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NJ

New Jersey 2026-2027 Regular Session

Assembly Appropriations Jun 8th, 2026

Transcript Highlights:
  • The people who pay are the taxpayers.
  • When New Jersey citizens cannot pay their bills, put food on the table, gas in their cars, or pay their
  • A landlord who plays fair never pays a cent. The only one who pays is the one who broke the rules.
  • The one who pays is the one who broke the rules.
  • Reporting what everybody's paying is one thing.
Keywords: 1146, all
AZ

Arizona 2026 Regular Session

02/17/2026 - Senate Appropriations, Transportation and Technology

Appropriations, Transportation and Technology

Transcript Highlights:
  • that, because I had the same situation in Pinal County with ICE prisoners and the feds that didn't pay
  • Did they pay the late entry fee? Come on out. Allia Florence.
  • But there’s been some thought on rethinking about how the kids need to pay attention to instructions
  • It's each of us that pay taxes that cover all these things. And with that, a vote aye.
  • It’s a reminder every day that somebody out there needs to pay attention.
LA
Transcript Highlights:
  • So the remaining funds rolled over to pay down the experience account amortization base.
  • It just pays off that base a little bit earlier.
  • And that's the great majority of the employers would be paying this.
  • And that's the great majority of the employers would be paying this.
  • So it pays that schedule off early.
Summary: The Public Retirement Systems Actuarial Committee met on June 22 and approved the minutes from the February 23, 2026 meeting. There was no public comment. The main discussion focused on Louisiana State Employees’ Retirement System (LASERS) and how appropriations from House Bill 312 of 2026 affect the system’s actuarial valuation and employer contribution rate for fiscal year 2027. Staff explained that HB 312 provided about $145 million in appropriations to LASERS, with roughly $87.6 million applied to the original amortization base and about $57.9 million applied to the experience account amortization base. As a result, the projected aggregate employer contribution rate for the fiscal year beginning July 1, 2026 was revised from 32.51% to 30.05%, a reduction of 2.46%, and the required projected employer contribution was updated to about $738.7 million. The presentation also noted that the June 30, 2025 valuation itself did not change, only the projected 2026 rate, and that the original amortization base would be paid off by June 30, 2026. Committee members asked about the longer-term effect of the changes, including a projected 2036 payment reduction. Staff explained that later-year UAL payments would be lower, but that the exact savings would depend on future actuarial experience and investment performance. The committee then adopted the motion to revise the projected fiscal year 2027 LASERS aggregate contribution rate to 30.05%, subject to the appropriation, and later adjourned without opposition.
MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

House Taxes Committee 4/8/26

Taxes

Transcript Highlights:
  • So these facilities will continue to pay real estate taxes.
  • </c> these facilities will continue to pay these facilities will continue to pay real<01:03:21.119><c
  • They shouldn't be uh having to pay bill.
  • This is a result of how payers pay chiropractors.
  • Why are we paying it?
OK
Transcript Highlights:
  • The CLO fund was set up for teacher pay and education.
  • Federal government pays 90 and we pay 10. All the way back there. What's that?
  • The federal government pays $90 and the state of Oklahoma pays $10. Is that correct?
  • Harris aye, pay aye. Here's aye, pay aye. Clear the vote. Seventy-one aye, 23 nay.
  • We all actually already pay for this mediation fee.
Summary: The House considered and passed a series of bills focused on public finance, securities, pharmacy regulation, criminal penalties, energy, housing associations, and Medicaid. Early votes included House Bill 4428, which requires public retirement systems to base proxy voting and related engagement on fiduciary, pecuniary factors, and House Bill 4429, which adds disclosure requirements for proxy advisors and excludes charitable organizations from the definition; both passed. House Bill 1170, also dealing with public finance and aligning definitions with the earlier retirement-system bill, passed the House, but its emergency clause failed. The chamber also adopted a motion to suspend House Rule 4.4J to allow food on the floor for the rest of the legislative day. Members then passed House Bill 3538, a negotiated pharmacy benefits manager measure that establishes a mandatory minimum dispensing fee for pharmacies and was described as intended to help independent pharmacies; it passed unanimously. House Bill 4124, allowing pharmacies to sell human ivermectin over the counter, also passed after extended debate. House Bill 3904, which changes Oklahoma Medicaid maternity payments to separate prenatal, delivery, and postpartum reimbursements, passed with broad support. House Bill 4106, lowering the felony threshold for repeated petty larceny from $1,000 to $900 and tying it to multiple offenses within 180 days, passed after amendment. The House also approved House Bill 2999, which would prohibit requiring public officials to sign nondisclosure agreements under certain conditions, and House Bill 3982, addressing temporary tags for new and used dealerships and commercial vehicles. House Bill 3464, an energy bill adding landowner protections, notice, decommissioning, and permitting reforms for wind, solar, and battery storage facilities, passed unanimously and its emergency clause also passed. House Bill 2588, requiring HOA board members to own property and physically reside in the association, passed as well. A major debate centered on House Joint Resolution 1077, a constitutional amendment to restructure how tobacco settlement funds are used: it would move TSET legacy functions to the Health Department, direct more funding toward Oklahoma’s Promise/OLAP and related education opportunities, and preserve the corpus while redirecting distributions. Supporters framed it as a long-term investment in education and workforce opportunities; opponents argued it would undermine public health funding and repurpose a voter-created trust. The resolution passed the House, and the special-election referral required for the constitutional amendment also received the necessary two-thirds vote. Later, House Bill 4440, which would move Medicaid expansion from the Constitution into statute and separate expansion from traditional Medicaid, also passed after substantial debate over health care access, provider rates, and the role of voters. Finally, House Bill 3462 on plumbing licensing was laid over after amendments were discussed, including changes to apprenticeship and out-of-state reciprocity.
MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

