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• In closing, I'll say that we appreciate that this bill acknowledges that local taxes are more aggressive
• In closing, I'll say that we appreciate that this bill acknowledges that local taxes are more aggressive
• In closing, I'll say that we appreciate that this bill acknowledges that local taxes are more aggressive
• In closing, I'll say that we appreciate that this bill acknowledges that local taxes are more aggressive

Summary: The committee took up House File 4906, adopted the H4906A1 amendment, and heard a staff explanation that the bill would create a one-time property tax refund in calendar year 2026 for residential homesteads and the house/garage/1-acre portion of agricultural homesteads. As amended, the bill would appropriate $4 billion in fiscal year 2027, distribute payments based on 2026 property tax due, include a clawback for delinquent taxpayers, and coordinate with existing property tax refund programs so recipients would not receive more than they paid in taxes. House Research also discussed a disagreement with the Department of Revenue over whether the refund would be taxable federally, with House Research suggesting it would likely be treated as a non-taxable recovery of prior taxes. Public testimony was largely opposed. Eric Bernstein of We Make Minnesota argued the proposal was too large, would create a deficit and force future service cuts, and would disproportionately benefit higher-income homeowners. Nan Madden of the Minnesota Budget Project said the bill would create a major budget hole, threaten funding for health care, food support, schools, and other services, and exclude renters and lower-income Minnesotans. Members echoed those concerns, citing impacts on public safety, rural EMS, hospitals, education funding, and equity, while noting that renters and many seniors would receive nothing. Representative Howard questioned whether the bill was a cautious use of state resources, and Representative Norris said it missed the mark for struggling renters. Chair Davids defended the concept as a way to put money back in people’s pockets and said the proposal was scalable and intended to start a discussion. Representative Wiener strongly supported the bill, saying many homeowners and farmers in his district are not wealthy and need relief from property taxes; he said the bill should be even bigger. No vote on final passage was taken in the portion of the meeting provided, and the committee moved on after testimony and member discussion.

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• They were very aggressive and were able to get all their easements and everything else in place.
• Uh they were very<00:15:27.839><c> aggressive</c><00:15:28.160><c> and</c><00:15:28.399><c> were</c><
• 28.560><c> able</c><00:15:28.639><c> to</c><00:15:28.720><c> get</c><00:15:28.880><c> all</c> very aggressive
• and were able to get all very aggressive and were able to get all their<00:15:29.120><c> easements</

Committee: Joint Select Water Committee

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• They were some of the first high-profile cases of the federal administration aggressively arresting legal
• high-profile cases of the federal first high-profile cases of the federal administration<00:14:18.880><c> aggressively
• </c><00:14:19.680><c> arresting</c> administration aggressively arresting administration aggressively

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• "We were very vigorous and we were very aggressive in a certain part of the state trying to make public
• So we were very vigorous and we were very aggressive in a certain part of the state trying to make public
• had once before, and it went away in part for political reasons and in part because we were too aggressive
• , in part driven, as I said, by members of the industry, because they thought we were being too aggressive

Committee: House Special Committee on Intergovernmental Affairs

Summary: The committee heard House Bill 2901, which would reauthorize the joint committee on child abuse and neglect by removing its expiration date. The sponsor described it as a cleanup bill because the committee’s prior sunset had passed, preventing it from formally reporting to the General Assembly. Members discussed whether the bill should include a new sunset date, with the sponsor saying he left that decision to the committee or floor amendment. Testimony and comments emphasized the scale of Missouri’s foster care and abuse-reporting system and the need for the committee’s work to continue; no opposition was offered, and the hearing closed without a vote. House Bill 2288 drew extensive testimony on landfill siting and county authority. The sponsor said the bill would give counties clearer statutory authority to adopt landfill setback rules, using Pettis County’s ordinance as a model, and argued rural counties should have more control over landfill placement. Supporters, including Pettis County officials, said local residents were strongly opposed to a proposed landfill and needed uniform standards and stronger local control. Opponents, including the project developer and a lobbyist, argued the bill’s setbacks were so large they would effectively block new landfills statewide, would be among the strictest in the country, and would hurt waste-disposal capacity, environmental management, and economic development. The hearing ended without a vote. The committee then moved into executive session and voted do pass on House Bills 1752, 2559, 2934, and 2928, and adopted an amendment and substitute before voting do pass House Committee Substitute for House Bill 2108. After returning to public hearing, the committee took up House Bill 351, which would create an independent Motor Vehicle Commission to handle dealer and consumer complaints and related licensing issues currently under the Department of Revenue. The sponsor and supporters said a specialized commission would provide faster, more expert handling of title problems, dealer complaints, and industry changes such as electric vehicles and direct sales models. Opponents questioned the need for a new commission, raised concerns about industry self-regulation, immunity, staffing, and added bureaucracy, and argued the Department of Revenue should instead be improved. Testimony continued with both support and opposition, including manufacturers’ concerns about not having a seat on the commission and arguments that the proposal could affect franchise and market-access issues.

