Transcript Highlights:

• with a phone call to me in the summer. with a phone call to me in the summer.
• We call it moral injury.
• We call it moral injury.
• We call it moral injury.
• DJ, please call All right, very good. DJ, please call the<00:53:46.280> roll.

Keywords: 00:00:00 Call to Order/Roll Call 00:01:10 Discussion of 25RS HB 414 00:44:26 Roll Call Vote on 25RS HB 414 00:50:25 Discussion of 25RS SB 27 00:53:44 Roll Call Vote on 25RS SB 27 00:55:49 Discussion of 25RS SB 93 00:57:57 Roll Call Vote on 25RS SB 93 00:59:29 Discussion of 25RS SB 132 01:37:39 Roll Call Vote on 25RS SB 132 01:40:55 Discussion of 25RS SB 153 01:42:05 Roll Call Vote on 25RS SB 153 01:43:46 Adjournment, 958, all

Summary: The Health Services Committee met with a quorum and took up House Bill 414 with a committee substitute. The bill, described by sponsors and supporters as a continuation of prior maternal-health legislation, was framed as a clarification of medical standards and an effort to improve care for women and families facing complicated pregnancies. Representative Tate, Representative Nemes, Adair Wushar of Kentucky Right to Life, and Dr. Jeff Goldberg of ACOG Kentucky all testified in support, saying the substitute was developed collaboratively to reduce confusion in the law and help physicians provide evidence-based care without fear of criminal penalties. Supporters said the committee substitute was intended to define what is not an abortion under Kentucky law and to spell out medical treatments for conditions such as miscarriage, ectopic pregnancy, molar pregnancy, sepsis, hemorrhage, preeclampsia, premature rupture of membranes, and fetal demise. Dr. Goldberg said current statutes contain significant ambiguity and have created unintended barriers to treating pregnancy complications, including emergency situations, and he gave examples of patients who were delayed or harmed because physicians were uncertain about what the law allowed. Representative Nemes said the measure was the result of unusual cooperation among groups that do not usually agree and described it as a first step toward fixing a discrete problem. Representative Wilner raised concerns that the language could effectively require a patient to be in severe distress before treatment is clearly permitted and that it was too prescriptive about how physicians should manage miscarriages. In response, Dr. Goldberg and the sponsors said the substitute was not perfect, was meant as a short-term solution, and was designed to give doctors more confidence in providing routine, medically necessary care for pregnancy complications. The transcript indicates the committee substitute was adopted, but no final vote on the bill itself is shown in the excerpt.

Keywords: KY LRC YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkLkZVP6ubs, 2026-06-21T07:17:04+00:00, 2.2.24, Data collected via generic collector engine, Meeting Start: 00:00 Roll Call: 00:01 HB 502 Discussion: 00:40 HB 502 Roll Call Vote: 01:40 HB 349 Discussion: 02:20 HB 349 Roll Call Vote: 05:17 HB 176 Discussion: 05:56 HB 176 Roll Call Vote: 09:23 HB 196 Discussion: 11:25 HB 196 Roll Call Vote: 33:41 HB 200 Discussion: 37:51 HB 200 Roll Call Vote: 46:25 HB 391 Discussion: 48:31 HB 391 Roll Call Vote: 49:56, 958, all, 2.2.42, 2.1.47

Keywords: KY LRC YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3pUvupa3mE, 2026-06-21T07:17:01+00:00, 2.2.24, Data collected via generic collector engine, Meeting Start: 00:00 Roll Call: 00:19 HB 248 Discussion: 01:06 HB 248 Roll Call Vote: 02:39 HB 334 Discussion: 04:08 HB 334 Roll Call Vote: 06:46 HB 227 Discussion: 08:21 HB 227 Roll Call Vote: 08:54 HB 668 Discussion: 10:08 HB 668 Roll Call Vote: 15:58 HB 740 Discussion: 17:53 HB 740 Roll Call Vote: 25:41 HB 594 Discussion: 26:55 HB 594 Roll Call Vote: 36:16, 958, all, 2.2.42, 2.1.47

Keywords: KY LRC YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQqQmQPersE, 2026-06-21T07:17:01+00:00, 2.2.24, Data collected via generic collector engine, Meeting Start: 00:00 Roll Call: 00:36 HB 221 Discussion: 01:25 HB 221 Roll Call Vote: 17:42 HB 517 Discussion: 21:50 HB 517 Roll Call Vote: 23:10 HB 283 Discussion: 23:50 HB 283 Roll Call Vote: 24:41 HB 663 Discussion: 25:30 HB 663 Roll Call Vote: 28:52 HB 680 Discussion: 30:47 HB 680 Roll Call Vote: 40:03 HB 277 Discussion: 42:00 HB 277 Roll Call Vote: 48:50, 958, all, 2.2.42, 2.1.47

