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FL

Florida 2025 Regular Session

February 12, 2025 - 03:30 PM

Transcript Highlights:
  • We do have problems regionally, but not to the way I think you’re thinking about it.
  • We do have problems regionally, but not to the way I think you’re thinking about it.
  • I do think that's what you... I do think that's what our study showed.
  • I think it is important.
  • I think that answers Rep.
Summary: The subcommittee met to review agency vacancy reports and agency-requested budget reductions, with Chair Lopez framing the discussion around stewardship of taxpayer dollars, agency efficiency, and whether long-vacant positions should be cut or repurposed. Members were given vacancy summaries and asked to focus on how agencies are functioning with current staffing, which positions are mission critical, and whether some vacancies reflect market pay issues, re-engineering of work, or true excess capacity. The chair also noted that agency heads had been asked to provide follow-up information on current openings, average vacancy duration, mission-critical roles, and reasons for vacancies. The Department of Revenue was the first major agency reviewed because it had the largest number of vacancies. Its leadership said vacancies had improved from pandemic-era highs due to market pay adjustments, but that some areas—especially general tax and audit—still had long-term openings. The department explained that some positions are intentionally frozen while work is restructured, that it hires above minimum salary in some cases to stay competitive, and that it is using automation and process changes to reduce backlogs. Members raised concerns about vacancies outside Leon County, out-of-state auditor positions, salary compression, and whether the department should provide a list of frozen positions and the salaries actually needed to recruit. The Department of Financial Services said its long vacancies were concentrated in risk management, law enforcement, and the general counsel’s office, where salaries and competition from private employers and other agencies make hiring difficult. DFS said it was using outside vendors in some areas, had reduced vacancies in its general counsel office significantly, and was willing to identify positions that could be cut, including some from treasury and OAT. The Department of Business and Professional Regulation reported progress in lowering vacancies through statewide recruiting, centralized legal hiring, automation in service operations, and leadership changes in alcoholic beverages and tobacco; it said one recommended cut could be achieved by combining two half-time positions. The Florida Lottery reported a low vacancy rate, said all positions were critical, and explained its longer onboarding time due to extensive background checks; members discussed sales reps, incentives, and the agency’s field-office structure. The Office of Financial Regulation said many of its vacancies were already in the hiring pipeline, with recent vacancies tied to promotions, a death, and internal moves, and noted that it often serves as a training ground for federal agencies. The Office of Insurance Regulation, which had a high vacancy rate concentrated in Leon County, said it had been reducing vacancies from a much higher level and was still working through hiring and administrative constraints.
AR
Transcript Highlights:
  • So you would think there would be flexibility in it.
  • So you would think there would be flexibility in it.
  • I think they're connected, but I don't think they're the same thing exclusively. Thank you.
  • I think that would be really helpful.
  • I think they understand the question.
Summary: The committee received a lengthy Bureau of Legislative Research presentation on Arkansas academic standards, accountability systems, and adequacy requirements. Staff reviewed how state curriculum and standards have evolved from the 1997 Public Education Act through the 2003 Quality Education Act and the 2017 Educational Support and Accountability Act, including required coursework, standards for accreditation, career and technical education, graduation requirements, and recent additions such as computer science, personal finance, firearm safety, and fetal growth and development instruction. Members asked for a chart comparing the major laws and repeals over time, and staff agreed to provide one. The presentation then turned to federal ESSA requirements and Arkansas’s state accountability system. Staff explained Arkansas’s long-term goals for proficiency, English learner progress, and graduation rates, and reported 2025 ATLAS proficiency results, which remained below the 80% goal across student groups. They also reviewed English learner progress, graduation rates, school support and improvement, and equitable access to educators. Data showed gaps by subgroup and by school poverty/minority concentration, with Title I and high-poverty schools more likely to have emergency/provisional teachers and less experienced staff. Members questioned the lack of recent data for some ESSA measures, including equity labs and school index calculations, and asked staff to follow up with the Department of Education. The committee also discussed NAEP results, ACT scores, and teacher quality measures under the state accountability act. Arkansas’s NAEP performance remained below national averages in fourth- and eighth-grade reading and math, and ACT composite scores and benchmark attainment were also reviewed. Members asked for additional information on historical highs and lows, the number of assessments students take by grade, dropout data, and comparisons with other states. No formal votes were taken; the main action was agreement to request additional information from DESE and to schedule department follow-up at a future meeting.
HI
Transcript Highlights:
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  • dispense medication accordingly I think dispense medication accordingly I think it<01:07:45.880>
  • I think it's a good bill, not because I introduced it, but because I think it has much merit.
  • c><01:33:40.840> that defer this I think and um I think that defer this I think and um I think
Keywords: 910, house, all
Summary: The House Health Committee held its first hearing of 2025, with Chair Greg Takayama and Vice Chair Representative Leoy opening the meeting and outlining housekeeping rules, including a two-minute limit for testifiers and Zoom etiquette. The committee first heard HB 303 on health care preceptors. The Department of Health, Department of Taxation, University of Hawaiʻi, Hawaii State Center for Nursing, and several health care organizations supported the bill, saying the existing preceptor tax credit program has been successful and that expanding eligibility to additional professions and students would help address workforce shortages. In response to questions, the Department of Health said the annual tax credit cap is $1.5 million, about 650 to 670 credits are currently used each year, and the bill applies only to unpaid preceptors. The committee then moved on to HB 441, which would raise cigarette taxes. The Attorney General, Department of Health, University of Hawaiʻi Cancer Center, Hawaii Public Health Institute, American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network, and others supported the measure as a way to reduce smoking, especially among youth, and to support tobacco control and cancer-related programs. Opponents, including the Taxpayers Protection Alliance and the Cigar Association of Hawaii, argued the tax is regressive and unreliable as a revenue source. The Department of Health noted the last cigarette tax increase was in 2011, and one witness urged a larger increase than proposed. No vote was taken on either bill in the portion of the hearing provided. The committee also heard HB 557 on telehealth. The Department of Health supported the bill so long as it did not displace executive budget priorities, and the Hawaii State Health Planning and Development Agency and Hawaii Primary Care Association supported it. HPCA said the bill would conform state insurance law to recent Medicare changes expanding audio-only telehealth coverage beyond mental health services, and it emphasized access for rural residents, kupuna, and people with disabilities. HMSA opposed the bill as written, saying it strayed from the intent of Act 107 and that audio-only telehealth should remain limited because of quality-of-care concerns, though it supported continued access and asked for a different amendment approach. A telehealth provider also testified that payment disparities limit provider expansion and that audio-only access remains important for patients with serious illness. The hearing ended in the excerpt before any committee action or vote on HB 557.
MA