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• They're very aggressive, those young kids, and they fast.
• :04:34.840><c> them</c><00:04:35.440><c> they're</c><00:04:35.720><c> very</c><00:04:36.000><c> aggressive
• </c> watching them they're very aggressive watching them they're very aggressive those<00:04:36.800><

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• You have actuaries that are aggressive.
• of... ...aggressive companies coming in and trying to take market share, again, within that band of
• But if they are conservative or aggressive in that band of reasonableness and honesty, let them... ..
• .or aggressive in that band of reasonableness and honesty, let them compete with each other.
• So we are able to take aggressive enforcement action against those fraudsters while ensuring... ...to

Committee: Senate Business & Commerce

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• Uh, the A3 amendment pushes out some of the dates so they're not so aggressive, and I think it would
• Hansen [member_7921], to your bill as amended. dates uh so they're not so aggressive uh dates uh so they're
• not so aggressive uh and<00:01:21.040><c> I</c><00:01:21.280><c> think</c><00:01:21.360><c> it</c><00
• Ongoing pain can trigger aggressive behavior, elimination outside of the litter box, and biting.
• Ongoing pain can trigger aggressive behavior, elimination outside of the litter box, and biting.

Bills: HF4080 , HF3693 , HF1857 , HF4350

Committee: House Agriculture Finance and Policy

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• said this is a quote: 'This only happens in serious cases where serious trauma has turned kids aggressive
• said this is a quote: 'This only happens in serious cases where serious trauma has turned kids aggressive
• and at times violent kids aggressive and at times violent with<00:24:16.360><c> no</c><00:24:16.559>
• We do have a number of kids that we serve who have very violent behaviors and act out with aggression
• this again I just I want to aggression this again I just I want to make<01:06:00.480><c> sure</c><01

Summary: The committee first took up Senate Bill 85, sponsored by Senator Meredith, which would move the Office of the Ombudsman from the Cabinet for Health and Family Services to the State Auditor’s office and make related cleanup changes. Meredith said the bill grew out of a prior task force and a two-year transition from Senate Bill 48, and he argued the move would create independence, improve access to the ITWIST database, ensure complaints are not lost in the handoff, and add confidentiality protections for whistleblowers. Auditor Allison Ball and her staff said the bill would codify access and procedures after earlier disputes and a court-mediated settlement, and they described the measure as necessary to make the new structure work effectively. Members asked how the Ombudsman would handle complaints and verify services in cases involving waiver recipients and other cabinet services. Ball and her staff said the Ombudsman would investigate complaints, make inquiries, and provide accountability outside the cabinet structure, with timelines and procedures similar to the Auditor’s office. The committee also discussed staffing and whether the office would need more personnel; Ball said the office already had about 100 people but could use more. The bill passed 10-0 with favorable expression. The committee then approved an agency amendment to administrative regulation 922 KAR 1:001490 concerning foster parent background checks. Cabinet staff explained the amendment corrected a drafting error by removing references to civil determinations in a second section of the regulation because the system cannot search those determinations, while still allowing the required checks under state and federal law. Senator Herron asked what a civil determination meant, and staff said it could involve a court finding in a custody or abuse case, though such findings are now typically handled through the child abuse and neglect registry. The amendment was adopted. Afterward, the committee began a discussion on Kentucky foster children housing and related issues. Ball and Ombudsman staff presented a preliminary assessment of children placed in office buildings, saying the review covered 49 children placed over a four-month period and showed a different picture than the public narrative of only older, high-acuity youth. They reported that some children had no documented behavioral or disability issues, many came directly from home, the average age was 13, the average stay was four nights, and placements were spread across several regions rather than centered only in Louisville. Members raised concerns about the lack of formal policies and procedures, staff safety, and how to ensure children are treated appropriately, and Ball said the Ombudsman was continuing a deeper review. No final action was taken on that discussion in the portion provided.

