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• second largest county in Texas, they work tirelessly to ensure that our communities are served efficiently
• duration of employment of certain state employees, refer to the Committee on Delivery. of government efficiency
• Refer to the Committee on Delivery of government efficiency.
• As optional holidays, I refer to the Committee on Delivery of Government Efficiency.
• applicability of the state agency's administrative rules for the Committee of Delivery of Government Efficiency

Keywords: 1184, house, all

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• number of bills on the first lateral, and we were done before 9:30 tonight, so everybody worked efficiently
• number of bills on the first lateral, and we were done before 9:30 tonight, so everybody worked efficiently
• number of bills on the first lateral, and we were done before 9:30 tonight, so everybody worked efficiently
• ><00:12:52.839> worked 9:30 tonight so everybody worked 9:30 tonight so everybody worked efficiently
• I hope uh all of you enjoy efficiently I hope uh all of you enjoy the<00:12:56.440> 3-day<00:

Keywords: 912, senate, all

Summary: The Senate convened with a quorum present, approved the previous day’s journal, and opened with a moment of contemplation honoring Bob Marley. Several senators spoke about Marley’s life, music, and activism, emphasizing his messages of peace, justice, unity, and resistance. One senator highlighted Marley’s 1979 visit to Hawaii and his influence on Hawaiian and “Jawaiian” music, while another introduced members of the Marley family and recognized their continuing musical work and cultural legacy. The Senate also recognized staff members from one senator’s office during the introductions. After the contemplative remarks and guest introductions, the presiding officer asked for a few minutes for photographs. The chamber then processed Governor’s Message No. 665, withdrawing a nomination to the Campaign Spending Commission, and Governor’s Messages Nos. 666 to 668, transmitting nominations to various boards and commissions. Those messages were referred according to the Order of the Day, and Standing Committee Reports Nos. 480 to 674 were adopted by motion without objection. In announcements, the presiding officer thanked the SMA team and legislative staff for efficient work on a record number of bills during the first lateral, noted the upcoming three-day weekend, and extended birthday wishes to Clerk Carol Taniguchi. The Senate then adjourned by motion until 11:30 a.m. on Tuesday, February 18th.

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• Do you have >> very<00:04:52.960> efficient? >> very efficient?
• >> very efficient? >> No. >> No, I'm good. Thank you. I appreciate it. Sorry.
• We need to have an efficient system. Thank you.
• , but at the same time more efficient, but at the same time maintain<00:32:40.640> crosscheck<
• to have an efficient system. to have an efficient system. >> Thank<00:32:45.200> you.

Keywords: 910, house, all

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• and more resilient Energy efficient and more resilient Energy Solutions<00:21:02.919> right<00
• You know, we keep hearing that solar is becoming more efficient, and I believe it is.
• Panels are becoming more efficient and can better utilize the sun.
• <00:57:32.119> to years to to become more efficient to years to to become more efficient to
• <01:11:58.320> like toward for More Energy Efficiency like toward for More Energy Efficiency

Keywords: 1183, house

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• It is in efficiency.
• We at the Court of Appeals are lean, and we run a fairly efficient body.
• We are so efficient. We don't need that many slides. I'm back. I'm Dave Thompson.
• We have looked at ways to use our money more efficiently.
• Increasing their pay helps us with retention and improves efficiencies in the judiciary.

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• AB 2058 promotes the production of more housing in California by increasing efficiency, removing redundancy
• everything that the state has already signed off on, and it has really just added cost and made the efficiencies
• of factory-built housing less efficient.
• of factory-built housing less efficient.
• improvements to basic interior remodels to projects necessary to comply with California's energy efficiency

Keywords: 987, senate, all

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• As we look at some of the agencies of the state, one of the things that we're looking for is efficiency
• , and I'm not hearing efficiency coming out of that office as it is under the State Parks Board.
• I'm not hearing efficiency coming out of that office as it is under the State Parks Board.
• One can argue, how is it more efficient to partially separate a division from its parent agency?
• That's literally creating more government, so that's not very efficient.

