Transcript Highlights:

• The federal regulations are done in the Federal Register, and there are notices of rulemaking that EPA
• and other federal agencies have to go through.
• regulations are done in the federal register and there's notices of rulemaking that EPA and other federal
• , either directly through the federal register as a response to comments, directly through the federal
• And then there are several terms defined in federal regulations, and we refer to those federal code sections

Summary: The Environment, Energy and Technology Committee met to consider a series of Department of Environmental Quality rule dockets, largely involving incorporation by reference of federal rules and zero-based regulation cleanup. DEQ staff explained the concept of program primacy, the timing of federal rule changes versus Idaho adoption, and why some rules are incorporated by reference rather than written out in full. Members asked about how federal changes are tracked, why the state does not simply reproduce the federal text, and how the agency handles timing gaps when federal rules become effective before Idaho updates its rules. The committee approved the hazardous waste docket, the air quality docket, and two drinking water dockets covering Consumer Confidence Reports and Lead and Copper Rule revisions. It also approved a narrow drinking water pressure-standard correction with an early effective date of sine die, and a water quality standards docket that made administrative updates to align Idaho rules with EPA actions. In the cyanidation docket, DEQ described changes required by Senate Bill 1170 and noted that the temporary rule and pending rule were both before the committee; the committee approved the docket to extend the temporary rule and allow the pending rule to proceed. The committee also approved solid waste rules revised under zero-based regulation, wastewater rules that modernized language and clarified that aquaculture facilities are not subject to municipal wastewater requirements, and loan-fund administration rules that reorganized affordability criteria and disadvantaged-community tiers for SRF assistance. Finally, the committee approved the groundwater quality rule with an exception: Representative Bruce moved to approve it except for sections 003 and 200(01A), arguing that unresolved federal PFAS-related standards should not be incorporated before federal finality. The committee adopted that motion, and the meeting adjourned after a brief member introduction of a wastewater treatment project in the audience.

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• So for hospitals, Based on the federal designation.
• So I think that's a federal issue predominantly.
• So that's a federal issue, That's a federal issue predominantly.
• Actually, that was in the federal.
• Now that might be absurd to the other direction.

Committee: Senate Rules

Keywords: 987, senate, all

Transcript Highlights:

• We navigated the longest federal government shutdown in recent history, alongside...
• You touched on also the federal changes with HR1 and other federal decisions that we're seeing.
• So I'm worried about some of the policies and direction of the federal government, but ready to step
• I believe, from the language, I believe it says it directs them to, so. That they may.
• From the language, I believe it says it directs them to, so that they may...

Summary: The Senate Health and Long-Term Care Committee held confirmation hearings for Ryan Moran to lead the Health Care Authority and Dennis Worsham to serve as Secretary of Health. Moran emphasized his personal background, experience in Maryland Medicaid, and priorities of protecting coverage amid federal changes, addressing health disparities, strengthening tribal partnerships, and improving agency operations. Worsham described his long public health career in Washington, his statewide listening tour, and his focus on collaboration, science-based decision-making, accountability, workforce support, and rebuilding public trust. Senators raised questions about behavioral health, social determinants of health, communication, misinformation, and the impact of federal policy changes; both nominees said Washington should continue leading on coverage, prevention, and public health resilience. In executive session, the committee advanced several bills. It passed SB 5899, allowing qualified chiropractors to perform chiropractic diagnosis and adjustments on animals; SB 6292, creating a joint legislative-executive committee on health care financing with a substitute; SB 6182, establishing an abortion savings program, after rejecting several Christian-sponsored amendments and adopting a Bateman amendment limiting eligible organizations to DOH-contracted abortion providers or funds; SB 5947, creating the Washington Health Care Board; SJR 8206, proposing a constitutional right to affordable health care; and SB 5933, on overdose mapping information sharing, with a substitute. The committee also recommended confirmation of both gubernatorial appointments. In a second group of bills, the committee passed SB 5823 on patient advocates with a substitute requiring at least one person physically present daily in acute care settings and expanding exemptions for certain hospitals; SB 6210 on the health plan certification process with a substitute; SB 5921 on psilocybin; SB 6226 protecting audiologists’ clinical autonomy with a substitute; and SB 5924 expanding pharmacists’ prescriptive authority with a substitute. Members discussed access, affordability, rural workforce shortages, and patient safety, and the committee adjourned after completing its agenda.