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• </c> You know, we have been playing Russian roulette with our first responders, and the last thing I

Summary: The committee received an update from Kentucky State Police on the SERVE radio system project, with David Barker and consultant Brandon Marshall explaining progress across multiple phases. They reported that Mayfield PD fire/EMS and Graves County Sheriff are fully operational on the system, Phase 2 is 77% complete with 48 existing sites finished and 13 new sites pending acquisition, and Phase 3A remains funded but not yet complete. They also said router upgrades are complete, radio dispatch positions and mobile/portable rollout are complete, and microwave replacement is nearly finished, with one remaining site delayed by weather. A major part of the discussion focused on why the project has taken so long and why equipment is being purchased before some sites are built. KSP said the project began as a radio system upgrade but expanded as they discovered additional infrastructure needs, including routers and microwave links that were not in the original scope. They explained that equipment must be purchased in advance to match versions and preserve warranty coverage, and that older existing tower sites are being refurbished rather than replaced to make use of existing public-safety infrastructure. They also said all expenditures are tracked in inventory and accounting records and that the project remains transparent. Members pressed for a master plan and timeline, with Representative Smith arguing the project needs clearer structure and fewer layers of decision-making. KSP acknowledged the need for a timeline, said they had plans but not a full timeline earlier, and stated that if the remaining funding is approved they expect to complete the remaining existing sites and 25 new sites by June 30, 2027. They said 56 new-build sites remain, identified as the yellow-dot sites on the maps, and that some sites may be able to use existing Demar/National Guard tower locations. The committee did not take a vote on the project during this portion of the meeting.

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• Russians agree too. Yet the current president does not call it that.

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• Speaker and gentle lady, it's been an interesting evening, Russian roulette of not knowing what bills

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• LMD because it didn't make sense for them, the how long our hospitals were keeping people on this aggressive
• hospitals were keeping people<01:48:56.080><c> on</c><01:48:56.400><c> this</c><01:48:56.719><c> aggressive
• </c><01:48:57.360><c> medication</c> people on this aggressive medication people on this aggressive medication
• In terms of why hospitals were forcing people on intubation or prescribing remdesivir so aggressively
• </c> prescribing lame dese so aggressively prescribing lame dese so aggressively like<01:54:40.480><c

Summary: The New Hampshire House Special Committee on the COVID Response Efficacy met to continue its fact-finding review of the state’s pandemic response, with the chair restating the committee’s mission and focus on federal guidance, federal funding, emergency use authorization vaccination efforts, long COVID, patient rights, and vaccination policies. The chair said the committee had previously reviewed materials about the U.S. Supreme Court declining to hear a COVID vaccine case and CDC internal emails about vaccine risks, and introduced additional research on CDC testing and communications failures. A large portion of the meeting was devoted to summarizing articles and a recent U.S. Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations report titled *Unmasked: How Biden Health Officials Purposely Turned a Blind Eye Toward COVID-19 Vaccine Safety Signals*. The chair argued that CDC testing and guidance were flawed, citing delayed data publication, confusing guidance, a faulty early COVID test, missed opportunities to study silent spread, and alleged suppression of safety information. The Senate report was described as alleging that FDA and CDC officials knew their surveillance systems could mask vaccine safety signals, that officials discouraged internal analysis from being shared externally, and that newer analytical methods identified multiple statistically significant adverse-event signals. The chair also discussed the V-safe system, VAERS, and claims that federal officials downplayed or concealed adverse-event data. Members and the chair connected these federal issues to New Hampshire, noting changes in the state’s health care landscape since the pandemic, including more urgent care facilities and satellite ERs. The chair suggested New Hampshire should develop independent scientific assessment resources to validate federal information in future emergencies. Representative Wheeler noted that the materials would be entered into the committee record and made available on the House website. No votes were taken; the committee discussed the materials, invited further questions, and indicated that a proposed committee communication would be revisited later after additional supporting information is gathered, with a goal of issuing a statement by the end of June.

