Video & Transcript Research : 'grade levels'
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MN
Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session
Creating the Educator Group Insurance Program (Part 1) 2/26/26
Minnesota House Floor Meeting
Transcript Highlights:
- To enable this work, the amendment defines a mandatory report that will provide district-level data about
- To enable this work, the amendment defines a mandatory report that will provide district-level data about
- In Spring Valley, a sixth-grade teacher at Kingsland Public Schools, with 44 teachers, put it this way
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HI
Hawaii 2025 Regular Session
HED/EDN Joint Public Hearing -Tue Feb 11, 2025 @ 2:00 PM HST
Transcript Highlights:
- level, and so there's this huge gap group.
- You spoke about your work at the federal level.
- out like your work at the federal level out like your work at the federal level have<01:03:34.599
- They can not be allowed to walk in the eighth grade promotion ceremonies.
- <01:09:10.199>
promotion walk in the eighth grade promotion walk in the eighth grade promotion
Summary:
The committee first took up House Bill 707 on the College Savings Program. Members discussed a suggested amendment from the Hawaii State Council on Developmental Disabilities to include the Hawaii ABLE Savings Program. The chair said the Department of the Attorney General advised there was no title problem, so the bill could be broadened to cover both the College Savings Program and the ABLE program. The committee also noted technical, non-substantive changes and a defective date of July 1, 3000 for further discussion. HB 707 HD1 was then voted on and the recommendation to pass with amendments was adopted unanimously by the members present, with two members excused.
The committee then heard House Bill 424, which would provide free breakfast and lunch beginning the next school year to students who currently qualify for free and reduced-price meals. The Department of Education supported the measure, and testimony in favor came from teachers, public health and food security advocates, and several organizations. Supporters described students being denied meals because of unpaid balances, said school meals should not depend on family debt, and argued that the bill would reduce stigma and help hungry students learn. Committee questions focused on meal pricing, the impact of raising prices on families who pay full price, and whether portion sizes could be increased; DOE said breakfast costs less than lunch, full-price students would bear any increase, and portion sizes must follow USDA rules. Hawaiʻi Public Health Institute and Hawaiʻi Children’s Action Network said many families above the free/reduced thresholds still cannot afford meals, citing estimates that the DOE collects about $20 million a year in meal payments and that federal reimbursement totals are much larger.
The committee then heard House Bill 757, the universal free school breakfast and lunch bill. DOE and the Department of Health supported it, and testimony was overwhelmingly in favor from county officials, teachers, students, food banks, advocacy groups, and community organizations. Witnesses argued that universal meals would eliminate stigma, reduce paperwork and debt collection, and ensure students do not fall through the cracks because of income cutoffs, language barriers, or administrative hurdles. Several students from Castle High School described classmates asking for food and families struggling to keep meal accounts funded, while teachers said they regularly see negative meal balance notices and hungry students. Advocates also said the bill is the better equity vehicle because it avoids means testing and reaches students who are not currently receiving meals despite needing them. The hearing on HB 757 was still ongoing at the end of the transcript, and no final vote on that bill was shown.
ND
North Dakota 2025-2026 Regular Session
House Appropriations Apr 7th, 2025 at 08:30 am
Appropriations
Transcript Highlights:
- level, or...?
- Was it sixth-grade or fourth-grade level?
- I think we came up with sixth-grade level, but that would be accurate.
- I think we came up with sixth-grade level, but that would be accurate.
- As far as the sixth-grade reading level, we attempted that.
Summary:
The committee first heard Senate Bill 2265, which would provide the Fargo National Cemetery with up to a $3 million line of credit to help fund improvements such as indoor bathrooms, parking, a family gathering area, an office, a hearse garage, and a veterans gallery. Supporters said the cemetery has expanded rapidly since 2019, has already conducted about 1,000 burials, and needs better facilities for families and the Honor Guard; they also said the project would be subject to federal VA approval and, once completed, would be taken over by the VA. Members raised questions about the project’s cost, timing, funding sources, whether the bill should be a grant instead of a line of credit, and whether a chapel should be specifically included. No vote was taken on SB 2265 during the excerpt.