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• Direct that question to our LFO.
• We don't control water management decisions that can have a direct impact from the federal government
• The agency has received a direct federal appropriation of $2 million to carry out two projects in the
• The agency has received a direct federal appropriation of $2 million to carry out two projects in the
• The Federal Highway Administration's Federal Lands Access Program supplements local resources to improve

Summary: The Emergency Board approved a series of consent federal grant applications from the Natural Resources and Public Safety subcommittees, along with several budget and position requests. The board approved grant applications for parks, transportation, judicial, emergency management, higher education, school nutrition, and other programs, including retroactive approvals where deadlines had passed. One member objected to the Natural Resources consent grants over concerns about future funding needs, but the motion still passed. The board also approved a one-time increase for Judicial Department court security, including digital privacy protections, circuit court security, and a statewide facilities assessment. A major discussion centered on Southern Oregon University’s financial stability. The Higher Education Coordinating Commission reported on SOU’s structural deficits, declining enrollment, and projected cash shortfall. The subcommittee recommended, and the board approved, allocating $7.5 million from the special appropriation for short-term stability, with a required update at the September 2026 Emergency Board meeting and a future request for the remaining funds. Members debated the broader crisis in higher education, with several saying SOU’s situation reflects systemwide enrollment and funding pressures and that long-term restructuring will be needed. The board also approved an AmeriCorps volunteer generation grant, an apprenticeship expansion grant, and a Department of Education nutrition equipment grant. In public safety, it approved funding for Oregon Military Department readiness facilities, a statewide evacuation planning tool, and a juvenile justice information system modernization report, while requiring a follow-up viability report. The Department of Justice received approval for additional antitrust positions and expenditure limitation, though several members raised concerns about the funding structure and incentives tied to settlement revenues; the motion passed despite objections. In natural resources, the board approved funding for the Water Resources Department’s well abandonment, repair and replacement grants, an assistant water master position in Washington County, groundwater data collection in the Lower Umatilla Basin, a wetlands remote sensing pilot, and parks-related grant applications for operations, maintenance, and capital improvements. Members generally supported the requests but raised concerns about geographic equity, long-term sustainability, and whether some county responsibilities were being shifted to the state. The meeting also included discussion of a Department of Emergency Management evacuation tool as an urgent wildfire preparedness measure, with members emphasizing its potential to save lives.

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• As an employment lawyer, I will say there are a lot of instances where state or federal law require you
• Larson, I'm just curious, does this rule—do we need this in order to maintain federal funding on some
• Yes, that was my next question, if you knew of any federal requirements in that direction.
• Chairman, and it is entirely federal funds, and $22.6 million. Thank you. Any further questions?
• Before you is the Consumer Directed Services Chapter Repeal.

Committee: House Health and Welfare

Keywords: 989, all

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• This is a federally required system, if you will. It's required by federal rule.
• Because this is a federal requirement, and because Medicaid is a joint federal-state partnership program
• Because this is a federal requirement and because Medicaid is a joint federal-state partnership program
• Even though we work with the vendor, we also have that direct relationship with the direct technology
• We have several federal guidelines we have to adhere to, considering these are federal programs.