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• That's a little aggressive, but we have to start somewhere when we have this conversation about who's
• That's a little aggressive,<00:09:18.880><c> but</c><00:09:19.120><c> we</c><00:09:19.360><c> have</c
• ><00:09:19.440><c> to</c><00:09:19.600><c> start</c> aggressive, but we have to start aggressive, but
• Are they taking the same kind of aggressive action that we took with the law that was named after, I
• </c><00:21:52.720><c> action</c><00:21:53.600><c> that</c> the same kind of aggressive action that the

Bills: HF2254 , HF2302 , HF2502 , HF2315 , HF2475 , HF2086

Committee: Senate Taxes

Keywords: HF2254, Minnesota child credit, baby bonus, child tax credit, income tax, individual income tax, tax relief, newborn, birth credit, family tax credit, tax refund, advance payment, Department of Revenue, taxable year, parenting, families with children, child credit, state regulations, families, taxation

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• I know the Commonwealth has been aggressive in terms of ADUs. So we will look at it. Thank you.
• I know this Commonwealth has been aggressive in terms of ADUs; that has been incorporated, and of course
• Massachusetts competes every day with states that are aggressively pursuing tourism, conventions, and
• It's an aggressive goal over the next five years, but through that we hope to create jobs and opportunity
• It's an aggressive goal over the next five years, but through that we hope to create jobs and opportunity

Committee: Joint Joint Committee on Economic Development and Emerging Technologies

Summary: The committee held a hearing on Governor Healey’s economic development proposal, H. 5386, also referred to as the Mass Winds Act, focused on global investment, talent, innovation, housing, and business competitiveness. Governor Healey, Secretary of Economic Development Eric Paley, and Secretary of Administration and Finance Matt Gorzkowicz described the bill as a response to federal uncertainty and global competition, building on the 2024 Mass Leads Act. They highlighted proposed investments in a Global Mass initiative, including a $50 million innovation access fund and $20 million for sites to help international companies locate or expand in Massachusetts, along with support for AI, quantum, robotics, defense innovation, climate tech, downtown revitalization, and creative/cultural economy projects. They also emphasized measures to lower business costs, including reducing the LLC filing fee, expanding the small business energy tax exemption, and streamlining housing and development rules. Committee members questioned the administration about non-compete reform, AI and data-center infrastructure, housing affordability, and whether the bill would help retain workers and companies in Massachusetts. The governor and secretaries argued that the non-compete changes would restore the original compromise by requiring any alternative to garden leave to be negotiated at separation, and they said the bill’s housing and workforce provisions are intended to help young workers stay in the state. They also said Massachusetts is already investing in AI training, an AI hub, and energy-related planning, while acknowledging that data-center growth will require careful attention to water, electricity, and ratepayer impacts. Several witnesses testified on specific sections. Northeastern University supported the internship tax credit, saying experiential learning helps students gain jobs and remain in Massachusetts. The Latino Empowerment Advisory Council supported the waiver of redundant English testing for internationally trained nurses, saying it would speed entry into the workforce without lowering clinical standards. Russell Beck opposed the non-compete changes, arguing they would undermine the 2018 compromise and could reduce other forms of employee compensation. The Secretary of the Commonwealth’s office opposed the LLC fee reduction, citing revenue loss and fraud concerns. Municipal and regional groups, including the MMA and the Metro Mayors Coalition, supported site plan review codification and downtown/arts investments, while urging continued municipal input. The AFL-CIO asked for trigger language to preserve labor protections if federal law changes, and business and industry witnesses generally supported the bill’s competitiveness and global investment provisions. No votes were taken; the hearing was informational, with written testimony invited after the meeting.

