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KY
Kentucky 2026 Regular Session
House Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Energy. (3-5-26)
Natural Resources & Energy
Transcript Highlights:
- There's a portion of this on a rate There's a portion of this on a rate freeze. freeze. freeze.
- We wanted to clarify that that rate We wanted to clarify that that rate freeze<00:15:22.560>
- the rates for that. the rates for that.
- twofold helping with this energy rate twofold helping with this energy rate issue<00:31:25.240><
- My good friend here 2-year rate freeze.
Keywords:
Meeting Start 00:00
Attendance Roll Call 00:25
HB 667 Discussion 01:21
HB 667 Roll Call Vote 03:56
HB 677 Discussion 05:01
HB 677 Roll Call Vote 11:51
HB 535 Discussion 13:33
HB 535 Roll Call Vote 34:46
HJR 77 Discussion 38:33
HJR 77 Roll Call Vote 44:23, 958, all
Summary:
The committee first considered House Bill 667, described by the sponsor as a cleanup measure to a 2024 solid waste law. Testimony said the bill would clarify issues involving indirect access to protected information, contractors and consultants, Open Records Act interactions, and remedies when protected material is obtained. The committee voted 13-0 to pass the bill favorably and recommended it for passage on the House floor.
The committee then took up House Bill 677, which would establish Kentucky’s legal and regulatory framework for carbon dioxide geological sequestration and help the state seek EPA primacy over Class VI injection wells. Supporters said the bill was the product of 18 months of work among industry, landowner, environmental, and cabinet stakeholders, and argued it would promote economic development, protect landowners, and support carbon-capture investment and related infrastructure, especially in Western Kentucky. An amendment was adopted by voice vote, and the bill then passed favorably with committee amendment attached.
Finally, the committee discussed House Bill 535 as amended by a committee substitute. The bill would authorize securitization for certain investor-owned utilities with out-of-state assets, including Kentucky Power, to refinance assets such as the Mitchell plant and certain regulatory assets, with a two-year rate freeze and PSC review for net savings. Sponsors and supporters framed it as an affordability and jobs measure that could finance new natural gas generation at Big Sandy, create several hundred construction jobs, and support long-term economic development in Eastern Kentucky. Members raised concerns about utility fees, PSC discretion, and transparency; sponsors said the proposal would not be approved without overall savings and that applications would also be reviewed by the legislature, the Attorney General, and EPIC. The committee adopted the committee substitute and then passed House Bill 535 favorably, with several members explaining their votes and some noting continued reservations for floor consideration.
NH
New Hampshire 2025 Regular Session
House Science, Technology and Energy (03/10/2025)
Science, Technology and Energy
NM
New Mexico 2026 Regular Session
IC - Revenue Stabilization and Tax Policy Dec 16th, 2025
Transcript Highlights:
- tax rate.
- The flat SIT rate was changed to variable rates over three brackets.
- PIT brackets were reduced from 19 to 7 rates, and the rates were modified.
- Pit brackets were reduced from 19 to 7 rates and the rates were modified.
- She rates, a lot to be credited against the state gross receipts tax rate.
Summary:
The committee’s final day focused first on a historical overview of New Mexico tax packages by Pam Stokes of Legislative Council Services. She described how tax packages have alternated over the decades between tax relief, revenue raising, and tax reform, with examples ranging from the creation of the gross receipts tax in 1966 to major packages in 1981, 1986, 1991, 1994, 2005, 2019, 2022, 2024, and the vetoed 2025 package. Members discussed how tax policy often tracks revenue conditions, how packages can combine increases and decreases, and how local government gross receipts taxes and hold-harmless distributions have affected communities differently. Several members reflected on past packages, especially the 2004 food tax repeal and the 2013 film tax and manufacturing changes, and noted that tax policy can have major economic and political effects even when it is not “sexy” legislation.
The committee then heard a proposal to expand the health care practitioner gross receipts tax deduction to include co-insurance, and to extend the sunset date. Sponsor Senator Figueroa said the bill was intended to help recruit and retain medical providers and build on prior deductions for co-pays and deductibles. Testimony explained that co-insurance is the patient’s share after the deductible, that providers currently absorb the gross receipts tax on those payments, and that the proposal would cost about $30 million to the state plus about $20 million to municipalities and counties, with the exact fiscal impact likely to be updated. Members raised concerns about the effect on local governments, whether insurers could be required to reimburse providers, whether the bill would actually attract doctors, and whether better evaluation measures and sunsets should be added. The sponsor said the bill was part of a broader set of efforts to address provider shortages and that the discussion would continue.