Massachusetts 2025-2026 Regular Session

Joint Committee on Higher Education Jun 21st, 2026 at 01:00 pm

Joint Committee on Higher Education

Transcript Highlights:
  • I think we should go to Rutgers.
  • So I think that's—and I guess I think that's the K-12 aspect that kind of needs to maybe there's a little
  • I think that's what I'm saying.
  • I think I don't address this... ...with the limitations of the bill, actually, I think the bill as it's
  • I think we all agree with that.
Keywords: 995, all
Summary: The Joint Committee on Higher Education held its fourth public hearing, opening with remarks about the importance of protecting and expanding access to higher education amid federal disinvestment. The chairs also announced future informational hearings on the impact of federal cuts and on ASAP models. The hearing then focused on several bills, beginning with S. 951/H. 1462, An Act to Support College Students in Recovery, which would require recovery-focused housing on public campuses and expand naloxone access and overdose training. Senator Rausch, medical professionals, students, and advocates testified in support, emphasizing the prevalence of overdose risk among college students, the value of recovery housing, and the need for campus naloxone; committee members asked about implementation details and the existing state pilot program. Deb Schmill and Rep. Tarski gave especially personal testimony in favor of the bill, and the committee discussed broadening the naloxone language to opioid reversal agents. The committee also heard testimony on H. 1461, which would expand MassReconnect scholarships to practical nursing students at vocational and technical schools to help address the long-term care workforce shortage. Rep. Stanley argued that vocational schools graduate more practical nursing students than community colleges and serve many low-income students in areas without nearby community college programs. The committee then took up H. 1433, which would require public higher education institutions to accept IEPs and 504 plans as sufficient documentation for disability accommodations. Advocates from the National Center for Learning Disabilities described the high cost and burden of repeat testing, the lifelong nature of disabilities, and the need for more uniform access across campuses; committee members raised questions about documentation freshness, campus autonomy, and how to preserve the integrity of accommodations. Later, the committee heard S. 919/H. 1454 on modernizing the Community College Endowment Match Program so community colleges could receive state matching funds for current-use donations as well as endowments and capital gifts. Community college foundation leaders said the change would help fund immediate student needs such as food pantries, child care, emergency aid, and equipment. The hearing then moved to faculty-related bills: S. 933 on UMass faculty rights and tenure transparency, S. 930/H. 3948 on contingent faculty rights and career advancement, and S. 940/H. 1429 on an Adjunct Bill of Rights. Testimony from faculty and union representatives focused on low pay, lack of benefits, job insecurity, and the need for clearer pathways to full-time positions and fairer treatment for adjuncts who teach large shares of courses. No votes were taken during the hearing; the committee primarily received testimony and asked clarifying questions.
MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