Bills: HB2167, HB2168, HB2169, HB2171, HB2790, HB2905, HCM2005

Keywords: attorney general, nuisance action, consumer fraud, damages, civil penalty, public nuisance, nuisance abatement, abatement action, injunction, superior court, county attorney, city attorney, board of supervisors, obscenity, obscene materials, adult materials, pornography, schools, parks, residential district

Summary: The House Committee on Land, Agriculture and Rural Affairs considered several measures related to foreign ownership of land, historic preservation administration, and limits on the Attorney General’s nuisance authority. HCM 2005, urging Congress to study restrictions on property ownership by foreign governments operating under communism or authoritarianism, was amended unsuccessfully and then passed on a 5-3 do-pass recommendation. HB 2171, which would prohibit sales or leases of Arizona real property to persons acting on behalf of China, Russia, Iran, or North Korea and assign enforcement duties to state and county officials, also passed 5-3. HB 2790, which would restructure the State Historic Preservation Office’s reporting and budget process and provide a $1 million appropriation, drew testimony from Arizona State Parks and Trails and the Arizona Preservation Foundation; supporters said it would improve autonomy and efficiency, while critics warned it could create administrative conflicts and affect federal funding. It passed 5-3 after discussion of possible clarifying amendments. The committee then took up three similar bills aimed at curbing the Attorney General’s use of public nuisance actions. HB 2168 would require county board of supervisors approval before the AG could bring such an action in Superior Court; supporters argued it would add local control and protect rural industries, while opponents said it would block needed enforcement and give local officials veto power over statewide concerns. HB 2169 would make the AG liable for defamation per se if a nuisance action is filed without a reasonable basis and publicized; supporters framed it as accountability, while opponents said it would chill enforcement and transparency. HB 2167 would impose damages, attorney fees, lost profits, and treble penalties on the AG for unsuccessful nuisance actions; supporters said it would deter overreach, while opponents said it would intimidate the office and shield powerful corporations. All three bills passed on 5-3 do-pass votes.

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• It's a fund for grants for programs that help reduce and make more efficient our water use. ...chapter
• It's a fund for grants for programs that help reduce and make more efficient our water use.
• It's a fund for grants for programs that help reduce and make more efficient our water use.
• Upgrading and modernizing wells, making sure that those wells are as efficient as they possibly can be
• Upgrading and modernizing wells, making sure that those wells are as efficient as they possibly can be

Keywords: 1182, all

Summary: The Senate Natural Resources Committee was called to order with member and staff introductions, then heard a presentation from the Water Infrastructure Finance Authority (WIFA). Director Chelsea McGuire described WIFA’s core revolving loan programs for clean water and drinking water infrastructure, its rural water supply development fund, its conservation grant fund, and the long-term water augmentation fund. She said WIFA has invested nearly $3 billion over 30 years in water infrastructure, awarded $87.3 million under the rural fund, and allocated about $211 million in conservation grants expected to save 6.6 million acre-feet of water. She also reported that the conservation grant fund is fully allocated and that WIFA is seeking renewed funding support from the legislature. A major focus was the long-term augmentation fund, which WIFA is using to evaluate large-scale water supply projects through a competitive solicitation and due-diligence process. McGuire said 17 proposals were received and seven projects were selected for further development, including desalination, reuse, groundwater storage, and exchange-based supply arrangements involving Arizona, California, and Mexico. She emphasized that the next phase will include public engagement, technical and financial analysis, and input from potential water buyers, and that the projects are intended to address an identified supply gap of 100,000 to 500,000 acre-feet per year over the next 10 to 15 years. Members generally praised WIFA’s work, especially its support for small and rural communities, and asked about public transparency, conservation savings, federal funding for revolving funds, and the cost and timeline of augmentation projects. McGuire said the revolving funds remain financially stable even if federal funding declines, though forgivable-principal grants could be affected. She also said smaller utilities often need staff help to navigate applications and that WIFA is working to make the rural fund’s process more predictable and accessible. Several senators urged the legislature not to cut WIFA’s funding, while McGuire argued that stable state support is needed to keep project costs down and maintain momentum. No votes or formal actions were taken.