The committee then took up Senate Bill 2230, which would have the Secretary of State mail active voters a guide on ballot measures at least 45 days before an election, with objective summaries, fiscal impacts, and arguments for and against each measure. Secretary of State Michael Howe said the office already receives many questions about ballot measures and would post the same information online and at polling places, while emphasizing the need to keep the material objective and consistent with election-law restrictions. Members generally supported the idea as a voter-education tool, and the committee adopted a due pass motion on SB 2230 by a 19-0 vote.
Finally, the committee heard Senate Bill 2256, which would provide one-time state support for the NDSU Research and Technology Park in Fargo to expand its role in commercialization, robotics, precision agriculture, and defense-related technology. Park CEO Brenda Weiland explained that the park is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit spun out of NDSU, governed by a board with both university and industry representation, and that the new model is intended to bridge the gap between research and market-ready products without competing directly with private industry. Members asked about ownership, intellectual property, the planned partnership with Carnegie Mellon’s robotics center, and how the park would use the funding; the discussion focused on contracts, licensing, and the park’s intent to build technical capacity and attract companies. The excerpt ends before any vote on SB 2256.
KY
Kentucky 2025 Regular Session
Interim Joint Committee on Families and Children (10-22-25)
Transcript Highlights:
- So, our to level two, level three.
- level out. level out.
- Um, mathematically, I will tell you we're at a fourth grade level. Math is his thing.
- <01:40:40.000>
Math <01:40:40.280>is <01:40:40.440>his at a fourth grade level - Math is his at a fourth grade level.
Summary:
The committee first approved the minutes from its September 24 meeting after a motion and second. It then heard a presentation from New Mexico Early Childhood Education and Care Secretary Elizabeth Gragensky on that state’s early childhood system and planned universal child care rollout. She described how New Mexico consolidated multiple prenatal-to-age-five programs into a cabinet-level department, expanded pre-K to a longer day, and uses a cost model to set reimbursement rates intended to cover true provider costs, including wages, benefits, occupancy, food, and reserves. She also said the state created an Early Childhood Trust Fund and secured a constitutional amendment to dedicate 0.60% of the land grant permanent fund to early care and education, with the department’s budget growing from about $400 million in 2021 to just under $1 billion this year.
Gragensky said families can begin applying for universal child care on November 1, with participation voluntary for both families and providers. She reported that New Mexico is aiming to expand capacity by adding 1,000 registered home providers, 120 group homes, and about 55 more centers, supported in part by a $13 million low-interest loan fund and a request for an additional $20 million. She said the state has seen growth in early childhood professionals, including a 64% increase over the last three to four years, and pointed to reported outcomes such as a 21% increase in literacy and a 75% kindergarten readiness rate, while noting that some measures are new and baseline comparisons are still being developed.
Members asked about the funding sources, provider profitability, workforce development, and measurable outcomes. Gragensky said the program is designed to support provider sustainability through rates tied to true cost and includes allowances for sick leave, vacation, benefits, and reserves. She also said maternal labor force participation is 10% higher than the national rate and attributed that in part to child care access. The committee then moved to a separate presentation by Department for Community Based Services Commissioner Lisa Dennis and Division of Family Support Director Roger McCann on anticipated cuts to TANF and SNAP, beginning with an overview of TANF as a federal block grant with a fixed annual Kentucky allocation of about $180.7 million.
MN
Transcript Highlights:
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pro fund that's a a federal level pro fund that's a a federal level pro program - And what was fascinating to me about the time that I spent there is the level of education and the level
- And what was fascinating to me about the time that I spent there is the level of education and the level
- I got good<01:42:14.080>
grades. - <01:42:23.600>
in where I actually got better grades in where I actually got better grades
Summary:
The Education Finance Committee met on March 3, 2026, approved the minutes from February 26, and then held a lengthy informational hearing on the Minnesota Department of Education’s funding and internal allocation of resources. House fiscal staff walked members through several spreadsheets showing federal, non-general fund, and general fund administrative spending, noting the data was filtered from SWIFT and was not exact. The chair said the discussion was intended to help members understand how MDE is funded and how those funds are used internally, in advance of later budget decisions and a separate upcoming hearing on the Perpich Center.