House Energy Finance and Policy Committee 3/24/26

Energy Finance and Policy

Transcript Highlights:
  • That can end in afford to pay at all.
  • </c> when when when a utility has to pay when when when a utility has to pay back.<00:29:56.080><c> Uh
  • Well, you going to pay the rateayers 8%.
  • They pay a lot of property taxes along the right-of-way.
  • c><01:11:59.440><c> of</c> that's untrue. they pay a lot of that's untrue. they pay a lot of property
Bills: HF4236, HF4122, HF4377
NH
Transcript Highlights:
  • And uh fee and what Medicaid would pay.
  • Would coverage and Medicaid pays first.
  • So they're paying off say obligations.
  • That helps drive the question of how are we paying them?
  • rate that we're paying out to the<01:23:30.480><c> MCO.
Keywords: 1189, house, all
Summary: The committee chair opened by explaining that the committee has expanded from a traditional audit-follow-up role into an oversight role focused on whether audit recommendations are implemented and whether controls are in place to detect fraud. He said the committee was concerned about fraud uncovered in social service programs in other states and wanted to understand New Hampshire’s safeguards, especially around major contracts and program performance. Charles Buchanan, director of the New Hampshire Medicaid Fraud Control Unit, and investigator Tim Brackett described the unit’s structure and mission. Buchanan said the unit, housed in the Attorney General’s Criminal Justice Bureau, investigates and prosecutes fraud by health care providers serving Medicaid beneficiaries, as well as abuse, neglect, and financial exploitation of residents in health care facilities. He outlined common Medicaid fraud schemes such as billing for services not rendered, upcoding, using unqualified staff, drug substitution, kickbacks, supplemental charges, and inflated customary charges. He also described resident abuse/neglect and drug diversion in hospitals, nursing homes, and assisted living settings. Brackett said his role is financial investigator/auditor and noted the unit is grant-funded and must include a prosecutor, investigator, and auditor. The witnesses then explained how cases reach the unit and how they are handled. Most referrals come from the state Department of Health and Human Services’ program integrity unit and from managed care organizations’ special investigations units, which look for fraud, waste, and abuse and refer credible allegations. Other sources include qui tam whistleblower actions, the national Medicaid Fraud Control Units association, citizen complaints, provider referrals, adult protective services law-enforcement referrals, local law enforcement, and federal agencies. Once a referral is received, the unit can accept or deny it; accepted matters may be investigated criminally or civilly, while nonviable matters can be referred back to HHS or other agencies for administrative action, including repayment demands and reimbursement offsets. No votes or formal committee actions were taken in the portion provided.
AZ

Arizona 2026 Regular Session

02/17/2026 - House Commerce

Commerce

Transcript Highlights:
  • Chairman and members, by way of background, insurers are annually assessed up to $1,050 to pay for the
  • All development requires public infrastructure, and somebody has to pay for it.
  • They will be paying the tax or assessment obligation instead of the impact fee, and rather than paying
  • , eventually, or paying more than the impact fee in taxes and so on that they assess.
  • We used the bond funds to pay for the infrastructure of the development.
NM