Summary: The subcommittee heard updates on several major technology modernization efforts, beginning with the Department of Financial Services’ Florida PALM project, which is replacing the state’s decades-old FLAIR accounting system. DFS described PALM as a statewide effort affecting all three branches of government, with cash management already live and the remaining financial management, payroll, and data warehouse components still in development. Officials said the project began in 2014, was restructured after a 2022 legislative pause, and is now being recommended for a go-live delay from January 2026 to July 2026. Members asked about governance, staffing, contract structure, cost growth, and maintenance costs; DFS said the contract is deliverable-based, the current amendment would add a net $2.2 million, and post-go-live maintenance is expected to be about $13 million annually under the current contract through July 2027. The Agency for Health Care Administration then updated the committee on the FX Medicaid enterprise modernization program. AHCA explained that federal CMS directed states to move from monolithic Medicaid systems to a modular approach, leading Florida to procure separate vendors for integration services, data warehouse, unified operations, provider services, and claims processing, with pharmacy benefits still to be procured. Officials said the project has spent about $334 million to date, with most costs federally matched, and requested $189.95 million for the upcoming year. They also highlighted a 2024 special assessment that produced 81 recommendations, most tied to staffing shortages, and said the Legislature added 47 FTEs, with 17 currently filled or being filled. Members asked about governance changes, production status, data access, and future technology maintenance; AHCA said some components are operational, the data warehouse is nearing certification, and the agency is working to keep the system adaptable and nonproprietary. The Department of Children and Families presented its Access modernization project, which is replacing a mainframe-based eligibility system used for SNAP, TANF, Medicaid assistance, and related programs. DCF said the six-year, $205 million project is in its third year and has already delivered a new customer portal with mobile access, multi-factor authentication, and fraud protections, while also building a worker portal, document management, community partner tools, and workload management functions. The agency said it is requesting $36.625 million for the next fiscal year, the same as last year, and emphasized that the project has remained on schedule and on budget by breaking work into smaller modules and using strong vendor and staff support. Members praised the project’s progress and asked about cybersecurity testing and the long delay before modernization began; DCF said security requirements were built in from the outset and that the remaining work will focus on moving staff off the legacy mainframe and modernizing notices and back-end processes.

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• At the federal level, they go through a process.
• In federal court, legislative intent... And thank you, sir.
• About half of the country allows some form of direct sales.
• About half of the country is completely closed to direct sales.
• I understand the 30-day direction.

Committee: Senate Transportation

Keywords: 989, all

Transcript Highlights:

• I mean, if we do direct assistance...
• Under the direct pay grant, or the direct grant, do the funds go to the individual, or do they go to
• </c> pursuant to the federal pursuant to the federal law. law. law.
• </c> drops down to a 25% share by the federal drops down to a 25% share by the federal government<00:
• that to you so much as it not directing that to you so much as it directing<01:00:32.799><c> it</c><

Committee: Joint Public Health and Welfare

Keywords: Public Health and Welfare - Room 216, 21 January, 2026; 3:30 PM, 925, all

Transcript Highlights:

• SNAP benefits currently 100% federally funded.
• As outlined in **H.R. 1**, states can choose to use the Federal Fiscal Year 2025 or Federal Fiscal Year
• Federal payment error rate, when calculating the payment error rate, does the federal take into account
• We are moving in the right direction.
• We have been in talks with the federal government about those waivers.

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• Under the new federal rule, we are expecting forthcoming federal guidance, which may help the administration
• It's a federal, new federal clarification from this administration. Can you help me?
• CMS provided this direction through their review and audit of our quarterly claim for federal funding
• no direct $2 billion investments in Medi-Cal.
• But there still would be a federal drawdown.

Keywords: 987, senate, all

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• assisting in that federal order's enforcement.
• The concurrent resolution would have to identify the federal directive the legislature determines to
• It establishes a process by which the legislature can challenge the constitutionality of a federal directives
• that directive.
• By telling the federal government there will be no federal laws on gun law enforced in Texas on on gun

Committee: Senate State Affairs

Keywords: 1185, senate, all

Transcript Highlights:

• So we have to change that but direction.
• </c> least on the federal level, you know. least on the federal level, you know.
• :04:40.479><c> Washington</c> federal employees aren't in Washington federal employees aren't in Washington
• Again, that's outside of all the federal pressures, though.
• Again, that's outside of all the federal pressures, though.

Keywords: 1187, senate, all

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• </c><00:08:41.080><c> landscape</c> universities uh the federal landscape universities uh the federal
• </c> resolution process regardless of federal resolution process regardless of federal mandates<00:12
• <00:15:58.040><c> Administration</c> Federal Administration Federal Administration many<00:16:00.079>
• Direct admissions creates a direct pipeline to certificate programs, associate degrees, and four-year
• </c> that my high school is a direct that my high school is a direct admission<00:42:56.359><c> High<

Committee: Senate Higher Education

Keywords: 1187, senate, all

Transcript Highlights:

• First, H.R. 1 limits how much students can borrow through the federal Direct Loan Program if they're
• Pro-rating federal Direct Student Loans based on enrollment intensity will also have a major impact.
• More than 21,000 CSU students borrowed federal Direct Loans while enrolled part-time.
• Pro rating federal direct student loans based on enrollment intensity will also have major impact.
• More than 21,000 CSU students borrowed federal direct loans while enrolled part-time.