Commissioner Willie Jett opened by describing MDE’s mission, statewide reach, and FY 2026 budget of about $14.1 billion, most of which flows directly to districts and charter schools for instruction, special education, transportation, nutrition, and operations. He emphasized transparency, accountability, and the department’s role in implementing laws, distributing aid, and supporting schools and students across urban, suburban, and rural communities. He also noted the department serves more than 873,000 pre-K through 12 students in 2,264 schools.
Deputy Commissioner Maren Holden outlined the Office of American Indian Education, the Office of General Counsel, and the Office of Inspector General, highlighting support for American Indian students, legal and rulemaking work, special education dispute resolution, fraud prevention, and student maltreatment investigations. Assistant Commissioner Dr. McCari Traum described the Office of Equity and Engagement, including equity and inclusion training, safe and supportive schools work, public engagement, family outreach, and fraud-prevention coordination. Assistant Commissioner Darren Cordy reviewed nutrition programs, special education services, and the charter center, including free school meals, commodity food distribution, IDEA compliance, and charter school support.
Assistant Commissioner Bobby Bernham then described the Office of Teaching and Learning, including early education, academic standards, instruction and assessment, state library services, expanded learning, and literacy work. He highlighted early childhood alignment efforts, standards development across core subjects, professional learning, and library grants. No votes were taken beyond approval of the prior minutes, and the meeting remained informational, with members expected to ask questions after the presentations.
ND
North Dakota 2026 1st Special Session
Water Topics Overview Committee Jun 10th, 2026 at 09:00 am
Water Topics Overview Committee
Transcript Highlights:
- at the state level.
- I'll go into that a little bit as far as the grade raises go.
- It actually moved its lines earlier with the water levels going up.
- The only thing is we're at a feasibility level.
- The water levels in this particular have been going up since 1957.
NH
New Hampshire 2026 Regular Session
House Environment and Agriculture (02/03/2026)
Environment and Agriculture
Transcript Highlights:
- that the eggs inside are not graded. that the eggs inside are not graded.
- If you do not grade your eggs, put “not graded.” But it does not require that anybody grade eggs.
- If you don’t claim grade, put “not graded.”
- don't claim grade, put not graded. don't claim grade, put not graded.
- cross out the grading on their cartons. cross out the grading on their cartons.
FL
Florida 2026 Regular Session
Appropriations Conference Committee on Pre-K - 12 Education/PreK-12 Jun 5th, 2025
Transcript Highlights:
- for being such an awesome partner in that endeavor to try to resolve as many things as we can at our level
- being the responsibility of the post-secondary institution, that's why we decided to maintain that level
- The curriculum is excellent, but it's being taught to the wrong grade.
- I'm not sure if my school does that or it's a state-level recommendation.
- But it should be taught maybe to a later grade, like 11th or something like that, 12th grade.
Summary:
The conference committee met to discuss the Senate’s second budget offer and its first offer on SB 7030. The chair said the budget proviso and back-of-bill offers were continuing to close out remaining issues, and explained the Senate’s approach to the new academic accelerated option supplement in the FEFP as restoring about 80% of prior weighted FTE funding for acceleration options other than dual enrollment, citing existing statutory requirements and the different cost structure of dual enrollment.
Senator Gates then presented the Senate’s modified SB 7030 offer, saying the bill was intended to address problems tracking roughly 23,000 students moving among public schools, private schools, and homeschooling, and to better ensure funding follows students correctly. He said the offer would preserve key parts of SB 7030 while making changes such as extending the fall application window, delaying some spring-term documentation, modifying background screening requirements, and allowing the commissioner to extend deadlines in extenuating circumstances. The offer also kept the Family Empowerment Scholarship Program as a separate FEFP categorical, expanded the Education Stabilization Fund, created fall and spring application windows, required enrollment cross-checks and student IDs, changed scholarship payments to monthly with front-loaded options, and required scholarship funding organizations to return funds tied to Auditor General FTE audit findings.
A public commenter, a longtime teacher from Daytona Beach, urged that the financial literacy course be taught at a later grade level, such as 11th or 12th grade, and suggested a system of diverse guest speakers in classrooms to encourage more students from underrepresented groups to consider business ownership. No questions were raised from the committee after the Senate offer, and no vote was taken. The vice chair said the House would take the offer back for review, and the chair announced there would likely be one more meeting with a one-hour notice before the meeting adjourned by motion without objection.