New Mexico 2025 Regular Session

IC - Water and Natural Resources Nov 17th, 2025

Water & Natural Resources Committee

Transcript Highlights:
  • So, what is the contract now that you're paying out?
  • Of the homeowner paying the bill, but the renter paying the bill, the homeowner is typically the one
  • That's a pretty hefty load for anybody to pay.
  • So for those not familiar with subrogation, that's when an insurance company pays. pays out a claimant
  • The technology, how to use it, who pays for it.
KY
Transcript Highlights:
  • </c><00:08:31.480><c> the</c> continue to use COT funds to pay the continue to use COT funds to pay the
  • So then in we're paying you duplication.
  • </c> what you're paying now for that service. what you're paying now for that service.
  • And we say, "Well, we're not really paying more cuz we're paying ourself back."
  • paying more cuz we're paying not really paying more cuz we're paying ourself<01:15:27.000><c> back."
Summary: The meeting began with approval of the prior minutes and then focused first on the Commonwealth Office of Technology’s legacy systems and two specific projects. COT officials said many agencies have made progress moving off legacy applications, with remaining mainframe systems slated to be retired through RFPs or other work orders. They also described a legacy funding pool of $10 million per biennium used to help agencies transition. The two projects discussed were the Kentucky aerial photography and elevation data program, which provides statewide aerial imagery and lidar data for GIS, E911, environmental, transportation, and other uses, and a citizen identity and access management system intended to give residents a single login for state services. Officials said the GIS program costs about $1.2 million annually to host and maintain, with data acquisition costing several million more per year, and that the citizen identity system would cost about $2.5 million per year after an initial three-year COT investment. Members asked about duplication of funding, licensing, local government use, and whether multi-factor authentication would be required; COT said the GIS data is being acquired as statewide unlicensed data and that MFA would be available but not yet mandated statewide. Committee members pressed COT on costs, overlap with cabinet-level IT spending, and the practical benefits of the GIS and identity projects. COT explained that GIS hosting is generally covered through enterprise assessments billed quarterly to agencies, while the new aerial data is intended to benefit the whole state and local partners. On the identity project, officials said it would centralize authentication for citizens who use state systems, improve compliance with zero-trust and NIST-related security expectations, and reduce help desk and maintenance burdens through self-service account tools. Members also discussed whether the system would extend to local governments; COT said it would be a Kentucky.gov-style state login for users inside the state identity infrastructure, not a local-government system. The Department of Education then testified that it does not operate mainframes or major legacy systems, having moved long ago to cloud-based, off-the-shelf products and vendor-supported services. KDE officials described a strong emphasis on staff cybersecurity awareness, standardized statewide systems, vendor risk-sharing, and reducing sensitive data exposure, including efforts to move away from student Social Security numbers. They also highlighted a transition from Microsoft Active Directory to Identity Automation, which they said will improve identity management and make multi-factor authentication universal across K-12. In response to questions about Kentucky Wired and internet service, KDE said all 171 school districts and KDE agencies have been moved to a new next-generation internet service through ENA by Zayo, with strong satisfaction, e-rate savings, and better reliability. Officials warned that any internet disruption would immediately affect attendance, grades, student records, payroll, security systems, and communications across the K-12 system.
MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

House Workforce, Labor, and Economic Development Finance and Policy Committee 3/5/25