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• I want to, first of all, we've, for quite some time, had a financial efficiency review to try to really
• make sure that these systems are being as efficient as they can be.
• Cutting staff, looking at efficiencies, the efficiency review that's a very critical component of this
• are being spent effectively and that we are making sure that these transit systems are operating efficiently
• are being spent effectively and that we are making sure that these transit systems are operating efficiently

Summary: The Assembly Transportation Committee heard SB 63 by Senator Wiener, as amended and coauthored by Senator Arreguín, a Bay Area transit funding measure intended to avert major service cuts at BART, Muni, Caltrain, and AC Transit. The authors said the region faces a fiscal cliff and that without new revenue, BART could collapse and other systems could face severe reductions. They described the bill as the product of extensive negotiations among the five Bay Area counties and transit operators, with San Mateo and Santa Clara counties opting in during the process. Much of the discussion focused on accountability and governance. Supporters said the bill includes some of the strongest oversight provisions in recent memory, including a third-party efficiency review and ad hoc adjudication committees that can withhold a portion of funding if operators fail to correct problems. Assembly Member Papin and Assembly Member Lackey argued the measure amounts to a taxpayer bailout with insufficient representation and too much control left to MTC, while the authors responded that the bill gives affected counties direct complaint and enforcement authority and that MTC must follow the ad hoc committees’ recommendations. Several members asked about complaint procedures, withholding thresholds, opt-in/opt-out issues, and whether the funding would return to the source counties if withheld. Testimony in support came from SPUR, Caltrain, MTC, the Bay Area Council, BART, SamTrans, VTA, San Francisco MTA, transit coalitions, environmental groups, local governments, and labor. Supporters emphasized the risk of severe service cuts, the importance of preserving recent investments such as Caltrain electrification, and the need for regional self-help. There was no registered opposition witness, though some members spoke against the bill. The committee ultimately voted 11-5 to pass SB 63 as amended to the floor, with the committee amendments also removing urgency language.

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• “Yeah, I, first of all, are these individual bedrooms, I would like to see them perceived as efficiency
• I want to be real clear that we have not designed anything, really...” perceived as efficiency apartments
• And all of the efficiency apartments, or bedrooms as you call them, would need to have separate bathrooms
• What did you have for the projected square footage of the, quote, bedroom efficiency apartment, whatever
• They're trying to make the systems more efficient, more accountable, and of higher quality.

Bills: SB2015

Keywords: corrections, rehabilitation, prison budget, department of corrections, adult services, youth services, correctional facilities, Heart River correctional center, Missouri River correctional center, James River correctional center, minimum security facility, county jails, regional jails, deferred maintenance, capital construction, strategic investment and improvements fund, Bank of North Dakota, line of credit, tasers, body cameras

Summary: The Senate Appropriations Human Resources division met with a quorum and spent much of the meeting on a proposed “medical home” concept for people with significant disabilities and medical needs. Matt Schwartz described the need for small, community-based homes so adults like his daughter could live in a least-restrictive setting without losing housing if service providers change. Architect Jeff Eubel presented a conceptual budget for one roughly 5,000-square-foot facility for four residents, explaining that the design would likely include four large sleeping units, common space, support areas, and medical infrastructure such as emergency power, oxygen, sprinklers, and accessibility features. Committee members and George Sink, joining by phone, raised questions about layout, zoning, ownership, staffing, and whether families would actually move loved ones into such facilities if they were far from home. The department said the concept was not in the governor’s budget and identified staff who could continue discussions; the committee did not take final action and instead discussed refining the language with interested members. The committee then turned to amendments related to long-term care and behavioral health funding. One amendment would reduce a planned $4 million general fund incentive payment and instead create a withhold-based quality program for nursing facilities, to be developed collaboratively by the department and providers and reported to Legislative Management by September 2026. The department said it could live with the language but preferred the governor’s timing; several senators questioned whether the committee should be directing an operational policy change and whether the study would simply delay implementation. No vote was taken, and the amendment was set aside for later consideration. A second amendment would clarify use of an existing $2 million general fund item for behavioral health services in nursing homes and basic care facilities, directing it toward training, technical assistance, consultation, and direct patient care for residents with medically based behavioral health disorders. Members noted the funding was already in the bill and discussed it in the context of other budget items, but again deferred action. The committee also clarified that a separate $750,000 juvenile justice diversion appropriation in House Bill 1425 was distinct from a similar amount in the budget and should likely remain in that separate bill. The chair indicated a goal of having amendments ready by the end of the week, and the committee recessed without final votes on the discussed items.