School safety facility grant 2/24/26

Minnesota House Floor Meeting

Transcript Highlights:
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  • I think it's in everybody's heart here.
  • I think this is really offices.
  • And I think we all can agree on that. I think we all can work on this.
  • We just think we all can work on this.
Keywords: 919, house, all
Summary: The committee heard House File 3492, which would create a $25 million grant program for school safety and security improvements, funded by a reduction in a prior appropriation for the Northern Lights Express rail project. The bill would allow grants of up to $500,000 through the Department of Education for school districts, charter schools, cooperative units, tribal contract schools, and nonpublic schools. Staff explained that the bill uses the language of clause 7 of the safe schools revenue statute, focusing on facility security enhancements such as laminated glass, public announcement systems, emergency communication devices, and related equipment and modifications. Testifiers and members generally supported the goal of improving school safety, but there was disagreement about the bill’s scope. Supporters, including a superintendent and a nonpublic school principal, said the bill would help pay for one-time hardening costs like secure entrances, door locks, redesigned offices, and other physical security upgrades, and argued that all schools and students should be eligible. Several members raised concerns that the bill is too narrow and too competitive, could disadvantage districts without grant writers, and should also allow broader uses such as counselors, social workers, SROs, or mental health supports. Others said the bill should prioritize physical security and that one-time dollars are best used for one-time facility improvements. No vote was taken. The chair indicated the bill would be laid over, and the discussion ended with the author saying the proposal is not a fix-all but a starting point for school safety investments.
NM