Representative McQueen then presented a bill to update the Land Conservation Incentives Act. He and conservation partners said the program has protected more than 500,000 acres but has not kept pace with rising land values, especially for irrigated agricultural land in the Middle Rio Grande. The proposal would increase the percentage of conservation value eligible for the credit, raise the per-transaction cap from $250,000 to $2 million, and make the credit refundable rather than only transferable. Testimony emphasized that the program is voluntary, keeps land in private ownership and production, and helps land-rich, cash-poor landowners preserve farmland and water rights. Members asked about average credit amounts, how easements work, whether landowners could effectively buy land and then use the credit, and whether there should be inflation indexing or a statewide cap. The discussion also touched on water rights, fencing, and the role of conservation easements in protecting agricultural land and compact water deliveries.
Finally, Senator Sharer previewed his 2% tax proposal with a historical presentation on New Mexico tax law, using props to illustrate the evolution from early territorial tax codes to the modern tax system. He argued that the state’s current tax structure is overly complex and that recent federal changes have disrupted the personal income tax base. The committee did not take any votes on the day’s presentations; the meeting was primarily informational, with members offering feedback and raising policy concerns for future sessions.
NM
New Mexico 2025 Regular Session
IC - Legislative Finance Nov 20th, 2025
Transcript Highlights:
- In the last couple of years, even though we had this big rate increase since the pandemic, rate increases
- We would say this year we looked at the rates, and you can look at the rate filings.
- So they had a 2.6 experience rate, and I can't recall the surcharge rate, but we charge them for the
- In response to your question, broadly speaking, the rates we've seen—the theft rates have gone down nationwide
- And when you started talking about experience ratings, ratings, all the lights flashed all over in my
TX
Transcript Highlights:
- Rates that they're recovering, we meet that test.
- It allows them to put rates in and put assets. That's in rates on day one.
- On the flip side, the utilities have to wait to put investment in rates until they have an interim rate
- But they got a good credit rating.
- Well, this is a good rate of return for taxpayers.
Bills:
HB106, HB144, HB145, HB252, HB1732, HB2221, HB2467, HB2468, HB2517, HB2518, HB2963, HB3016, HB3689, HB3960, HB4386, HB4490, HB4751, HB5247, HJR175, HB2213, HB106, HB144, HB145, HB252
Keywords:
HB 106, oil and gas, Railroad Commission of Texas, overhead electrical lines, electrical distribution system, power line maintenance, administrative penalty, Natural Resources Code, oil and gas lease, well operator, energy safety, utility infrastructure, regulatory compliance, cleanup fund, oil and gas regulation and cleanup fund, production safety, leasehold operations, electric utility, distribution poles, inspection
NH
Transcript Highlights:
- in order to stabilize the rates. in order to stabilize the rates.
- spent and rate reductions occur. spent and rate reductions occur.
- the regular rate. the regular rate.
- that we could pay a higher rate.
- ,<00:28:36.000>
and committee to look at at the rates, and committee to look at at the rates
NH
Transcript Highlights:
- That is a solid rate.
- or a shelf rate or some sort of small group rate.
- or a shelf rate or some sort of rate or a shelf rate or some sort of small<01:44:03.840>
group - ><01:44:04.239>
rate. - small group rate. That's what we do. small group rate. That's what we do.
MA
Massachusetts 2025-2026 Regular Session
Status of Persons with Disabilities Jun 21st, 2026 at 11:00 am
Transcript Highlights:
- The first finding: overall vacancy rates vary by provider.
- The overall vacancy rate declined from 19% in 2024 to 15% in 2025.
- The staff vacancy rate decreased in every program.
- LPNs have consistently had the highest vacancy rate, which is now at 28%.