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• risk in this state that up to half of our store forests could be lost if we don't get in there aggressively
• benefits the task force brings, where we have Cal Fire, the Forest Service, and Caltrans working very aggressively
• of the task force brings where we have Cal Fire, the Forest Service, and CalTrans working very aggressively
• We have a very aggressive grant program and perform vegetation management in the form of many shaded
• But I did take on that suggestion, and we reached out to Mercury, being one of the more aggressive insurers

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• That's why I said the five- to seven-year timeline is really aggressive given the 35-year history, and
• for filing 602s for staff misconduct, in the form of room searches, unnecessary and uncalled-for aggressive
• There is constant aggressive behavior from staff, which keeps most IPs in fear, and some don't even know
• left my job assignment that day, I could hear canisters exploding while officers screamed in very aggressive
• Several of the most aggressive officers that day were transferred, yet the majority of them have been

Summary: The Assembly Budget Subcommittee hearing focused on the Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation’s handling of mental health care in prisons and allegations of sexual abuse, retaliation, and excessive force in the state’s women’s facilities. CDCR officials described their PREA-based prevention and response efforts, including training, oversight, body-worn cameras, retaliation follow-up, and partnerships with outside groups. The Office of the Inspector General explained its monitoring role, noting increased authority under SB 1069, but also limited staffing and the ability to monitor only a portion of cases. The Legislative Analyst’s Office added that prison population trends could allow the state to close a prison and save over $100 million, with some savings potentially redirected to prevention or response efforts. Advocates and formerly incarcerated witnesses from Sister Warriors Freedom Coalition and the California Coalition of Women Prisoners testified that meaningful systemic change has not occurred and that retaliation, blocked programming, and unsafe reporting conditions remain widespread. They described alleged barriers to community-based services, forced or coercive treatment concerns involving Suboxone, and the need for survivor-centered reentry support, trauma-informed care, and more independent oversight. Sandra DeAnda gave detailed testimony about alleged staff abuse, retaliation, denial of mental health care, and a large use-of-force incident at Central California Women’s Facility, while Amika Mota and April Grayson urged release or resentencing for survivors housed with their abusers and greater investment in outside programs. Members of the committee pressed CDCR and OIG on accountability, use-of-force standards, criminal referrals, disciplinary outcomes, and whether investigations are completed within statutory timelines. CDCR acknowledged cultural problems at both women’s prisons and said it was retraining staff and working on reforms, while OIG said it had monitored 161 investigations and found most grievance routing appropriate, though some cases had lapsed due to time limits. Later exchanges revealed that CDCR has over 13,500 active cases and 109 investigators, and that some cases have exceeded deadlines, prompting concerns from members about whether the current system can adequately investigate misconduct and impose consequences. No votes were taken.

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• If you can speak more about how aggressive this drug is, and if we're seeing other counties...
• If you can speak more about how aggressive this drug is, and if we're seeing other counterfeit drugs

Committee: All ALC-GAME & FISH/STATE POLICE

Summary: The committee met with representatives from the Arkansas State Crime Lab for what members said was likely the first appearance by the lab before this committee. Lab officials gave an overview of the new crime lab facility now under construction, saying it is on schedule, under budget, and expected to be completed by the end of July next year, with phased move-in beginning around August 1. They explained that the current building is over 40 years old and overcrowded, with caseloads having doubled over the past 20 years, and said the new facility will improve workflow, add morgue capacity, and allow new technologies and equipment to be brought online. Members asked about staffing and recruitment, and the lab said recent pay changes and legislative support have made Arkansas more competitive for forensic specialists and medical examiners. Officials said vacancies have been reduced, a new deputy chief medical examiner has been hired, two more medical examiners are starting in August, and a new fellowship program has already attracted applicants. They also said the lab is prepared for the staffing needs of the new facility and that training periods remain long for many analyst positions. The discussion also covered rapid DNA, CODIS, sexual assault kit processing, genetic genealogy, and overdose-related data sharing. The lab said rapid DNA is in final testing with pilot agencies in Faulkner and Saline counties and could go live by the end of July, which would make Arkansas among the first states to do so. Officials described CODIS as a key investigative tool, said DNA profiles are entered automatically when they qualify, and reported that the sexual assault kit backlog has been cleared with the lab now maintaining a 60-day turnaround. They also confirmed Arkansas uses a kit-tracking system, works with private labs such as Othram and Bode for genetic genealogy, and is developing an overdose dashboard to share toxicology and overdose data with public health and law enforcement partners. Members praised the lab’s progress and the committee adjourned after announcing an August site visit to Lake Conway and the dam project.