New Mexico 2025 Regular Session

IC - Science, Technology and Telecommunications Sep 23rd, 2025

Science, Technology & Telecommunications Committee

Transcript Highlights:
  • I think that was all of my questions. Anyone? All right. Thank you for your presentation.
  • So it's much larger than just, you know, we have some impacts on some computer systems.
  • They have targeted funds on where they think that this would go.
  • So if we had said, you know, we specifically think that.
  • I think that that mostly wraps up my comments. Did you have any questions before I go up? Not yet.
TX
Transcript Highlights:
  • I think this is it working? I can hear you now. Thank you. I think, is it working?
  • No, sir, I don't think so.
  • I think it was you.
  • Yeah, I think you. I think you. Thank you for being here today. Amen.
  • I think I got my numbers right there. I think I got my numbers right there.
Summary: The joint Senate and House disaster preparedness and flooding hearing opened with quorum calls, prayer, testimony time limits, and remarks from legislative leaders emphasizing decorum, respect, and the goal of learning from the July 4 flood to prevent future loss of life. Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick and Speaker Dustin Burrows said the special session and hearings were intended to hear directly from local officials and residents, and that the state would pursue immediate and longer-term legislation and continue working beyond the current session. The committee then heard invited testimony from Kerr County, Kerrville, Kendall County, Real County, and the Upper Guadalupe River Authority, followed by member questions. Kerr County Judge Rob Kelly, Sheriff Larry Leitha, and emergency management coordinator William B. Thomas described the flood as a sudden, unprecedented event that overwhelmed local systems before many officials or residents understood the danger. They said the county received multiple National Weather Service and IPAWS alerts, but the rain fell in remote upstream areas with limited gauges, and the flood rose too quickly for normal response. They detailed the emergency response, including dispatchers handling heavy call volumes, deputies and volunteer firefighters conducting rescues, and state and federal partners assisting. County officials said 108 people died, including 37 children, and two remained missing. They called for better real-time flood detection, stronger rural emergency management resources, improved broadband and cell coverage, and more funding for swift-water rescue and warning systems. Kerrville Mayor Joe Herring and City Manager Dalton Rice said the city had floodplain rules, emergency plans, and prior preparedness efforts, but the event exposed gaps in communications and regional warning capacity. They urged the Legislature to fund a flood warning system, whether sirens, automated alerts, or a hybrid, and asked for support for predictive weather modeling, broadband expansion, a hazard mitigation fund, and disaster recovery resources. The Upper Guadalupe River Authority said it had long funded gauges and pursued flood-warning and mitigation projects, including a new software-based flood prediction system and possible retention dams, and planned to dedicate reserve funds to feasibility studies and infrastructure improvements. Kendall County Judge Shane Stolarczyk said his county’s emergency action plan and early alerts helped prevent deaths there, and he recommended easier access to alerting tools, a river-wide warning system, simpler grant applications, and regional coordination. Real County Judge Bella Rubio said rural counties face major challenges because of limited cell service, broadband, staffing, and funding, especially for camps and visitors along the Frio and Nueces rivers, and argued that reliable alert systems should be treated as a necessity, not a luxury. Members asked about the timeline of the flood, low-water crossings, communications failures, sirens, bridges, and funding, and several witnesses said the key lessons were better communications, better warning systems, and more investment in rural flood mitigation and emergency response.
NH

New Hampshire 2026 Regular Session

Senate Commerce (03/10/2026)

Commerce

Transcript Highlights:
  • So you'll be can watch on the computer.
  • I think it I think<00:27:41.360> it<00:27:41.679> notifies<00:27:42.240> the<00:
  • 27:42.559> employee<00:27:43.279> which think it notifies the employee which think it notifies
  • some<00:28:23.919> differences think you could see some differences think you could see some
  • >> Yeah, I think you're probably right. >> Yeah, I think you're probably right.
Keywords: 1191, senate, all
NM
Transcript Highlights:
  • We do have a computer lab for all our students, which has about six computers.
  • I just think we need to continue.
  • I think we need to coordinate.
  • Case, and I think it is.
  • I just think...
MN

Minnesota 2025 1st Special Session

Elections panel considers redistricting commission bill, HF550 2/24/25

Minnesota House Floor Meeting

Transcript Highlights:
  • I think we have a number of testifiers.
  • I think we have a number of testifiers.
  • <00:42:59.920> further legislature which I think further legislature which I think further
  • actually quite logical if you think actually quite logical if you think about<00:47:06.000> it
  • I think they took that to court.
Keywords: 1183, house
WY

Wyoming 2026 Regular Session

Senate Judiciary Committee, February 26, 2026

Judiciary

Transcript Highlights:
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  • think I said that. think I said that.
  • I think it's I think AI is necessary.
  • think a lot of it's new to them. think a lot of it's new to them.
  • <01:53:23.040> we >> I also don't think we need a I think we >> I also don't think
Bills: HB0083, HB0102, HB0178
TX

Texas 89th Regular

Corrections Mar 12th, 2025

Corrections

Transcript Highlights:
  • So I think maybe could have been one in our area.
  • What do you think is the driver of the projection?
  • This is something I don't think a lot of Texans know that we do, but is I think particularly fruitful
  • You don't think that you should breathe, you just do it.
  • I think that that sort of outside intelligence.
Keywords: 1184, house, all
MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

Leg Committee Meeting - 2025-03-12

Legacy Finance

Transcript Highlights:
  • I think that you probably covered Well, the work that you've done.
  • Your computer.
  • We think that That is our great strength.
  • I think we had like three or four that went in my district.
  • Do you have to hook up your computer? No? Okay.
TX