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• We're seeking efficiencies, but clearly we needed to do something because the 2030 plan I've been hearing
• So this is the coordination, the efficiencies, the innovations that when we work together can achieve
• We don't have to start from scratch to accommodate the efficiencies there as well.
• This is a matter of efficiency; it's our responsibility to ensure that every program that exists to help
• I think this is an easy bill, and we should prioritize efficiency and ease in how we get our services

Bills: HF1837, HF361, HF2725, HF2566, HF2744, HF1685, HF501, HF1889, HF1389

Keywords: state policy, employment, health insurance, fossil designation, public funds, community resources, Capitol Mall, grantmaking, community vitality, livability, funding, healthy aging, aging policy, older adults, seniors, elderly, gerontology, long-term care, assisted living, nursing homes

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• To fund the judicial branch at a level that allows for fair and efficient justice to be done across our
• But for the benefit of the people of Texas. who deserve to see that fair and efficient justice is done
• But the Constitution charges the court to make rules for the efficient and uniform administration of
• How assigning a different judge for each hearing throughout the life of a case promotes the efficient
• Our own procedures promote the efficient administration of justice as best they can, and we're doing

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• Our goal is to retain consumer awareness efficiently so that we are not paying 5 to 25 percent to get
• Our goal is to retain consumer awareness efficiently so that we are not paying 5 to 25 percent to get
• Our goal is to retain consumer awareness efficiently so that we are not paying 5 to 25 percent to get
• More usable and more efficient in the way so, I mean, they actually can help agriculture instead of,
• think that somebody like you could cover perhaps a broader territory if, in fact, there's some efficiency

Summary: The Senate Committee on Agriculture heard an update on the Florida citrus industry from Matt Joyner of Florida Citrus Mutual and Shannon Shepp of the Department of Citrus. Both described the industry’s steep decline over the past two decades due to citrus greening (HLB), hurricanes, freezes, and aging groves, but emphasized ongoing recovery efforts through research, replanting, and new therapies. They highlighted promising tools such as plant growth regulators, protective screens and covers, direct oxytetracycline application, CRISPR-based breeding, and the CRAFT program, which has expanded to more than 10,000 acres of solid-set plantings and over 20,000 acres including resets. Members discussed disaster relief, property tax pressures, grower participation, and the need for assessment relief and other state support. No votes were taken on the citrus presentation. Shepp also outlined the Department of Citrus’s marketing and research role, noting strong consumer demand for Florida orange juice, global advertising efforts, and clinical research tied to health messaging. She said the industry remains a major economic contributor, with thousands of jobs and billions in economic impact, and that the department is working to maintain demand while growers replant and reset groves. Senators asked about the CRAFT program, new grower participation, and how advertising and state policy could help sustain the industry. The committee then received a performance review of the Opa-locka Soil and Water Conservation Districts from David Jahossky of Malden and Jenkins. The review found wide variation among the 49 districts studied, with many lacking recurring revenue, staffing, proper meeting notices, records retention, formal performance goals, and timely financial reports. The report identified nearly 400 recommendations and noted that some districts had already dissolved or were considering dissolution. Senators questioned whether the districts were duplicative of other agencies and whether they still served a useful purpose; the presenter said there was overlap and collaboration but no duplication. A public commenter from Jefferson County argued that local boards still provide trusted, community-based support for producers and help connect them to cost-share and best management practice programs. The chair indicated the review would inform possible legislation to improve or restructure the districts, and the committee adjourned without taking a vote.

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• sister agencies or their one-time federal dollars that our sister agencies aren't able To deliver efficiently
• They frequently lack the efficiency, the size that they need to be able to be self-sufficient, and as
• get some private funds, mostly from Some of the utility companies for weatherization or energy efficiency
• We go in there and we weatherize and make the homes more energy efficient, and it's not just putting
• Efficiency measures.

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• basically more it's it's a efficient basically more it's it's a efficient effic<00:33:01.600>
• And look, we are all on a clock, so we'll do this as effectively and efficiently as we can.
• First on the and efficiently as we can.
• <01:04:36.400> We<01:04:36.640> create do not create efficiency.
• We create do not create efficiency.