Workforce, Labor, and Economic Development Finance and Policy

Transcript Highlights:
  • Abuse may involve paying for items or services where there is no legal entitlement to that payment.
  • First of all, there's holiday pay of time and a half for workers on 11 state holidays.
  • tied for third, holiday pay and pensions.
  • We would be able to give them a response before the holiday pay rules went into effect.
  • Representative Greenman said the concern is about the ability to pay.
Bills: HF23, HF1355
AZ
Transcript Highlights:
  • that you're given as... ...Christian school, you're paying tuition and presumably it's more than the
  • excess is typically more homeschoolers, not those that are in a school in a... ...school, you're paying
  • So in your scenario, a family has money in the ESA account, they pay for their tuition each year to go
  • We're not paying our teachers enough.
  • of— When we don't have the money to take care of public school kids and we don't have the money to pay
Summary: The Senate Committee on Appropriations, Transportation and Technology heard HCR 2048, as amended by a strike-everything amendment. The amendment would constitutionally prohibit the state from confiscating scholarship account monies from children of military families who are eligible for education scholarship accounts (ESAs) and can use the funds for tuition and fees at eligible postsecondary institutions. It also would make any later bill or voter-approved measure that violates that prohibition void in its entirety, with no severability, for measures enacted or approved on or after November 1, 2026. Representative Way, the sponsor, said the measure was intended to protect military families from having education funds taken away and argued that military children face unique disruptions because of deployments and frequent moves. Supporters including Matt Beinberg of the Goldwater Institute, Kevin Beasty of the Arizona Christian Education Coalition, Peter Gentala of the Center for Arizona Policy, and Senator Rogers said the amendment was needed to safeguard military families and preserve their ability to use ESA funds flexibly, including for college savings. Opponents, including Senators Alston, Fernandez, Kuby, and Epstein, argued the proposal was unnecessary, overly broad, and an attempt to preempt or invalidate a pending ESA-related citizen initiative. They also raised concerns about ESA accountability, public school funding, and constitutional issues involving voter initiatives and judicial review. After debate, the committee adopted the strike-everything amendment and then voted on HCR 2048 as amended. The final committee vote was 6 ayes, 4 noes, and 1 not voting, giving the measure a do-pass recommendation.
LA
Transcript Highlights:
  • But there, it’s an extension to pay, excuse me, file, not to pay.
  • much would you say is voluntary versus involuntary—meaning how much are we just somebody agreeing to pay
  • You have the collection part, people who just don't pay, we send them a bill, they pay after their period
  • And just to add, I know that in November we had that tax—I mean, we had somebody double pay, and it was
  • It's just right off the top before we pay for a kid to go to school or a hospital bed or anything else
Summary: The Revenue Estimating Conference met with four members present and first approved the prior meeting minutes and recognized the FYI end-of-balance of $577,077,871 as nonrecurring revenue. The main business was revising the state revenue forecast for FY 2026, FY 2027, and the long-range outlook. The Division of Administration recommended a $113 million reduction to the FY 2026 State General Fund forecast and a $104 million reduction for FY 2027, citing weaker-than-expected individual income tax collections, softer corporate income tax receipts, and some weakness in general sales tax, partly offset by stronger motor vehicle sales tax and higher mineral-related revenues tied to oil prices. The Legislative Fiscal Office presented a somewhat different but broadly similar forecast, with modest net increases to the general fund bottom line in the current year and next year, emphasizing caution on income and corporate taxes and more optimism on sales, severance, royalties, and some other revenue streams. A substantial portion of the discussion focused on the causes of the income tax shortfall, especially withholding and refund patterns after tax changes that lowered rates. Department of Revenue officials explained that withholding tables had been set with a cushion that may be producing larger refunds, and said changing the tables could quickly reduce overwithholding, though the effect would take time to show up. Members also discussed corporate collections, the lingering effects of the franchise tax repeal, the role of settlements and audits, and the extent to which collections are voluntary versus enforcement-driven. The Department of Revenue said corporate collections still had key filing and estimated-payment milestones ahead in May and June, and that refund and audit activity related to the former franchise tax would continue for some time. The conference then adopted the Division of Administration’s FY 2026 forecast, the FY 2027 recurring forecast, and the long-range forecast, along with the proposed inflation rates for the Millennium Trust and parish severance allocation. Members also adopted the incentive expenditure forecast, noting that the reported amount is only the REC-reported portion and that larger tax exemption amounts come off the top before appropriations. The Treasurer reported a General Fund cash balance of about $404.1 million as of May 5, 2026, and an interfund borrowing base of about $9.18 billion, saying cash levels were similar on average to the prior year. The meeting ended with a note that another REC meeting might be needed depending on the May 16 election, and the conference adjourned without objection.