MA
Massachusetts 2025-2026 Regular Session
Joint Committee on Tourism, Arts and Cultural Development Jun 21st, 2026 at 01:00 pm
Joint Committee on Tourism, Arts and Cultural Development
Transcript Highlights:
- This law will go a long way to level playing field, free of political interference.
- Librarians' professional duties include selecting grade-level and age-appropriate books in a wide range
- state law ensures that all students will have the right to access a wide array of carefully selected grade-level
- I am also the author of five middle-grade books with LGBTQIA+ themes and characters.
- But the issue is what is appropriate for different age levels and who decides that.
Summary:
The hearing focused on several bills related to access to library materials, including measures addressing book bans and censorship in public and school libraries, as well as legislation on digital library collections and e-book licensing. Committee leaders said testimony would be limited to three minutes and encouraged written submissions. Early testimony from Chair Brian Murray highlighted H. 3595, which would address challenges facing public libraries and digital resource collections by limiting restrictive publisher-library contract terms, protecting patron confidentiality, and creating a special legislative commission to study the issue.
A large number of legislators, librarians, authors, students, publishers, and advocacy groups testified in support of the free expression bills, including H. 3594 and S. 2328, arguing that book challenges in Massachusetts disproportionately target LGBTQ+ and BIPOC titles and that librarians and educators need protection from retaliation and harassment. Witnesses described local incidents of book removals, threats, and pressure campaigns, and several said the bills would create transparent challenge procedures, keep materials available during reviews, and ensure decisions are made by trained professionals rather than political actors. Congresswoman Ayanna Pressley’s office also submitted support, and multiple speakers cited national trends and Massachusetts-specific censorship attempts.
Testimony on the digital access bills emphasized that e-books and audiobooks are essential for readers with disabilities, homebound patrons, students, and others who rely on accessible formats, but that current licensing terms are far more expensive and restrictive than print purchasing. Library representatives said libraries spend millions on digital content, face long wait times for popular titles, and often must repeatedly re-rent the same materials. Legal and library experts supported the proposed commission as a practical step toward fairer licensing and stronger bargaining power for libraries. The hearing ended after extensive testimony; no votes or final committee action were taken in the portion provided.
NM
New Mexico 2025 Regular Session
IC - Legislative Education Study Sep 4th, 2025
Transcript Highlights:
- I am a fourth-grade bilingual teacher for Hatch Valley Public Schools.
- Davalos mentioned at a high level.
- This is particularly to ensure that it's grade-level appropriate and that there is productive struggle
- school, and I'm a fourth grade teacher there.
- It is something that's funded at the school level.
MN
Transcript Highlights:
- It says current 2017 funding levels. Yeah, what would that be?
- It says current 2017 funding levels. Yeah, what would that be?
- Sometimes there are levels of different types of programming that’s offered.
- We currently serve over 400 early childhood to fifth grade students.
- We currently serve over 400 early childhood to fifth grade students.
HI
Transcript Highlights:
- That's a decision that's above my pay grade.
- Uh, as the executive director of ADC says, above her pay grade, and her pay grade is above my pay grade
- If I were, if you were the policy maker, not the mumble jumble, it's above my pay grade.
- Um at the<00:19:50.000>
county <00:19:50.320>level, <00:19:50.640>I <00:19:50.880 - But how many of the lower income levels actually own homes?
Summary:
The committee heard testimony on HB 449 relating to economic development, HB 1006 relating to the Agribusiness Development Corporation, and then began HB 1467 relating to housing resiliency. On HB 449, Director Wayne Enoy of the Hawaii Technology Development Corporation and several business groups, including the Chamber of Commerce and Hawaii Food Industry Association, testified in strong support. They said the measure would help local manufacturers and tech-focused businesses adapt to uncertainty around tariffs and federal funding pauses, diversify Hawaiʻi’s economy, and expand workforce training and apprenticeship efforts tied to innovation and manufacturing.