Summary: The committee first heard updates from the California State University on its turnaround plans for seven campuses with enrollment declines. CSU said overall enrollment has grown for three straight years, but some campuses—especially in Northern California—continue to face structural declines tied to demographics and community college pipelines. The system described campus-specific strategies such as outreach to stopped-out and adult learners, guaranteed admissions, partnerships with community colleges and high schools, expanded high-demand programs, and cost reductions including hiring freezes, program suspensions, and shared administrative services. The LAO said the plans were reasonable but urged regular reporting so the Legislature can track results. Committee members pressed CSU for ongoing implementation updates, stronger recruiting efforts, and safeguards around AI use; CSU said it would continue regular check-ins and share best practices across campuses. The second item focused on the Bureau for Private Postsecondary Education and its request for a $10 million General Fund appropriation to repay a special fund loan used for litigation costs. DCA and BPPE said the bureau has long had a structural deficit and has already cut positions, streamlined operations, and shifted some costs to the Student Tuition Recovery Fund, but still needs fee increases through the sunset review process. The LAO opposed the General Fund backfill, arguing the bureau can cover near-term costs with its loan, that litigation costs should generally be borne by regulated entities through fees, and that using General Fund money could set a precedent. Finance supported the one-time backfill as a way to avoid larger fee increases on institutions and to isolate the litigation expense from the bureau’s ongoing structural shortfall. Members asked how the bureau would avoid repeating the problem; BPPE said it has updated policies and practices, including disability accommodation procedures and non-discrimination training. The committee then reviewed Cal Grant funding and program updates from CSAC, UC, CSU, and the community colleges. CSAC said the Governor’s budget would increase Cal Grant funding to about $3.2 billion in 2026-27, driven by enrollment growth and higher tuition at UC and CSU, and highlighted efforts to improve payment processing and financial aid data. UC and CSU emphasized that Cal Grants are central to affordability and debt reduction, while also warning that federal changes under H.R. 1 could reduce access to loans and harm graduate and part-time students. Community colleges reported rising aid applications and awards, but said students still face major affordability barriers, especially mixed-status and undocumented students, and asked for more support for aid administration and completion grants. The chair repeatedly asked for data on eligible students who are not receiving Cal Grants and for a phased-in path to implement the Cal Grant Equity Framework; Finance said full implementation would cost hundreds of millions and the state is not currently in a position to fund it. Finally, the committee began discussion of the Middle Class Scholarship Program. CSAC said the program helps low- and middle-income students cover total cost of attendance, not just tuition, and warned that cutting funding by more than half would reduce award coverage from 35% to 17.5% of cost of attendance. CSU and UC said the program is important for reducing student debt and supporting affordability, and CSU noted recent administrative changes have reduced workload and award adjustments. The hearing continued into the next agenda item after these presentations.

Transcript Highlights:

• So the federal regulations are done in the Federal Register, and there's notices of rulemaking that EPA
• and other federal agencies have to go through.
• And so in the Based on links to the federal regulations.
• And then there are several terms defined in federal regulations, and we refer to those federal code sections
• I think that that's the direction it should be going.

Committee: House Environment, Energy and Technology

Keywords: 989, all

Transcript Highlights:

• We combined our advocacy into the Direct Cash Coalition this past fall.
• I'd like to give a little update on the federal picture to see how some of the federal landscape has
• federal government.
• And so the solution is giving folks direct cash when they need it.
• I think we operate our policy goals based on principles of direct cash.