- The direct support professional vacancy rate of 15% is much improved from 2024... ...vacancy rate of
Summary:
The Workforce Support Subcommittee of the Status of Persons with Disabilities met, approved the prior November minutes, and heard a presentation from the Association of Developmental Disabilities Providers (ADDP) on its 2025 workforce metrics survey. ADDP described its membership and the survey’s scope, noting 102 of 132 members responded. The report showed continued improvement in staffing: overall vacancy rates fell from 19% in 2024 to 15% in 2025, with declines across programs such as adult long-term residential, community-based day supports, supported employment, and day rehabilitation. However, vacancies remain high, especially for licensed practical nurses and clinicians, and nearly 4,000 positions were still unfilled. Providers also reported that almost 1,800 people remain waiting for day services.
A major new focus in the survey was health insurance costs. Nearly 90% of respondents reported premium increases averaging 11%, and providers said those increases make it harder to offer competitive wages and benefits and hurt recruitment and retention. ADDP said the survey will be repeated in the fall and emphasized that while Chapter 257 investments appear to have helped reduce vacancies, rising insurance costs, immigration-related workforce pressures, and other affordability issues could threaten progress. Commissioners and presenters discussed the need to maintain gains, the importance of keeping the survey manageable while preserving historical comparisons, and the role of immigration and workforce policy in staffing stability.
The subcommittee then elected new co-chairs, unanimously approving Rachel Caprillion and Leo Sarkisian. Members discussed possible topics and speakers for the next meeting, including training and turnover, direct support professional pipelines, apprenticeships, PCA training, and workforce models from other states. Several names and organizations were suggested for outreach, including Josh Cutler, Juan Vega, JVS, HSRI, and NASDDDS. The meeting ended with a motion to adjourn, which was seconded and approved.
NM
New Mexico 2026 Regular Session
IC - Legislative Finance Dec 9th, 2025
Transcript Highlights:
- There’s still base rates, enhanced rates, and universal rates.
- We have standard rate, and then those who opt in to an enhanced rate.
- Those are the only two rates we have.” “There’s no longer rates based on quality, star 1 through 5.
- So everything’s standard rate. And then the enhanced rate based on levels of quality.
- We have standard rate, and then those who opt in to an enhanced rate.
Summary:
The committee heard first from LFC staff on a brief about New Mexico’s universal child care expansion. Staff said child care assistance has clear benefits for parents and families, but LFC has not found evidence in New Mexico that it improves children’s educational outcomes; they argued pre-K is the better tool for that goal. The brief highlighted four concerns with universal access: an estimated annual cost of about $849.7 million, a sharp decline in registered homes, possible crowding out of lower-income families, and reduced access for children under age two. Staff also suggested possible mitigations such as prioritizing slots for low-income and at-risk families, reinstating sliding-scale co-pays, and tying quality improvements to workforce wages.
Members raised questions about the cost estimate, funding sources, provider quality, and whether the data showed actual crowding out. Several lawmakers expressed support for child care generally but concern about the fiscal impact and whether universal access would divert resources from the families most in need. Others emphasized the importance of child care for workforce participation, rural communities, and family stability, and questioned how registered homes are counted and regulated. LFC staff clarified that the cost estimate was for child care assistance only, not the entire ECECD budget, and that the data showed declines in the share of lowest-income children and infants/toddlers served, though not causation.
The ECECD secretary then presented the department’s response, saying universal child care is intended to complete a cradle-to-career system and that the department has already seen strong uptake, increased capacity, and rising workforce participation. She said 6,206 families were found eligible in the first month, the share of infants and toddlers served rose, and new provider applications and licensed slots increased after the November rollout. The department also emphasized wage increases, quality improvements, and a new wage scale/career lattice, while projecting a lower near-term cost than LFC’s estimate and requesting additional funding for child care, early pre-K, home visiting, workforce systems, and capacity-building. No votes or formal actions were taken in the portion provided; the discussion was informational and focused on questions and testimony.
FL
Florida 2026 5th Special Session
Joint Committee on Public Counsel Oversight Dec 8th, 2025
Transcript Highlights:
- We are allowed to fully explore these rate cases.
- them whole without having to wait until a new rate case.
- Joe, could not settle the Tico or the Sunshine rate cases.
- We made it a singular issue in the Tico rate case.
- So the Public Service Commission Board approved the rate increase.
Summary:
The Joint Committee on Public Counsel Oversight met with a quorum present and heard an update from Public Counsel Walt Trierweiler on the work of the Office of Public Counsel. Trierweiler described the office’s role in representing Florida utility customers in rate cases and related proceedings, including investor-owned electric, water, and wastewater matters. He emphasized the office’s use of depositions, expert witnesses, customer correspondence, and service hearings to challenge unsupported utility costs while seeking outcomes that are “fair, just, reasonable, and affordable.”