Keywords: Meeting Start 00:00:00 Roll Call 00:00:15 HB 1 Discussion 00:02:00 HB 1 Vote 00:15:05 HB 2 Discussion 00:17:20 HB 2 Vote 01:13:20, 958, all

Summary: The committee met on House Bill 1, which would implement Kentucky’s participation in the federal education freedom tax credit program. Sponsors said the bill would allow donors to receive a federal dollar-for-dollar tax credit for contributions to scholarship granting organizations, with no state dollars involved, and that public school districts could potentially create their own SGOs. Members asked about the removal of state tax language in the committee substitute, the meaning of the 11th Amendment waiver, whether SGOs could serve only public school students, and whether data collection could be added. The sponsors said the state tax language was unnecessary because the credit is federal, the waiver would allow federal-court litigation over the act, and a district could establish an SGO if it met federal requirements. The committee adopted the substitute and then reported HB 1 favorably with 16 yes votes, one nay, three pass votes, and one abstention. The committee then took up House Bill 2, an act relating to Medicaid and making an appropriation. The sponsor described the bill as a response to federal HR 1 and to concerns raised by the Medicaid oversight board, saying it would address program integrity, eligibility redeterminations, cost sharing, and managed care organization contracts. He said the bill would require periodic eligibility verification for expansion Medicaid enrollees, add modest cost-sharing for some services to encourage use of primary care over emergency rooms, and strengthen enforcement of MCO contracts, with penalties going into a restricted compliance fund. Members asked about the committee amendment, and the sponsor explained it restored flexibility on the number of MCOs in future procurement rather than locking in a reduction. Members also asked whether the bill had gone before the Medicaid oversight advisory board and whether a fiscal note was available; the sponsor said the board’s recommendations were incorporated and fiscal notes were included in the packet. After discussion, the committee adopted committee amendment one to PHS2 and then adopted PHS2 as amended for consideration. The sponsor continued outlining the bill’s provisions, emphasizing that it applied to the expansion population and was intended to align Kentucky law with federal requirements while improving oversight and accountability.

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• These relate to issues of effectiveness, efficiency, and incidence of the tax, meaning who ends up paying
• So the evaluation it more efficient.
• Component number three requires an assessment of impact and efficiency.
• So to understand impact and efficiency, we looked at income sample data at an aggregate level.
• We did not efficiency or effectiveness.

Keywords: 1187, senate, all

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• Oh, one minute, sorry—one minute, because we’re efficient like that.
• One minute, sorry—one minute, because we’re efficient like that.
• I think overall it's more efficient this way, and it eliminates a lot of redundancy.
• Basically help out with efficiency, correct.
• Basically help out with efficiency, correct.

Keywords: 912, senate, all

Summary: The committee heard several transportation and arts-related measures. HB 307 on special member plates drew written support from Protect Ohana, and HB 531 on a University of Hawaiʻi Cancer Center specialty plate received strong support from the Cancer Center and the American Cancer Society, both emphasizing cancer research, patient care, outreach, and public awareness. HB 706 would require skateboard users under 16 to wear helmets, and HB 1231 would expand red light photo enforcement; both drew support from transportation and safety advocates, while the Judiciary raised concerns about citation volume, staffing, manual processing, and the need for consultation and a phased rollout. The committee also discussed HB 54, which increases penalties for repeated excessive speeding offenses; the Attorney General’s office supported the enforcement rationale and fingerprinting language, while the Public Defender opposed the bill, arguing it adds harsh penalties and jail time despite broader efforts to reduce excessive punishment. For the camera-enforcement bills, the Department of Transportation said the red-light and speed-camera programs would be expanded gradually, with existing intersections converted first and additional locations added over time, and noted that the system would require about $2 million and significant automation for the Judiciary. The Judiciary repeatedly asked for more time, public input on camera locations, and effective dates that would allow staffing and system changes. On HB 1166, which funds the automated speed enforcement program, DOT proposed technical amendments to make the citations non-moving violations and to align the statute with the red-light program; the Judiciary again said it had no position on the policy but needed time and consultation to absorb the workload. HB 235, a North Shore red-light imaging bill, drew similar Judiciary concerns and support from a testifier who said enforcement would improve compliance and reduce crashes. The committee also heard HB 1159 on commercial harbor evacuations, with Hawaii Emergency Management Agency supporting the bill as a way to give harbor masters enforceable authority to order vessels out during emergencies. The discussion focused on whether the measure would affect all commercial harbor users, including smaller fishing vessels, and whether it would conflict with Coast Guard authority; the bill’s proponents said it would let the state enforce orders already issued by the captain of the port and protect cargo lanes during crises. Finally, HB 17 on the Hawaiʻi Community Development Authority was described by HCDA as a housekeeping and structural bill that would update its purposes, allow it to assist other agencies, and replace multiple county boards with a single program reporting to the 17-member board. DHHL supported the bill because of potential transit and infrastructure benefits for Kapolei and nearby homestead developments, and committee members discussed future financing tools such as improvement districts, TIF, and other mechanisms to fund infrastructure early in the development process.

