: 996, all

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• Okay, that's going to be a problem. She's going to have kidney problems for the rest of her life.
• Doctors aren't the problem, lawyers aren't the problem; problem doctors are the problem, and problem
• lawyers are the problem.
• I think we could probably solve the lawyer problem here, but you can't solve the doctor problem here.
• Here's where you run into your problem.

Bills: HB4806

Keywords: civil action, damages, health care services, noneconomic damages, negligence, legal standards, 1184, house, all

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• That would be a good problem to have.
• We're trying to address a problem.
• This problem has become very pronounced.
• The nature of this problem.
• And there's a problem with that? We're running out of space.

Bills: HB48, HB49, HB 1169, HB1971, HB2584, HB2663, HB2890, HB48, HB49

Keywords: HB 48, oilfield theft, organized theft, petroleum products, oil and gas equipment, DPS, Department of Public Safety, Texas, Railroad Commission, criminal justice, energy resources, theft prevention, organized crime, border region, El Paso, law enforcement task force, asset recovery, pipeline theft, drilling equipment, equipment theft

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• The problem that it appears is that that is too broad for what the FBI is looking for.

Keywords: 928, house, all

Summary: The subcommittee heard House Bill 2712, which would remove the exam requirement for licensure as a Licensed Social Work Associate (LSWA). Members expressed concern that the exam requirement was only added in 2021 and has not been in place long enough to evaluate, but they also questioned whether licensure should be granted without a meaningful measure of competency. Testimony was split: supporters argued the exam is a barrier for applicants without formal social work education, while opponents said licensure should still require some standard of competency, especially because the title carries public expectations and insurance reimbursement implications. Karina Bonia, speaking for NASW New Hampshire, said there is very limited data because only one person in New Hampshire currently holds an LSWA. She explained that LSWA applicants may have degrees outside social work, unlike licensed social workers, and that the current exam is the same national social work exam used for higher levels of licensure. She argued that this creates a significant barrier for LSWA applicants and noted that LSWA holders are already required to complete 30 hours of training and substantial supervised hours. Members asked for data on pass/fail rates and whether a different exam or practical skills test would be more appropriate. Committee members and OPLC representatives discussed whether the current statute and board rules already provide enough authority for the board to set other criteria, and whether the exam requirement is tied to the social work compact. OPLC indicated that the current rule requires passage of a national proctored exam approved by the board, but that no national exam exists specifically for this level, and that the board may need legislative authority to develop different criteria. The discussion ended with interest in obtaining the existing rule language and possibly revisiting the issue through amendment or future legislation rather than immediately removing the exam requirement.