A major focus of the presentation was the office’s work on large utility dockets, especially the Florida Power & Light rate case, as well as other recent cases involving Duke, TECO, Sunshine, and St. Joe. Trierweiler said the office had settled some cases but not others, had two appeals pending, and had filed motions for reconsideration where required. He also discussed storm cost recovery, affordability concerns, and the new challenge of data center tariffs and related energy and water demands. He said the office brought in new experts on affordability and data centers and was trying to get ahead of those issues through workshops and settlement efforts.
Members asked questions about how customer input is gathered, how the office evaluates a fair profit for utilities, the role of settlements and counterproposals, and the impact of data centers on energy and water use. Trierweiler said customer voices come in through hearings and correspondence, that utilities are entitled to a fair return but not imprudent costs, and that the office is concerned about data center growth and its resource demands. No votes were taken, and the committee concluded its agenda and adjourned.
MN
Minnesota 2025 1st Special Session
House Energy Finance and Policy Committee 2/20/25
Energy Finance and Policy
Transcript Highlights:
- Penny than they have to for the rates Penny than they have to for the rates that<00:01:58.640>
important to get the uh rates important to get the uh rates established<00:02:48.760>for - solar facilities retail rate distributed solar facilities retail rate for<00:03:06.519>
a <00: - rather than wholesale market rates.
- rates when we have average retail rates rates when we have average retail rates um<01:41:26.080>
Bills:
HF845
Keywords:
net metering, distributed generation, solar energy, rooftop solar, renewable energy, utility rates, electric cooperatives, municipal utilities, public utilities, Public Utilities Commission, net billing, bill credits, cost of service study, standby charge, qualifying facility, energy policy, clean energy, customer generation, interconnection, Minnesota Statutes 216B.164
FL
Florida 2026 5th Special Session
Ethics and Elections Mar 31st, 2025
Transcript Highlights:
- But I believe it's how we analyze a rate case.
- Do they represent the public's interest in these rate cases?
- And as we look at those programs, we then compare them to rate impact. So what is the rate impact?
- I think every time there is a rate case, there is a modification.
- And throughout the rate case process, there's a request that initially comes in.
Summary:
The Committee on Ethics and Elections met with a quorum present and Senator Polsky excused. The committee first heard Senate Bill 1416 by Senator DeSigley, which would move municipal elections to coincide with the general election and extend incumbent terms until the new election schedule takes effect. Members asked about runoff elections, with the sponsor saying runoffs would likely shift to the August primary and that he was open to further discussion, including possibly eliminating runoffs. The bill drew support from a senator citing potential taxpayer savings, while the Florida League of Cities and Florida Association of Counties were noted as opposed. SB 1416 was reported favorably.
The committee then considered Senate Bill 766 by Senator Burgess, as amended by a strike-all that refocused the bill on agents of “countries of concern” and narrowed disclosure requirements. The sponsor said the measure was intended to increase transparency around foreign-backed political activity and align with federal Foreign Agents Registration Act concepts. The amendment was adopted, and the bill as amended was reported favorably.
Members next heard the reappointment of Mike LaRosa to the Public Service Commission. LaRosa described the PSC’s role regulating investor-owned utilities and emphasized transparency, consumer protection, workforce development, and adapting to new energy technologies such as small modular reactors. Senators questioned him closely about recent Florida Supreme Court criticism of PSC orders as insufficiently reasoned and overly reliant on utility assertions. LaRosa acknowledged the criticism, said PSC procedures and orders had become more detailed, and committed to continued improvement. Despite concerns, his nomination was advanced favorably to the full Senate.
The committee then approved a block of nominations in tabs 4 through 27 without objection and without separate hearings. At the end of the meeting, Senator Grall asked to be recorded as voting in the affirmative on SB 1416 and SB 766, and the committee rose.
FL
Transcript Highlights:
- But I believe it's how we analyze a rate case.
- My hope is, through the rate case process, which is maybe what we hear most about...
- And as we look at those programs, we then compare them to rate impact. So what is the rate impact?
- I think every time there is a rate case, there is a modification.