Keywords: KY LRC YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1-iKcKpxnk, 2026-06-21T07:17:00+00:00, 2.2.24, Data collected via generic collector engine, Meeting Start: 00:00 Roll Call: 00:43 SB 224 Discussion: 01:44 SB 224 Roll Call Vote: 04:03 SB 4 Discussion: 05:13 SB 4 Roll Call Vote: 15:44 HB 351 Discussion: 17:56 HB 351 Roll Call Vote: 20:47 HB 335 Discussion: 21:44 HB 335 Roll Call Vote: 25:28 HB 399 Discussion: 26:27 HB 399 Roll Call Vote: 30:05 HB 453 Discussion: 31:21 HB 453 Roll Call Vote: 35:37, 958, all, 2.2.42, 2.1.47

Transcript Highlights:

• I hereby call this the second meeting of the House Standing Committee on Families and Children to order
• DJ, please call the roll. Representative Bojanowski here. Representative Callaway.
• Oh, sorry, DJ, please call the roll.
• Yes, we already have a motion and a second before we go to roll call.
• <01:04:40.200> the please call the please call the role<01:04:42.359> representative

Keywords: 00:00:00 Call to Order/Roll Call 00:01:20 Discussion of 25RS HB 479 00:03:22 Roll Call Vote on 25RS HB 479 00:04:51 Discussion of 25RS HB 574 00:21:49 Roll Call Vote on 25RS HB 475 00:23:41 Discussion of 25RS HB 291 01:04:38 Roll Call Vote on 25RS HB 291 01:05:42 Adjournment, 958, all

Summary: The House Standing Committee on Families and Children met and first took up House Bill 479, which would require one hour of dementia training for DCBS workers. Representative Derrick Lewis and the Alzheimer’s Association said the bill was a straightforward, bipartisan effort to address dementia awareness and improve worker training, with no fiscal impact. Members spoke in support, including remarks about personal family experiences with dementia and the importance of recognizing symptoms early. The committee voted 11-0 to pass the bill with favorable expression. The committee then heard House Bill 574, the “Baby Maya” child protection bill, sponsored by Representatives Dossett and Lewis. The bill would require reporting when a child is born to a parent who previously had children removed for neglect or abuse, create a rebuttable presumption allowing the Cabinet for Health and Family Services to make an initial safety determination, authorize emergency custody procedures, and name the measure the Baby Maya Law. Sponsors said it was intended to add guardrails after the Baby Maya case and stressed that it would not automatically remove children or add new mandatory-reporter penalties. Members asked about hospital involvement, HIPAA, and information-sharing; the Cabinet commissioner said the agency would be open to better data-sharing with hospitals, but currently has no such system. The bill passed 12-1 with favorable expression. Finally, the committee considered House Bill 291, the Family Preservation and Accountability Act, with a committee substitute. The bill would expand sentencing alternatives for primary caregivers convicted of nonviolent offenses, allowing judges to consider family status and use options such as counseling, parenting classes, and related services. Supporters argued it would keep families together, reduce harm from parental incarceration, and save money; one witness cited a report estimating $4 million in direct incarceration savings and broader economic benefits. Another witness, Amanda Hall, gave emotional testimony about the long-term harm of parental incarceration and said access to help would have been better for her family than prison. The committee adopted the committee substitute and passed the bill 12-1 with favorable expression.

Transcript Highlights:

• Uh we are also changing the 13B process.
• The the inflatables are very process.
• Thomas if I may on the I actually called Thomas if I may on the I actually called Brandon<00:10:
• If not, we have a motion and a second, and I ask the secretary to please call the roll.
• meal calling in Representative McFerson's<00:31:50.960> days.