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• that in the letter received from the former Chief Justice, it was pointed out that they need an efficient
• that in the letter received from the former Chief Justice, it was pointed out that they need an efficient
• he points out that we need an efficient he points out that we need an efficient Fair<00:32:14.320
• of handling these cases so efficiency of handling these cases so I'm<00:33:17.440> just<00:33
• <01:01:46.799> and revenues accurately efficiently and revenues accurately efficiently and

Keywords: 928, house, all

Summary: The Fiscal Committee met on January 30, 2025, and first organized itself by electing Senator Jim Gray as vice chair, electing Representative F as clerk, appointing Michael Caine as legislative budget assistant, and adopting the committee’s rules and procedures. The committee also adopted an amendment to the rules allowing audits to be automatically released to the public once placed on the Fiscal Committee agenda, with members discussing that the change would improve transparency and reduce paper handling. The minutes from the November 15, 2024 meeting were approved, with members who were absent abstaining. The committee then worked through a consent calendar and several individual items. It removed or noted withdrawals on a few items, including item 25004 for further discussion, item 25016 withdrawn by the Department of Education, item 257 removed by Representative F, and item 25001 removed under Tab 4. Item 25004, concerning the newborn screening program, prompted testimony from the Department of Health and Human Services explaining that the program is mandatory with an opt-out provision; officials said 99.2% of newborns were screened in 2023, meaning the opt-out rate was under 1%. The committee also approved item 25007, related to DHHS community health workers and telework policy, after hearing that the workers are not placed in schools and that DHHS follows statewide telework policy. On the regular calendar, the committee approved a Department of Administrative Services request to extend the release date for fiscal year 2024 numbers to March 31, and approved a Department of Fish and Game item. It also approved winter maintenance funding for the Department of Transportation after hearing that the $5.7 million request might not last through the winter if additional storms occur; DOT said even a small storm can cost more than $1 million and that crews are dispatched based on road conditions and supervisory judgment. The committee then approved items for the Judicial Council and the Office of Legislative Budget Assistant. The final discussion focused on the Health and Human Services dashboard and the Youth Development Center claims. DHHS acknowledged a data error in the APS client line and said Community Mental Health Center caseload data is still not fully accurate because two centers are undergoing EHR conversions. Members also asked about the low census at the Sununu Youth Development Center and about the process for managing future claims related to the YDC settlement fund. Witnesses from the Attorney General’s office said the fund is handled through a unique arrangement involving DOJ appropriations and judicial branch staff, that current judicial budget cuts are not yet affecting the litigation pace, and that the average resolution so far has been about $500,000, though future claims may vary. No votes were taken on the discussion items beyond the approvals noted above.

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• ,<02:56:52.080> cost-effective,<02:56:52.920> and<02:56:53.040> efficient efficient
• , cost-effective, and efficient efficient, cost-effective, and efficient method<02:56:53.880> of
• So, it was an efficiency thing.
• So, it was it was an efficiency plates. So, it was it was an efficiency thing. thing. thing.
• And and can become extremely efficient.

Keywords: 916, all

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• How do we know that the dollar that goes into the efficiency program is being used efficiently?
• dollar that goes into the efficiency dollar that goes into the efficiency program<00:42:01.440><
• Do program is being used efficiently?
• <00:52:38.640> Um, efficiency than New Hampshire. Um, efficiency than New Hampshire.
• And there's a cost efficiency of them.

Keywords: 1189, house, all