Texas 89th Regular

Homeland Security, Public Safety & Veterans' Affairs Apr 30th, 2025

Homeland Security, Public Safety & Veterans' Affairs

Transcript Highlights:
  • So I think this has got to fix that kind of problem.
  • I don't think the training is going to be arduous for agencies.
  • Do you think we're as stringent as we should be with our...
  • Sheriff, I think it's a good deal.
  • And I think the whole state can stand to gain from this. I think you're 100% correct on that.
FL
Transcript Highlights:
  • talk about or think about next session for middle schoolers, because I think the earlier we start, the
  • We will go back to our original agenda now, and I think what we'll do is we will start.
  • You're recognized, and he is a new appointee to, I think it's Palm Beach State, yes.
  • I'll say, I think nowhere exemplifies the growth... ...and contribute to that momentum.
  • I'll say, I think nowhere exemplifies the growth. and contribute to that momentum.
Summary: The Appropriations Committee on Higher Education convened with a quorum and first took up CS for SB 1694 on technology education. The bill would require technology-integrated postsecondary general education core courses to include digital literacy and competency instruction, including use of artificial intelligence tools, and would encourage high school computer science courses that include AI to teach how AI systems use data, their benefits and limitations, and responsible use in academic and personal settings. The bill sponsor and several supporters emphasized preparing students for an AI-driven workforce while teaching critical evaluation and ethical use; one speaker raised concerns about overreliance on AI and the need to preserve real-world skills. Senator Davis supported the measure and suggested introducing similar instruction earlier, possibly in middle school. The committee voted the bill favorably, with Senator Leak later recorded in the affirmative. The committee then heard a large block of confirmations for higher education boards, including appointees to Tallahassee State College, the University of South Florida, the University of North Florida, Palm Beach State College, the College of the Florida Keys, Hillsborough College, Miami-Dade College, Florida A&M University, Florida Gulf Coast University, Florida International University, New College of Florida, Florida Polytechnic University, and the University of Florida. The appointees generally highlighted backgrounds in education, health care, law, business, technology, and public service, and described priorities such as student success, workforce alignment, affordability, fiscal responsibility, and institutional growth. One nominee to Tallahassee State College was asked about low NCLEX pass rates and said the college had a plan approved by the Florida Board of Nursing. Another nominee discussed Florida Poly’s STEM mission, and several members praised the nominees’ community ties and professional experience. After hearing the appointees, the committee voted to report the block of confirmations favorably to the Ethics and Elections Committee. The committee then received a high-level overview of the higher education budget, totaling $11.9 billion, with major emphasis on workforce training and development. Highlights included increases for school district workforce education, the Florida College System, workforce development capitalization, a rural educator recruitment program, funding for the USF Center for Nursing, preeminent research universities, UCF’s community school grant program, UF’s literacy and math initiatives, UF’s autism and neurodevelopment center, and a postsecondary guardian program for campus security. Members asked a brief question about a workforce fund transfer, and the chair explained it was a transfer of an existing program with new funds added. No public comment was offered, and the meeting adjourned.
MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

House Taxes Committee 2/27/25

Taxes

Transcript Highlights:
  • I think a large part of it is.
  • report uh but shair and members I think report uh but shair and members I think it's<00:12:45.720
  • is what we're saying we don't think is what we're saying we don't think that's<00:18:30.760>
  • centers can be stopped but we do think centers can be stopped but we do think that<00:51:30.000>
  • I think to the author, I think you had mentioned your comments to the ultimate owner.
Bills: HF1277, HF1006
MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

Committee on Capital Investment - 03/25/25

Capital Investment

Transcript Highlights:
  • I think we'd have to think carefully about that. Right.
  • I think we'd have to think carefully about that. Right.
  • I think we'd have to think carefully about that. Right.
  • I think we'd have to think carefully about that. Right.
  • so I think on an ongoing basis, I think so I think on an ongoing basis, I think the,<01:22:46.480
Keywords: 1187, senate, all
CA