Keywords: Meeting Start 00:00 Attendance Roll Call 00:01 Legislator Comments 00:42 HB 56 Discussion 02:27 HB 56 Roll Call Vote 12:52 HB 258 Discussion 14:03 HB 258 Roll Call Vote 26:15 HB 281 Discussion 27:41 HB 281 Roll Call Vote 30:14, 958, all

Summary: The committee first handled opening business, including attendance, guest introductions, and a reminder about the 24-hour rule for bill substitutes. Guests were introduced by members, including an intern from California, a county judge-executive, and the committee’s session intern. The committee then took up House Bill 56, presented by Rep. Dan Fister and the Kentucky Department of Agriculture, which would update and clarify several agriculture-related regulatory provisions. HB 56 would require annual inspections and annual inspection tags for amusement rides, exempt certain private-property amusement ride itineraries from the 14-day advance notice requirement, clarify grain program dispute procedures, adjust egg license renewal dates and assessment-fee rules for small producers, and repeal obsolete tobacco and egg marketing board statutes. Members asked about the definition of amusement rides, whether inflatables are covered, and how licensing and inspection work for commercial operators versus private owners. The bill sponsor and agency representative explained that businesses must still register and obtain licenses and permits, while the bill mainly clarifies annual inspection requirements and reduces unnecessary notice burdens. The committee approved HB 56 with favorable expression. The committee next heard House Bill 258, sponsored by Rep. J.T. Payne, which would raise the weight limit for milk transportation on state highways to 90,000 pounds. Supporters, including a dairy farmer and Kentucky Department of Agriculture counsel, said the change would let haulers carry fuller loads, reduce trips, improve efficiency, and help a shrinking dairy industry. Members discussed the current 80,000-pound limit, the 10% variance, possible effects on other industries, and whether the bill sets a precedent; the sponsor said other carveouts already exist in statute. Several members spoke in support, citing the importance of dairy farming and transportation efficiency. HB 258 also received favorable expression. Finally, the committee considered House Bill 281, sponsored by Rep. Robert Duvall, to streamline food service rules for churches and nonprofits that provide meals to homeless shelters and disaster-displaced people. The sponsor said current rules can require industrial-grade kitchens and restaurant-level plumbing for simple food service, and the bill would exempt churches and nonprofits from those requirements while keeping food safety standards in place. The bill had support from groups serving shelters and disaster relief. HB 281 passed with favorable expression as well.

Transcript Highlights:

• DJ, please call the roll.
• DJ, please call the roll. Uh, welcome my new vice chair, Representative Wilson.
• DJ, please call the roll.
• Seeing none, clerk, please call the roll. Representative Bojanowski, yes.
• Seeing none, clerk, please call the roll. Representative Bojanowski, yes.

Keywords: 00:00 Call to Order/Roll Call 01:32 Discussion on 25RS HB 164 10:07 Roll Call Vote on 25RS HB 164 11:30 Discussion on 25RS HB 242 13:09 Roll Call Vote on 25RS HB 242 15:08 Consideration of Referred Administrative Regulations 17:37 Adjournment, 958, all

Summary: The House Standing Committee on Families and Children held its first meeting of 2025, with the chair welcoming new members and Vice Chair Wilson. After roll call, the committee took up House Bill 164, sponsored by Representative Wesley, which concerns an honorary adoption situation. The committee adopted a House committee substitute clarifying that any survivor benefits or inheritance would not go to honorary adoptive parents, and heard emotional testimony from Caitlyn Rollins about fostering and adopting a child who later died before a scheduled adoption date. Members discussed the bill’s purpose as providing closure and ensuring legal parentage is recognized in life and death, while also noting a possible drafting issue about whether all listed conditions must be met. The committee agreed to address that concern through a possible House floor amendment, and HB 164 passed favorably 16-0. The committee then heard House Bill 242, sponsored by Representative Sam, and testimony from child welfare researcher Matthew Walden. The bill is intended to increase transparency in Kentucky’s child welfare system by making program data available to researchers while protecting privacy. With no questions from members, the bill passed the committee favorably by a 16-0 vote. Finally, the committee reviewed referred administrative regulations and considered agency amendment 490 related to adoption assistance and Title IV-E adoption assistance. CHFS representatives explained that the amendment removes a civil determination requirement from certain sections because the cabinet cannot make such determinations and already relies on substantiations and other safety checks. The committee approved the agency amendment by voice vote, then concluded its review of the remaining regulations without further action. The next meeting was announced for February 20, 2025, and the committee adjourned.