LA
Transcript Highlights:
  • But there, it's an extension to pay, excuse me, file, not to pay.
  • You have the collection part—people who just don't pay, we send them a bill, they pay after their period
  • And just to add, I know that in November we had that tax—I mean, it was, we had somebody double pay,
  • rate to try to bring more corporations in, it's going to take time for them to show up and start paying
  • It's just right off the top before we pay for a kid to go to school or a hospital bed or anything else
Keywords: 965, house, all
Summary: The Revenue Estimating Conference met with four members present and first approved the December 11, 2025 minutes. Members then recognized the FYI end-of-balance of $577,077,871 as non-recurring revenue. The main business was revising the state revenue forecast for FY 2026, with the Division of Administration recommending a reduction of about $113 million, driven primarily by weaker individual income tax collections, softer general sales tax receipts, and a substantial cut to corporate income tax forecasts. The Legislative Fiscal Office presented a somewhat different but still cautious outlook, and members discussed withholding rates, refund growth, corporate collections, and the effects of the franchise tax repeal and tax reform changes. After questions to the Department of Revenue about collections, refunds, enforcement, and settlements, the conference adopted the Division of Administration’s FY 2026 forecast. The conference then reviewed the FY 2027 recurring forecast. The Division of Administration again recommended a reduction, this time about $104 million, citing continued caution on individual income and corporate taxes, while the Legislative Fiscal Office projected a net increase of about $127 million, largely from sales tax, severance, royalties, vehicle sales tax, and other revenue streams. Members discussed the practical budget impact of the revised forecasts, including the need to reduce spending and the difficulty of funding a possible teacher stipend if a constitutional amendment fails. The FY 2027 recurring forecast was adopted. Members also adopted the long-range forecast, the proposed inflation rates for the Millennium Trust and parish severance allocation, and the incentive expenditure forecast. The incentive discussion noted that reported incentive costs reduce available revenue before appropriations, and members raised the possibility of reviewing or capping such incentives. The Treasurer’s Office then reported that the General Fund cash balance was $404.1 million as of May 5, 2026, and the interfund borrowing base was about $9.18 billion, with cash positions generally similar to the prior year. The meeting ended with a note that another REC meeting might be needed after the May 16 election, followed by adjournment.
MN
Transcript Highlights:
  • for through when they vote on whether they want to pay this sales tax in their communities?
  • for through when they vote on whether they want to pay this sales tax in their communities?
  • for through when they vote on whether they want to pay this sales tax in their communities?
  • for through when they vote on whether they want to pay this sales tax in their communities?
  • for through when they vote on whether they want to pay this sales tax in their communities?
Keywords: 919, house, all
Summary: Representative Hicks presented House File 4194, which would change how Rochester’s approved local option sales tax funds could be used for a regional athletics facility. Hicks argued the city’s 2023 ballot materials promised substantial community and stakeholder engagement and an indoor/outdoor community recreation complex, but that the project shifted to an outdoor-only plan without meaningful public input. She said the bill was needed to center Rochester residents’ voices and prevent a precedent of approved projects being changed after the vote. Rochester City Council President Randy Schubring opposed the bill, saying the city is following the 2023 authorization and building as much as possible within the approved funding. He said the ballot question passed with 53% support and urged the committee not to overturn local election results, while asking lawmakers to work with the city and Rochester delegation on the remaining funding shortfall. Testifier Kamau Wilkins also opposed the city’s current direction, saying voters were promised indoor recreation facilities but are now getting mostly outdoor baseball diamonds, which he described as a bait-and-switch. Several members supported Hicks’ concerns, saying legislators have a duty to ensure local sales tax projects match what voters were told. Representative Lee raised a broader issue about legislative oversight of local option sales taxes and referenced a possible St. Paul-related fix. Hicks closed by saying she supported the tax originally but no longer believes the project matches what voters approved. The committee then laid House File 4194 over for possible inclusion in the omnibus tax bill.
ID