Summary: House Finance heard testimony on two affordable housing bills. House Bill 1859 would expand an existing density bonus for housing on religious organization property by lowering the affordability threshold from 100% to at least 50% affordable units, requiring local policies to implement the bonus upon request, and creating a new state and local sales and use tax exemption for qualifying projects with at least 50% affordable units maintained for 10 years. The sponsor and supporters said the bill would help projects on church-owned land pencil out amid high construction and financing costs, while a county association raised concern that the bill would create an unfunded mandate for local planning departments. Several witnesses also asked that homeownership projects be explicitly included, and staff confirmed the exemption would be administered through an exemption certificate. The committee then moved to House Bill 1717, which would authorize cities and counties to create a local sales and use tax remittance program for affordable housing developments. Staff said the remittance would cover 100% of local taxes paid after project completion, with a 50% affordable housing threshold and 40-year affordability requirement, and the sponsor and local government and housing advocates supported it as a flexible tool to reduce development costs. Testifiers generally backed both bills, with some asking for more flexibility on income targeting and clarification on county-city interactions under HB 1717. No votes were taken; both public hearings were closed and the committee adjourned after a separate work session on the Working Families Tax Credit, where advocates urged broader eligibility, higher benefit amounts, and easier access, and a California researcher described data-linking methods used to improve tax credit take-up.

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• us to draw down more federal dollars.
• This is a federally mandated system.
• Federal law does not allow you to have both SSI and federal foster care benefits; they get offset.
• Program that is able to use federal Title IV-E dollars to provide direct services.
• Federal TANF recovery is a result of...

Keywords: 988, house, all

Transcript Highlights:

• directing 1% of the 6.5% sales tax on fuel to airports throughout WSDOT.
• Only the state excise tax is currently directed to WSDOT's aviation fund.
• We're nine years out of compliance with the Federal Aviation Administration.
• Federal noise regulations do not The federal noise regulations do not take into account the devastating
• improving any patient outcomes or having any direct impact on health care outcomes.

Summary: The committee began with a work session on aircraft fuel taxes, hearing from WSDOT Aviation about the FAA’s aviation fuel tax rules, Washington’s compliance history, and the potential consequences of noncompliance. WSDOT said the state has collected roughly $210 million in aviation fuel taxes since the federal compliance period began, and that FAA has questioned some of the state’s claimed offsets. Members asked about the federal authority behind the rules, who pays the taxes, and whether Boeing is affected. The committee then moved to public hearing on several bills tied to aviation fuel tax revenue. SB 5989 would redirect a small share of state sales and use tax on aircraft fuel to the aeronautics account and require reporting on airport project funding. Supporters, including port, airport, and pilot groups, said it was a measured step toward FAA compliance and airport investment; the bill’s staff summary said it would reduce general fund revenue and increase DOR costs. SB 5898 would redirect hazardous substance, petroleum products, and oil spill-related taxes on aircraft fuel to the aeronautics account. Supporters said it would bring Washington into compliance and help airports, while Ecology, counties, and ports warned it would significantly reduce MTCA and related environmental funding. SB 6240 would create a new noise and air quality mitigation account funded by a portion of hazardous substance tax revenue; airport and aviation groups opposed it as duplicative or noncompliant with FAA rules, while community and environmental advocates from Sea-Tac area cities supported it as a needed mitigation source. The committee also heard SB 6244, which would extend a hazardous substance tax exemption for certain pesticides used in Washington agriculture through 2038. Agricultural and logistics witnesses supported it as important for food security, storage, and competitiveness, and staff said it would have a small revenue loss and administrative cost. SB 6231, a governor-request bill, would repeal the sales tax exemption for data center refurbishments while keeping the exemption for original server equipment; OFM and local government groups supported it as a revenue-raising budget measure, while data center, labor, and business representatives opposed it, warning of lost investment, jobs, and competitiveness. SB 6228 would repeal the preferential B&O rate for prescription drug resellers; OFM supported it as an outdated preference, but pharmacies, wholesalers, and business groups argued the cost would be passed through to pharmacies, hospitals, insurers, and patients and could worsen pharmacy closures. The committee then heard SB 6220, which would narrow and clarify a property tax exemption for nonprofit low-income homeownership property by allowing temporary community use and preserving the exemption when property is transferred to another exempt nonprofit. The sponsor said the bill was intended to let a community land trust host local performances without jeopardizing affordable housing plans. Finally, the committee heard SB 5880, which would allow blood and breath toxicology results to be admissible if tested by ISO/IEC 17025-certified labs, in addition to the state toxicologist process. Seattle’s city attorney supported it as a way to reduce a long toxicology backlog and speed DUI cases, while counties raised concerns about shifting costs to local governments and creating unequal access based on local resources. No votes were taken in the transcript provided.

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• federal level.
• federal level.
• Are you happy with the direction they're going at the federal level?
• </c> federal level? federal level?
• </c> there not be a federal solution? there not be a federal solution?