Keywords: KY LRC YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqVEQfLavxo, 2026-06-21T07:17:03+00:00, 2.2.24, Data collected via generic collector engine, Meeting Start: 00:00 Roll Call: 01:14 HB 393 Discussion: 02:13 HB 393 Roll Call Vote: 06:35 HB 587 Discussion: 08:08 HB 587 Roll Call Vote: 10:27 HB 534 Discussion: 11:39 HB 534 Roll Call Vote: 21:15 HB 191 Discussion: 22:54 HB 191 Roll Call Vote: 26:58 HB 302 Discussion: 28:12 HB 302 Roll Call Vote: 48:18, 958, all, 2.2.42, 2.1.47

Keywords: KY LRC YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJuI_K_2vPM, 2026-06-21T07:17:03+00:00, 2.2.24, Data collected via generic collector engine, Meeting Start: 00:00 Roll Call: 01:06 HB 551 Discussion: 02:02 HB 551 Roll Call Vote: 22:47 SB 94 Discussion: 24:58 SB 94 Roll Call Vote: 33:46 SB 57 Discussion: 36:07 SB 57 Roll Call Vote: 37:20 SB 58 Discussion: 39:02 SB 58 Roll Call Vote: 40:11 SB 65 Discussion: 41:13 SB 65 Roll Call Vote: 55:02, 958, all, 2.2.42, 2.1.47

Keywords: KY LRC YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN_4fzDDc3k, 2026-06-21T07:17:03+00:00, 2.2.24, Data collected via generic collector engine, Meeting Start: 00:00 Roll Call: 00:41 SB 148 Discussion: 02:29 SB 148 Roll Call Vote: 06:19 HB 188 Discussion: 07:50 HB 188 Roll Call Vote: 12:40 HB 236 Discussion: 14:07 HB 236 Roll Call Vote: 16:25 SB 153 Discussion: 20:27 SB 153 Roll Call Vote: 24:37 SB 263 Discussion: 26:13 SB 263 Roll Call Vote: 28:43, 958, all, 2.2.42, 2.1.47

Keywords: KY LRC YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBtKBxuD3Cw, 2026-06-21T07:17:03+00:00, 2.2.24, Data collected via generic collector engine, Meeting Start: 00:00 Roll Call: 01:02 SB 49 Discussion: 02:03 SB 49 Roll Call Vote: 04:38 SB 70 Discussion: 05:55 SB 70 Roll Call Vote: 07:19 SB 54 Discussion: 08:19 SB 54 Roll Call Vote: 12:18 HB 547 Discussion: 13:22 HB 547 Roll Call Vote: 25:08 HCR 59 Discussion: 30:41 HCR 59 Roll Call Vote: 32:48, 958, all, 2.2.42, 2.1.47

Keywords: KY LRC YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cE7YDAhqtUE, 2026-06-21T07:17:03+00:00, 2.2.24, Data collected via generic collector engine, Meeting Start: 00:00 Roll Call: 00:21 HB 176 Discussion: 01:40 HB 176 Roll Call Vote: 04:53 HB 101 Discussion: 06:02 HB 101 Roll Call Vote: 09:57 HB 156 Discussion: 11:39 HB 156 Roll Call Vote: 13:19 HB 196 Discussion: 14:24 HB 196 Roll Call Vote: 22:26 HB 311 Discussion: 23:32 HB 311 Roll Call Vote: 25:15, 958, all, 2.2.42, 2.1.47

Keywords: KY LRC YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgw1zm_6wjI, 2026-06-21T07:17:01+00:00, 2.2.24, Data collected via generic collector engine, Meeting Start: 00:00 Roll Call: 00:38 HB 597 Discussion: 02:12 HB 597 Roll Call Vote: 06:52 HB 600 Discussion: 07:43 HB 600 Roll Call Vote: 09:28 SR 189 Discussion: 10:21 SR 189 Roll Call Vote: 12:05 SR 197 Discussion: 12:55 SR 197 Roll Call Vote: 14:12 HJR 41 Discussion: 15:00 HJR 41 Roll Call Vote: 15:20, 958, all, 2.2.42, 2.1.47

Keywords: KY LRC YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oat6_biQfh4, 2026-06-21T07:17:00+00:00, 2.2.24, Data collected via generic collector engine, Meeting Start: 00:00 Roll Call: 00:31 HB 43 Discussion: 01:22 HB 43 Roll Call Vote: 03:23 HB 564 Discussion: 05:52 HB 564 Roll Call Vote: 15:16 HB 565 Discussion: 18:38 HB 565 Roll Call Vote: 21:02 HB 186 Discussion: 25:53 HB 186 Roll Call Vote: 28:58 HB 388 Discussion: 30:02 HB 388 Roll Call Vote: 32:30, 958, all, 2.2.42, 2.1.47

Keywords: KY LRC YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd5Cupb1R2s, 2026-06-21T07:17:00+00:00, 2.2.24, Data collected via generic collector engine, Meeting Start: 00:00 Roll Call: 00:09 HB 307 Discussion: 00:52 HB 307 Roll Call Vote: 02:36 HB 370 Discussion: 03:47 HB 370 Roll Call Vote: 06:32 HB 380 Discussion: 07:28 HB 380 Roll Call Vote: 08:32 HB 474 Discussion: 09:07 HB 474 Roll Call Vote: 11:48 SB 298 Discussion: 12:23 SB 298 Roll Call Vote: 17:10, 958, all, 2.2.42, 2.1.47