- Throughout the rate case process, there's a request that initially comes in.
Summary:
The Committee on Ethics and Elections met with a quorum present and first considered SB 1416, which would move municipal elections to coincide with the general election and extend incumbent terms until the new schedule takes effect. Senators discussed whether the bill would affect runoff elections, with the sponsor explaining that runoff timing would shift to the August primary/general election framework. The Florida League of Cities and Florida Association of Counties were noted as opposed, while members cited potential taxpayer savings and the bill was reported favorably.
The committee then took up SB 766, as amended by strike-all, which would require agents of certain “countries of concern” to register with the Division of Elections when engaging in political activity. The amendment narrowed the bill’s focus and aligned terminology with existing state law. After no opposition or debate on the amendment, the committee adopted it and then reported the bill favorably.
Members next heard the reappointment of Mike LaRosa to the Public Service Commission. Questioning focused heavily on PSC transparency, the sufficiency of commission orders, Supreme Court criticism of PSC decisions, storm protection plans, utility rate cases, and how the commission evaluates evidence and consumer impacts. LaRosa said the commission had changed its procedures to produce more detailed orders and more robust discussion, and he described ongoing work on rate cases, public engagement, and emerging energy issues such as small modular reactors. Despite concerns raised, the nomination was reported favorably to the full Senate. The committee then approved a block of additional appointments in tabs 4 through 27, also reporting them favorably.
MN
Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session
House Commerce Finance and Policy Committee 2/18/26
Commerce Finance and Policy
Transcript Highlights:
- So we don't um set the rates. markets. So we don't um set the rates.
- me the rates went up 21% uh, this year. me the rates went up 21% uh, this year. Correct.
- And so when we’re looking at rates, we’re really looking at are the rates actuarially justified.
- as you are again evaluating these rates? as you are again evaluating these rates?
- Um, so when you're looking at those<00:47:14.160>
rates, those rates, those rates, do<00:47:16.160
HI
Hawaii 2025 Regular Session
CPC/CPN Joint Info Briefing - Thu Apr 3, 2025 @ 9:30 AM HST
Hawaii House Floor Meeting
Transcript Highlights:
- HPIA has lowered rates.
- Can we get back to those rates? Stop having lava rates. It's a balance.
- Can we get back to those rates? Stop having lava rates.
- Can we get back to those rates? Stop having lava rates.
- <01:53:59.880>
might <01:54:00.599>be rating the State's bond rating might be rating
MO
Transcript Highlights:
- in, and now I want to put this into the rates.
- So if we do this for the assessors, you would also advocate for a 20-year rate when they're doing rate
- So if we do this for the assessors, you would also advocate for a 20-year rate when they're doing rate
- They pay those rates in their rates that are made. I'm happy to answer any questions.
- Do you know what depreciation schedule your client uses when they're setting rates for rate cases?
TX
Transcript Highlights:
- The cost of that debt, including interest rates, is passed along to the consumer.
- and interest rates.
- HB 2868 does exactly what the rating agencies are looking for.
- Additionally, other states do not have various rate adjustments.
- It is true that the PUC can handle this in individual rate cases. We have...
Bills:
HB551, HB 1281, HB1378, HB1617, HB2868, HB2881, HB3374, HB4439, HB4726, HB4732, HB4878, HB4914, HB4921, HB4958, HB5200, HB5318, HB5360, HB5402, HB5568, HB5573, HB5623, HJR218
Keywords:
political contributions, address privacy, Texas Ethics Commission, election transparency, campaign finance, international organizations, World Health Organization, jurisdiction, state law, enforcement, United Nations, World Economic Forum, attorney general, Texas attorney general, state sovereignty, legal enforcement, Texas Attorney General, electric energy storage, municipal regulation, county regulation
MN
Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session
Committee on Health and Human Services - 02/24/26
Health and Human Services
Transcript Highlights:
- implementation, our payment error rate implementation, our payment error rate reduction,<00:37:57.680
- Um now that COVID error rate was down.
- error rate. error rate. Senator<00:45:02.480>
Adi. Senator Adi. Senator Adi. - those rates um through training.
- Um rate which is a bit of a misnomer.
NH
New Hampshire 2025 Regular Session
Fiscal Committee (12/19/2025)
Transcript Highlights:
- <00:06:42.000>
will approved the overall average rate will approved the overall average rate - higher rates, maker?