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• If you can speak more about how aggressive this drug is, and if we’re seeing other counties...”
• “If you can speak more about how aggressive this drug is, and if we’re seeing other counterfeit drugs

Committee: All ALC-GAME & FISH/STATE POLICE

Summary: The committee met with representatives from the Arkansas State Crime Lab for an update on operations, staffing, technology, and major projects. Crime lab officials said the new facility is on schedule and under budget, with completion expected at the end of July next year and phased move-in beginning around August 1. They described the current building as overcrowded and outdated, and said the new lab will expand workspace, improve workflow, double morgue autopsy tables, and allow new technologies such as 3D firearms microscopy, improved drug testing for emerging synthetic drugs, and enhanced fingerprint visualization. Officials also said the lab has been able to hire positions tied to the 2023 overdose-autopsy law and that recruitment for medical examiners and fellows has improved, including two new medical examiners starting in August and a successful new fellowship program. Members asked about rapid DNA, CODIS, forensic genealogy, sexual assault kit backlogs, and staffing. The lab said rapid DNA is in final testing with Faulkner and Saline counties and could go live by the end of July, which would make Arkansas one of the first states to do so. Officials explained that CODIS is used routinely, with DNA profiles from qualifying cases uploaded automatically and audited regularly, and cited it as a key investigative tool. On forensic genealogy, they said Arkansas currently relies on private labs such as Othram, Bode, and DNA Labs International, and is exploring whether to bring that capability in-house in the future. They reported that the sexual assault kit backlog from around 2016 has been cleared and that the lab is now meeting the statutory 60-day turnaround time, with kits tracked through a barcode-based system for transparency. The committee also discussed overdose data and confidentiality. The lab said a new overdose dashboard is being developed with the Office of State Technology and should go live by the end of the year, using newly available reporting data to help public health and law enforcement target prevention efforts. Members praised a recent law allowing toxicology information to be shared with the state drug director and another law protecting coroner records and toxicology reports from public release during criminal investigations; lab officials said both changes have been very helpful. The meeting ended with no votes or formal actions on the crime lab items, and the chair announced an August site visit to the Lake Conway dam project.

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• If you can speak more about how aggressive this drug is, and if we're seeing other counties...
• If you can speak more about how aggressive this drug is, and if we're seeing other counterfeit drugs

Committee: All ALC-GAME & FISH/STATE POLICE

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• For example, aggressive loan repayment timelines could lead to firms needing to encourage clients to
• For example, aggressive loan repayment timelines could lead to firms needing to encourage clients to

Summary: The Senate Judiciary Committee heard several measures focused on campaign finance, legal ethics, notarization, domestic violence, immigration detention transparency, workplace violence restraining orders, and divorce relief for domestic violence survivors. Senator McNerney presented SJR 18, which condemns Citizens United and urges limits on corporate spending in elections; there was no opposition testimony, and committee members voiced support. Assembly Member Kalra presented AB 2305 to bar private equity, hedge funds, and other corporate lenders from influencing litigation decisions, with support from the Consumer Attorneys of California and other stakeholders; no opposition appeared, and the bill was framed as protecting client-centered legal judgment. Assembly Member Irwin’s AB 1977, sponsored by the Secretary of State, made technical and procedural fixes to the Online Notarization Act to support implementation by 2030, with support from notary groups and no opposition. Assembly Member Rogers’ AB 1657 would allow temporary restraining orders in domestic violence cases without prior notice in certain circumstances, and Assembly Member Lee’s AB 1801 would tighten public notice and hearing requirements for contracts involving private immigration detention facilities; both drew broad support and no opposition. Assembly Member Patel’s AB 2179 would extend electronic filing and remote appearance rules to workplace violence restraining orders, and Assembly Member Hart’s AB 1875 would let courts shorten or waive the six-month divorce waiting period for domestic violence survivors; both were supported and had no opposition testimony. The committee then took formal votes. The consent calendar passed 12-0. SJR 18 passed 10-2. AB 2305 passed 12-0. AB 1801 passed 10-2. AB 1657 passed 12-0. AB 2179 passed 8-0. AB 1875 passed 10-0. AB 1977 passed 8-2. The chair announced the committee would adjourn until the following Tuesday, June 16, at 1:30 p.m.