Keywords: KY LRC YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5yPzLD3ayk, 2026-06-21T07:17:00+00:00, 2.2.24, Data collected via generic collector engine, Meeting Start: 00:00 Roll Call: 01:19 HB 392 Discussion: 02:11 HB 392 Roll Call Vote: 06:20 SB 217 Discussion: 08:05 SB 217 Roll Call Vote: 17:58 SB 341 Discussion: 19:03 SB 341 Roll Call Vote: 21:04 SB 301 Discussion: 21:46 SB 310 Roll Call Vote: 37:58 SB 315 Discussion: 40:10 SB 315 Roll Call Vote: 47:15, 958, all, 2.2.42, 2.1.47

Keywords: KY LRC YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKlLNYQOUFA, 2026-06-21T07:17:00+00:00, 2.2.24, Data collected via generic collector engine, Meeting Start: 00:00 Roll Call: 01:27 HB 277 Discussion: 02:38 HB 277 Roll Call Vote: 16:22 HB 680 Discussion: 18:54 HB 680 Roll Call Vote: 23:49 SB 61 Discussion: 25:10 SB 61 Roll Call Vote: 26:24 SB 83 Discussion: 27:34 SB 83 Roll Call Vote: 43:44 SB 265 Discussion: 46:21 SB 265 Roll Call Vote: 55:14, 958, all, 2.2.42, 2.1.47

Keywords: KY LRC YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sXIZ1rsHd0, 2026-06-21T07:16:57+00:00, 2.2.24, Data collected via generic collector engine, Meeting Start: 00:00 Roll Call: 00:14 HB 179 Discussion: 02:40 HB 179 Roll Call Vote: 04:06 HB 79 Discussion: 05:25 HB 79 Roll Call Vote: 08:59 HB 38 Discussion: 10:22 HB 38 Roll Call Vote: 14:28 HB 24 Discussion: 17:10 HB 24 Roll Call Vote: 19:14 HB 220 Discussion: 20:51 HB 220 Roll Call Vote: 23:08, 958, all, 2.2.42, 2.1.47

Transcript Highlights:

• I hereby call this meeting of the Health Services Committee to order.
• He said he called the Board of Pharmacy and asked how they were supposed to treat this.
• And they walked with that family during the grieving process.
• Much of it is the process that women go through and the families, the grieving process, the fear, having
• Much of it is the process that women go through and the families, the grieving process, the fear, having

Keywords: 00:34 Call to Order/Roll Call 02:09 Discussion of 25RS HB 389 04:05 Roll Call Vote on 25RS HB 389 05:16 Discussion of 25RS HB 501 09:31 Roll Call Vote on 25RS HB 501 10:50 Discussion of 25RS HB 414 (Discussion Only) 42:05 Adjournment, 958, all

Summary: The Health Services Committee met with a quorum and first considered House Bill 389, a cleanup measure related to the CASPER prescription monitoring program. Representative Duval and staff explained that the bill addresses implementation issues the Office of Inspector General encountered and aligns the definition of “practitioner” for in-state and out-of-state providers. The committee took no questions, then approved the bill unanimously and reported it favorably. The committee then heard House Bill 501, which would allow a pharmacist to fill a prescription for a limited period after the prescribing provider has died, so patients can maintain continuity of care. Sponsors and a pharmacist witness said the bill is intended to reduce uncertainty and liability for pharmacists, excludes controlled substances to comply with federal law, and leaves professional judgment with the pharmacist. Members asked about documentation and verification, and the sponsor said the bill applies when the pharmacist knows of the death and that pharmacies would document the situation as they normally do. The committee discussed the issue briefly and passed the bill unanimously with favorable expression. Finally, the committee took up House Bill 414 for discussion only. Representative Tate and Adia Wisher described it as “Love Them Both,” a perinatal palliative care proposal meant to provide wraparound support for women and families facing fatal fetal anomalies or other serious pregnancy complications. Testimony emphasized that the bill would encourage referrals to programs offering medical, emotional, spiritual, financial, and bereavement support, with examples such as Footprints at St. Elizabeth. Members discussed access, referrals, counseling, coverage language, and the role of fathers, and supporters stressed that the services would be optional and intended to broaden support rather than impose penalties. No vote was taken on House Bill 414.