- more money available, rates would go up. more money available, rates would go up.
- allocate higher rates, maker? allocate higher rates, maker?
- <00:11:19.839>
as would um overall uh increase rates as would um overall uh increase rates
Summary:
The Fiscal Committee met on December 19, with Senators Long and Lang serving as replacements. The committee approved the November 21 minutes and adopted the consent calendar after removing two Department of Health and Human Services items for separate discussion. It then took up an HHS request involving nursing facility rates, where Nathan White explained that $2.2 million would be transferred from a long-term care Medicaid eligibility contract to the nursing facilities budget. He said the funds would offset an otherwise projected 3.9% average rate decrease and bring the overall average change to zero for the next six months, with rates reset again in July under state law. Members asked about the budget adjustment factor, bed counts, and whether additional funds could raise rates further; White said the factor is statutory, capped at 28.76%, and that more money would lower the factor and increase rates. The committee also corrected a date in the request from February 1, 2025 to February 1, 2026, and approved the item.
The committee next approved another HHS item related to rural health transformation grants. Members confirmed the request covered the full amount applied for this biennium, and asked about the technology component. HHS said the grant is not solely about AI, but about broader technology improvements such as electronic medical records, back-end systems, and tools to improve access and sustainability in underserved areas. The committee approved that item as well.
The Judicial Council then requested funds for contract attorneys providing indigent defense on a fixed-fee basis. The council said current funds had already been exhausted and that the new appropriation would be used immediately. Members questioned the size of the request and the number of people awaiting counsel; the council reported about 150 incarcerated people and about 300 non-incarcerated people waiting for counsel, more than in recent years. It attributed the increase to competition for attorneys, public defender offices closing intake in some locations because of caseload limits, and broader case and court-system changes. One member raised constitutional concerns about delays in counsel for incarcerated defendants. The committee ultimately amended the request downward to $1 million, approved it, and then approved a motion to place several annual financial reports on file and release them to the public when available. The committee also discussed dashboard reporting from HHS, asking for more detail on community mental health center caseloads and budget-reduction information, and HHS agreed to provide more useful monthly detail.
CA
California 2025-2026 Regular Session
Assembly Revenue and Taxation Committee Apr 21st, 2025
Transcript Highlights:
- California already has the highest corporate tax rate in the West, far exceeding the rates of neighboring
- tax rates in the nation.
- Increasing the corporate tax rate when many other states are reducing rates is counterproductive and
- Inflation and insurance rates.
- People are going to get rate cancellations. They're going to get those rate increases.
Summary:
The Assembly Committee on Revenue and Taxation met under suspense-file procedures, with the chair explaining limits on testimony, position letters, and that bills with fiscal impacts of $150,000 or more would generally be sent to suspense rather than voted on immediately. Several bills were pulled from hearing, and a consent calendar of committee bills later passed 4-0. AB 761 by Addis, the only item initially slated for a vote, was ultimately held over to the next hearing.
The committee heard testimony on a series of tax-related proposals. AB 232 would create catastrophe savings accounts for homeowners to save pre-tax money for wildfire, flood, or earthquake-related expenses; it drew support from the Department of Insurance and the California Bankers Association, but was sent to suspense. AB 1443 would exempt tips from state income tax for five years and was supported by the California Restaurant Association and a restaurant owner, but also went to suspense. AB 1435 would provide relief to businesses and property owners facing cleanup and security costs from unauthorized encampments and illegal dumping; it received broad support from business, real estate, trucking, retail, and local government representatives, and was referred to suspense.
The committee also heard AB 1428, which would create a California Affordable Child Care Fund financed by a 0.5% tax on income above $10 million; child care workers and SEIU-backed witnesses supported it, while taxpayer and business groups opposed it as harmful to competitiveness and affordability. AB 691 proposed a tax credit for adopting shelter pets and covering veterinary costs, AB 1219 proposed a middle- and low-income personal income tax cut, AB 1354 proposed a credit for increased homeowners insurance premiums, AB 19 proposed an education savings account/voucher-style program, and AB 567 proposed insurance rate stabilization and related tax/fund changes; each drew testimony for and against where present, but all were referred to suspense. The meeting ended with the committee adjourning after the held-over AB 761 item was postponed.