The bulk of the discussion focused on HB 1006 and proposed agritourism authority for ADC. ADC, the Hawaii Farm Bureau, and other supporters said agritourism can be a value-added tool that helps farmers diversify income while keeping agriculture as the primary use of the land. One testifier opposed the bill’s direction without stronger guardrails, urging that a high percentage of revenue or land use remain tied to actual agricultural production. Committee members questioned ADC and Farm Bureau witnesses about how much land should remain in production, whether agritourism could expand on public lands, how enforcement would work, and whether responsibilities should be shifted from the Department of Agriculture’s marketing functions to ADC. Witnesses said ADC currently has no tenants engaged in agritourism, but would support standards, annual reporting, site visits, and the ability to reclaim land if production requirements are not met.
No votes or final actions were taken in the portion provided. After concluding HB 1006 testimony and questions, the committee moved on to HB 1467 and called the first witness, Luke Meyers, before the transcript ended.
AL
Alabama 2026 1st Special Session
Alabama Senate Education Policy Committee Feb 4th, 2026
Education Policy
Transcript Highlights:
- Baker, I believe Dale County Schools had the highest grade for any county system in the state on the
- When I was 11 years old and in fifth grade, a letter was sent home regarding sex education.
- Thank you. setup for girls like in fourth grade to setup for girls like in fourth grade to come<00:40
- When I was 11 years old and fifth<00:42:18.960>
grade, <00:42:19.599>a <00:42:19.920> - , a letter was sent home by fifth grade, a letter was sent home by regarding<00:42:21.839>
sex
Keywords:
military installations, tall structures, local government, construction approval, wind energy facilities, tobacco regulation, vaping, sales restrictions, youth protection, tobacco compliance, public health, education programs, electronic nicotine delivery systems, judicial compensation, salary adjustments, district attorneys, Judges, local officials, computer science, education reform
MN
Transcript Highlights:
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but a former teacher mostly first grade but a former teacher mostly first grade - with an unre rehearsed fifth grade with an unre rehearsed fifth grade reading<00:58:27.280>
passage - There is a question about to what level should we allow that to occur.
- Now there is a question about to what level should we allow that to occur.
- <01:30:44.199>
of allowed significantly higher levels of allowed significantly higher levels
Keywords:
school calendar, education, school year, Labor Day, state law, school construction, landfill, dump site, closed landfill, contaminated site, pollution control agency, school siting, public school, charter school, environmental health, student safety, brownfield, solid waste, waste disposal site, site contamination
NH
New Hampshire 2025 Regular Session
House Education Policy and Administration (04/23/2025)
Transcript Highlights:
- get a bad grade from this teacher?
- I'm not, uh, I mean we had both our kids attended public schools from first grade through 12th grade.
- I'm not, uh, I mean we had both our kids attended public schools from first grade through 12th grade.
- playing field is not level nor unbiased. playing field is not level nor unbiased.
- That was have to repeat the grade.
Summary:
The committee first heard Senate Bill 102, which would make informational materials about type 1 diabetes available on the Department of Education website. Senator Ward said the bill is intended to help parents, teachers, and school staff recognize early symptoms such as thirst, frequent urination, fatigue, and weight loss so children can be referred for care before they develop diabetic ketoacidosis. He noted that a newer blood test can identify some children at risk earlier than in the past. Members asked how people would be directed to the website, and Ward said the information would be posted online and also distributed in handouts, with school personnel helping spread awareness. He emphasized the bill is informational only and not a diagnostic or treatment tool.
Several supporters testified in favor, including representatives from the Dartmouth Diabetes Link and students with type 1 diabetes who described delayed diagnoses, emergency hospitalizations, and the difficulty of having symptoms misunderstood as stress, athletics, or normal teenage changes. They said the bill could help parents, teachers, and peers recognize warning signs earlier and reduce the risk of life-threatening ketoacidosis. One witness noted that New Hampshire ranks high in childhood type 1 diabetes, and another said even a single person seeing the information could make a difference. A retired diabetes educator and state representative also testified in support. The hearing on SB 102 was then closed.
The committee then opened the hearing on Senate Bill 211, which would require school sports teams to be designated as male, female, or co-ed, bar biological males from female-designated teams and locker rooms, and create a cause of action for violations. Senator Avard said the bill responds to constituent concerns and is meant to protect fairness, safety, and privacy for biological females. In questioning, he said girls could still play on boys’ teams, but boys could not play on girls’ teams, and he said he would be open to changes. Opponents, including an attorney from LGBTQ Legal Advocates and Defenders, argued the bill is substantially the same as a law passed the previous year that was already challenged in federal court and found likely unconstitutional under equal protection and Title IX; they urged the committee to mark it inexpedient to legislate. The transcript cuts off before any committee vote or further action on SB 211.