Idaho 2026 Regular Session

Agenda Mar 16th, 2026

Health and Welfare

Transcript Highlights:
  • Insurance will pay for the breast reconstruction, but for fertility, it doesn't have a physical—you just
  • Honestly, we have never destroyed any tissue, even if people don't pay.
  • I had no idea how I was going to pay for it. It wasn't hundreds of dollars; it's tens of thousands.
  • Insurers would have to cover it like mine, but at the end of the day, you'd have to pay that.
  • I would love the state to pay for my next grandkid.
Keywords: 989, all
LA
Transcript Highlights:
  • And along that way, whether it be in Missouri, Iowa, Oklahoma, Arkansas, every single time I pay for
  • Ducks Unlimited pays for a conservation project on private property.
  • Ducks Unlimited pays for a conservation project on private property.
  • Who do I need to pay? Settle down. We'll get there. But so we're really excited to put forth this.
  • Kelly said, to be able to pay back to the state. So we're really excited to put forth this.
Summary: The House Transportation Committee met on Wednesday, March 11, with a quorum present and heard several specialty license plate bills. HB 801 by Rep. Martinez would create a classic black specialty plate, with revenue directed to State Police high-speed pursuit training for local law enforcement. Members discussed the need for better pursuit training in light of fatal crashes, adopted a set of amendments and a technical change, and reported the bill favorably with amendments. The committee also advanced HB 891 by Rep. Landry, which creates wildlife conservation specialty plates and adjusts revenue distribution to support conservation groups such as Ducks Unlimited and Quail Forever, while also helping the Department of Wildlife and Fisheries conservation fund. Testimony from LDWF and the conservation groups emphasized habitat work, fundraising leverage, and conservation benefits. The bill drew extended questioning from Vice Chair Fontenot about Ducks Unlimited’s work, including its projects in Louisiana and other states and whether certain habitat practices affect duck migration; the committee then reported the bill with amendments. HB 587 by Rep. Dickerson would create a PANS/PANDAS specialty plate to raise awareness and return revenue to the general fund to help cover treatment costs. The bill was supported by a parent and child who described the disorder and the impact of insurance coverage for IVIG treatment; it was reported with amendments. HB 331 by Rep. Mack created a Louisiana GOP specialty plate and was reported with amendments after brief discussion. HB 629 by Rep. Lyons created a plate for the Crew of Athena and was also reported with amendments. HB 428 by Rep. Baham created an LSU baseball championship plate recognizing the 2023 and 2025 national title teams and was reported with amendments. Rep. Walters voluntarily deferred HB 129, HB 130, and HB 854, and the committee adjourned afterward.
NH

New Hampshire 2026 Regular Session

House Executive Departments and Administration (03/04/2026)

Executive Departments and Administration

Transcript Highlights:
  • And so therefore, um, when it came to zoning and um permitting fees that we would be required to pay
  • Um I had to pay over $20,000 in fees. Um but and go through additional approvals.
  • And so therefore, um, when it came to zoning and um permitting fees that we would be required to pay
  • Um I had to pay over $20,000 in fees. Um but and go through additional approvals.
  • Um but and go pay over $20,000 in fees.
Keywords: 1189, house, all
CA

California 2025-2026 Regular Session

Assembly Floor Session Feb 5th, 2026

California House Floor Meeting

Transcript Highlights:
  • Alone in California, nearly 1.7 million Californians are seeing their monthly premiums double, paying
  • They will either be forced to pay unaffordable premiums or go without health insurance altogether—care
  • I want that to sink in for a moment: people who have no ability to pay, they seek care.
  • People who have no ability to pay, they seek care.
  • People who have no ability to pay for health care, but seeking the medical health care at hospitals,
Keywords: 988, house, all
ID

Idaho 2026 Regular Session

Agenda Jan 27th, 2026

Education

Transcript Highlights:
  • helping out JFAC where it can to actually reshift some of those funds back down to make sure we're paying
  • of a sudden it'll look like you have a lot more money in your bank account, but then you've got to pay
  • Non-profit, they don't pay income taxes.
  • She's like, well, you don't have her paying attention skills. And I'm like, well, what's that?
  • And not to pay attention and do some things here.
Summary: The committee heard testimony from Representative Josh Tanner, the House co-chair of JFAC, on state budgeting and education funding. Tanner argued Idaho has a spending problem driven by policy decisions and supplementals, said education funding should be judged by outcomes rather than inputs, and criticized what he described as declining test results, enrollment shifts, and loopholes in the funding formula, including students allegedly being counted for sports participation without attending class. He also questioned heavy technology spending in classrooms and said many programs should be reexamined for return on investment. Members responded by asking for more information from LSO and the Impact Team on how the school funding formula and support units work, and several suggested the committee should better educate itself before making changes. Tanner agreed that the formula is complicated and supported more analysis, audits, and possible sunset provisions or other mechanisms to force policy review. He also said JFAC analysts can help members understand the budget and that the committee should look backward at existing programs, not just forward at new ones. The discussion broadened to whether the state has a spending problem or a revenue problem, with Tanner pointing to growth in supplemental spending, Medicaid, corrections, and uncertainty around federal conformity costs, while noting education had not been targeted for cuts. Members raised concerns about mental health resources, school climate, and the need to listen to local school boards and parents. The meeting ended with the chair saying he would gather the needed materials for the committee’s upcoming discussion with JFAC, and the committee adjourned without taking a vote.