California 2025-2026 Regular Session

Assembly Appropriations Committee May 23rd, 2025

Transcript Highlights:
  • We have also made a lot of two-year bills that we think need the conversations to keep happening.
  • So it was a tough year, but I think we all feel an incredible responsibility to our constituents, and
  • AB 811, Arreguín, computer science instructional work group: hold in committee.
  • AB 887, Berman, computer science course implementation guide: do pass out on an A roll call.
  • AB 887, Berman, computer science course implementation guide: do pass out on an A roll call.
Summary: The Assembly Appropriations Committee held its May 23, 2025 suspense hearing and opened by emphasizing the difficult budget environment, rising costs for constituents, and the need to make tough choices. The chair said many bills would be held, amended to reduce costs, or made two-year bills because the state could not afford broad program expansions this year. The committee also noted the agenda was organized alphabetically by author and that results would be posted later that day. The committee then acted on a large suspense file, taking up hundreds of Assembly bills across topics including housing, health care, education, labor, public safety, climate, water, transportation, elections, and technology. Many bills were held in committee, while many others were approved with cost-saving, clarifying, or author’s amendments. Examples included measures on CalABLE, Covered California enrollment, wildfire and insurance issues, reproductive health, school and college programs, prison and juvenile justice matters, AI and data privacy, and local government and utility regulation. Several bills were converted to two-year bills to continue discussion. Throughout the hearing, the committee repeatedly voted on bills by A roll call or B roll call, often with Republicans not voting on amended measures. Some bills were advanced with notable amendments, such as narrowing scope, removing appropriations, delaying implementation, or striking costly provisions. The committee also approved a number of committee bills and omnibus measures, including emergency management, judiciary, insurance, and water-related bills. At the end of the hearing, the chair stated that the committee had moved 435 bills to the Assembly floor, either as do pass or do pass as amended, and adjourned the meeting.
NM
Transcript Highlights:
  • I think it's a bad idea. Sorry, but I just think it's a bad idea. And how much does the study cost?
  • I don't think that's going to take a whole lot of research.
  • So I think that's something the study would look...
  • I'd have to think those...
  • But when you get into the intricacies of this advanced, all this computer stuff, I think it's going to
Keywords: 996, all
NY
Transcript Highlights:
  • in her budget, the Governor commented on the fact that there's been no increase in tuition, and I think
  • We've got to take a look at TAP TUITION, AND I THINK THAT IS A VERY POSITIVE STEP.
  • So I also think, and I agree with Senator May here, that we need to support our medical schools.
  • So I also think, and I agree with Senator May here, that we need to support our medical schools.
  • SO I ALSO THINK, AND I AGREE WITH SENATOR MAY HERE, THAT WE NEED TO SUPPORT OUR MEDICAL SCHOOLS.
Keywords: 993, senate, all
Summary: The Higher Education Conference Committee met to discuss budget priorities for SUNY, CUNY, community colleges, TAP, student aid, and capital funding. Chair Toby Ann Stavisky emphasized the need for increased operating and capital support, protection against enrollment-based funding losses, no tuition increases, a review of TAP because it has not kept pace with living costs, and action on student loan access and research funding cuts. Assembly Chair Alicia Hyndman outlined the Assembly’s higher education proposal, including $475.7 million to expand TAP eligibility, raising income thresholds for TAP and the Excelsior Scholarship, creating a graduate tuition assistance program, adding community college operating aid, expanding the Opportunity Promise Scholarship, forgiving SUNY hospital debt service, increasing CUNY operating support, restoring opportunity program funding, creating a $110 million student loan support program called New York Rises, and funding five-year capital plans for SUNY and CUNY plus additional ECAP grants. Members broadly supported making higher education more affordable and accessible, while highlighting district-specific needs. Senator May praised SUNY Reconnect, community college workforce programs, hospital debt service relief, and a five-year SUNY capital plan. Senator Gonzalez framed the budget as an investment in economic mobility. Senator Griffo supported affordability, operating and capital aid, and additional support for medical schools and hospitals. Assembly Members Walker, Colton, and Fall backed TAP expansion, opportunity programs, disability supports, SUNY Downstate’s transformation, and capital needs at CUNY and SUNY campuses. Assembly Member Smullen, speaking for the minority conference, urged a five-way budget process, said TAP has not kept pace with inflation, and called for a more stable long-term funding model for community colleges. He also stressed aligning higher education with workforce needs. Assembly Member Pirozzolo pointed to the College of Staten Island as an example of the benefits of investment and warned that employers recruiting students directly from high school could weaken higher education unless colleges continue strengthening trade and career training. The meeting ended with no vote on the budget items, and the chairs adjourned the conference committee after concluding remarks.