Keywords: Meeting Start - 00:00 Roll Call – 00:34 KY Chamber of Commerce KY Business Perspectives – 01:50 COT Update on SB4 – 27:16 Adjournment – 48:18, 958, all

Summary: The 2025 Artificial Intelligence Task Force met for its first meeting of the year and heard updates on federal AI policy, state implementation of Senate Bill 4, and the business community’s perspective on AI regulation. Co-chairs noted that federal legislation could affect the task force’s work later in the year, but said Kentucky still has significant issues to study, including energy, land use, education, social media, and children’s engagement with AI. The task force had quorum and no votes were taken. Kate Shanks of the Kentucky Chamber said the business community supports continued discussion but favors a federal approach over a patchwork of state laws. She described the Trump administration’s new AI executive order as emphasizing innovation over regulation, noted the pending federal AI action plan, and discussed congressional action including the Take It Down Act and industry-specific changes to existing laws. She warned that state-by-state AI rules could increase costs and burden businesses, and said the Chamber would prefer incremental, flexible policy that avoids conflict with existing law and limits private rights of action. Members asked about uniform model legislation, education uses of AI, and civil liability; Shanks said a model approach could help avoid fragmentation and that liability should generally be handled through consumer-protection-style enforcement rather than broad litigation. The Commonwealth Office of Technology then reported on implementation of SB 4, saying it has worked with industry, agencies, other states, and vendors to build an AI policy framework now in final review. Officials said an AI Governance Committee has been established and will meet in July, and a draft RFP is being prepared to meet the bill’s tracking and documentation requirements. They said no major implementation challenges have been identified so far, but the impact of pending federal rules remains uncertain. Members also discussed the need to educate students and teachers about AI, with one member emphasizing that schools should teach both how to use AI and how to think critically about information online.

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• by the federal government, and it is audited by the federal OIG.
• by the federal government, and it is audited by the federal OIG.
• </c> the federal OIG report in front of us. the federal OIG report in front of us.
• </c> federal government. Thank you. federal government. Thank you.

Keywords: 919, house, all

Summary: The subcommittee met on May 8, 2026, to narrow 12 proposed Legislative Audit Commission evaluation topics down to 8-10 semi-finalists for a legislative survey. Deputy Legislative Auditor Jodi Munson Rodriguez reviewed the selection criteria and explained which topics were promising now, which might be better deferred to fall because of timing or data limitations, and which were less promising because OLA would have limited ability to add value. She identified the Board of Behavioral Health and Therapy, DHS Adult Day Services Licensing, DHS county service approvals and provision, MDH mortuary science program, MPCA feedlot permitting, Minnesota paid leave, the Office of Cannabis Management, and several other DHS-related items as candidates, while recommending that DHS system modernization be shifted to an IT audit and that corporate concentration be narrowed substantially if pursued. Members discussed several topics in detail. Representative Lee asked how a broad DHS county services topic could be narrowed and suggested providing legislators with an addendum listing possible subprograms so they would know what they were ranking; Munson Rodriguez said OLA could add a few suggested subtopics and tailor the survey materials. Representative Hansen urged that the MPCA feedlot permitting review focus on effectiveness and environmental and health impacts, not just speed, and Munson Rodriguez said those kinds of questions could be added. The Office of Cannabis Management was viewed as promising but probably too new to evaluate immediately, and the MDH mortuary science program was also seen as worthwhile but potentially delayed because of overlap with other MDH licensing work. The Minnesota research tax credit drew the most extended discussion. Munson Rodriguez said it remained a weak fit for OLA because of limited data and unclear program goals, and Senator Rest argued it would be better handled by the Department of Revenue’s research staff or possibly the Legislative Budget Office’s tax expenditure research section. Representative Lee asked whether OLA’s financial audit division could review whether the credit “pays for itself,” but Munson Rodriguez said that would require econometric analysis outside the financial audit division’s normal work. The committee did not take a formal vote in the portion provided, but the chair indicated the tax credit issue should be brought to the full commission agenda, and the meeting continued with additional topic review, including the Attorney General Medicaid Fraud Control Unit, which staff said was heavily federally controlled and already reviewed by federal OIG, limiting OLA’s likely impact.