HI
Hawaii 2025 Regular Session
House Chamber - Thu Mar 20, 2025, 12:00PM HST - Day 36
Hawaii House Floor Meeting
Transcript Highlights:
- She identified Michael May and Mia Rutherford in grade seven, Catalina Perry and Maddox Defe in grade
- Michael May and Mia Rutherford in grade Michael May and Mia Rutherford in grade seven,<00:21:18.799
- Members, please hold your grade 12.
- Trigilus, sixth grade science teacher. Trigilus, sixth grade science teacher.
- students to explore their future aspirations, Miss Clark serves as a mentor to aspiring teachers and as a grade-level
OK
Oklahoma 2026 Regular Session
Senate Legislative Session Mar 17th, 2026 at 09:00 am
Oklahoma Senate Floor Meeting
Transcript Highlights:
- I am in 12th grade at John Marshall High School, and I'm paging for Senator Hicks.
- And I think this just encourages that Engagement at the local district level as well.
- But I think it starts just at the local level with parents engaging their school board.
- through fifth grade.
- I think this is responsible legislation for protection on the broader level.
Bills:
SB1627, SB227, SB366, SB1193, SB1433, SB1450, SB1481, SB1749, SB1810, SB1812, SB1921, SB1948, SB2044, SB2178, SB169, SB1877, HB1409, SB1266, SB1432
Keywords:
criminal code cleanup, duplicate statutes, statutory consolidation, repealer bill, emergency clause, Title 21 crimes, Title 47 DUI, child abuse reporting, child neglect, child sexual abuse material, child pornography, sex offenses, rape, stalking, domestic abuse, domestic violence, human trafficking, sex trafficking, gang-related offense, eluding police
US
US Federal 2025-2026 Regular Session
Business meeting to consider the nomination of Mehmet Oz, of Pennsylvania, to be Administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. Mar 25th, 2025 at 08:30 am
Finance Committee
Transcript Highlights:
- I think it'll help us understand what the right staffing level is.
- I know we talk. about the staffing level here but we don't really know what the right staffing level
- What are the staffing levels we need to do the job?
- I'm not sure I'd give him a very good grade, but you're a Doge guy.
- What kind of grade would you give him for the first couple months?
Keywords:
Social Security, Medicaid, Frank Bisignano, Elon Musk, benefit processing, office closures, public testimony, administration policies, health care, vulnerable populations
Summary:
The committee meeting focused heavily on the nomination of Frank Bisignano as the Commissioner of the Social Security Administration, with intense discussions around the current state of Social Security and its management under the current administration. Members voiced significant concerns regarding potential changes to Social Security and Medicaid, specifically addressing issues such as office closures, delays in benefit processing, and the perceived policies from Elon Musk's association with the administration. Public testimonies highlighted fears that these changes would severely impact the accessibility of benefits for seniors and vulnerable individuals, resulting in a chaotic environment at the SSA. Members expressed a unified opposition to the notion of dismantling these critical programs, emphasizing the long-term implications on their constituents' well-being.
MN
Transcript Highlights:
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student also a mother of a first grade student also a mother of a first grade - We have a large level three population.
- What is the level of detail that's being given potentially to parents?
- What is the level of detail that's being given potentially to parents?
- level how you going to define violence? level how you going to define violence?
FL
Florida 2025 Regular Session
December 10, 2025 - 01:00 PM
Transcript Highlights:
- THE LEVELING OBJECT IS DIFFERENT.
- IN A DIFFERENT LEVEL THAT HAS TO BE A SECONDARY LEVEL OF MONITORING THE RESPONSIBLE USE.
- LEVEL I NO I AI USE LEVEL V EXPLORATION. WOULD LIKE THEM TO USE WHAT LEVEL ARE WE ON?
- LEVEL I NO I AI USE LEVEL V EXPLORATION. WE WOULD SAY WE ARE WRITING THE FIRST DRAFT IN CLASS.
- IT AT THAT LEVEL BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT AT THIS LEVEL, LET'S MEASURE TWICE, CUT ONCE.