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CA
Transcript Highlights:
- The Senate Committee on Rules will come to order.
- Welcome to the Rules Committee. I do have some questions.
- We will turn it to committee. Vice Chair Grove. Thank you. Welcome to the Rules Committee.
- We are adjourning the public segment of Senate Rules Committee and will be convening...
- the public segment of Senate Rules Committee and will be convening executive session.
Committee:
Senate Rules
ID
Transcript Highlights:
- Good morning, Madam Chair and members of the committee.
- Welcome to committee. Good morning. Thank you, Chairman and committee. Thank you.
- Good morning, Madam Chair, and members of the committee.
- Welcome to committee. Good morning. Thank you, Chairman and committee. Thank you. Good morning.
- Welcome to committee. Good morning. Thank you, Chairman and committee. Thank you.
Committee:
Senate Agricultural Affairs
MA
Massachusetts 2025-2026 Regular Session
Senate Session Jun 21st, 2026 at 11:00 am
Massachusetts Senate Floor Meeting
Transcript Highlights:
- referred to their respective committees.
- Joint Rule 12 is suspended, and those matters will be referred to their respective committees.
- And I appreciate most the approach that the committee has used, which is customary for the committee,
- It's now in conference committee.
- objection to the rules suspended.
Summary:
The Senate opened with the Pledge of Allegiance, adopted two commendatory resolutions honoring the Plimpton Historical Society’s Deborah Sampson Day recognition and Megan’s Light’s Cystic Fibrosis Awareness Month observance, and suspended Joint Rule 12 to refer several House petitions to committee. The chamber also briefly recognized Diane Talk of the South Shore Regional Emergency Communication Center on her retirement after 30 years of dispatch service. Later, the Senate passed two local bills to enactment: House No. 4006, authorizing Dartmouth to grant an additional all-alcoholic beverages license, and House No. 473, relating to the charter of Westwood.
The main business was the Senate Ways and Means presentation of the fiscal year 2027 budget, totaling about $63.3 billion. The chair described the budget as balanced, with no new taxes or tax cuts, based on a consensus revenue estimate of $986 million in growth over FY26 (2.4%), and including about $15.8 billion in federal financial participation and roughly $2.7 billion from the Fair Share surtax. The budget emphasized record local aid, including $1.376 billion in unrestricted general government aid, $7.66 billion for Chapter 70 education aid, increased minimum school aid, higher regional school transportation reimbursement, rural aid, and the revival of the Foundation Budget Review Commission. It also highlighted major investments in MassEducate free community college, food security, housing, and support for vulnerable residents.
Members then engaged in extended colloquy on the budget’s major cost drivers and policy choices. Questions focused on debt service, pension and OPEB liabilities, MassHealth caseload and rising per-enrollee costs, child care funding, and program integrity in DTA and other benefit programs. The chair said debt service would be about $2.67 billion, pension payments would be $5.1 billion, OPEB would receive a $150 million payment, and MassHealth enrollment was projected at about 2 million with costs driven by acuity and medical inflation. He also said the budget includes no collective bargaining agreements and no state tax changes. Senators supporting the budget praised its investments in education, local aid, homelessness prevention, public health, libraries, and housing, while minority leaders and others stressed the need for fiscal discipline, transparency, and further work on affordability and municipal support. The Senate also received a House message on House No. 5316, which the House had nonconcurred in, and a conference committee was appointed on the disagreement.
CA
California 2025-2026 Regular Session
Assembly Floor Session Sep 4th, 2025
California House Floor Meeting
Transcript Highlights:
- I move to suspend Assembly Rule 96 to withdraw AB 710, Irwin, from the Public Safety Committee and order
- Members, pursuant to Assembly Rule 77.2, I am rereferring AB 754, Assembly Member Connolly, to the Committee
- And although I know this has been contentious, I know in committee it was a very difficult committee
- though I don't serve on the committee, but I had a bill up before the committee at that time.
- and Wildlife Committee; and AB 1136, Ortega, to the Labor and Employment Committee.
Summary:
The Assembly convened after a quorum call, prayer, and pledge, then handled a long consent and concurrence calendar. Early procedural actions included moving several bills to the inactive file, waiving the floor amendment deadline for certain measures, rescinding prior action on SB 733, and approving a motion to withdraw AB 710 from committee to the third reading file by a 42-12 vote. The chamber also re-referred AB 406 to Labor and Employment and later AB 754 to Housing, while taking up numerous Senate and Assembly measures out of order to accommodate authors and guests.
The body adopted several resolutions recognizing October 2025 as California Promotoras Month (HR 58), National Fried Rice Day and National Rice Month (HR 71), Direct Support Professional Recognition Week (HR 70), and All California Day (HR 67). Members also concurred in Senate amendments on a wide range of bills covering insurance, horses, emergency vehicles, health facilities, restitution, education, tribal regalia at graduation, behavioral health, air pollution, energy, dams, greenhouse gases, foster youth, court interpreters, tenancy language access, patient privacy notices, discrimination in school facility rentals, hospital visitation rights, diversion, agriculture, insurance studies, electricity, and environmental stewardship. Most of these measures passed with little or no opposition, though a few drew recorded noes.
Several higher-profile policy bills drew debate. SB 694 on veteran claim assistance generated the most extensive discussion, with supporters arguing it would stop predatory, unaccredited companies from charging veterans for VA claims help, and opponents warning it could reduce veterans’ choices and should be paired with broader fixes to county VSO access; the bill ultimately passed 46-0. Other notable actions included concurrence on SB 576 limiting loud streaming ads, SB 512 on transportation tax initiatives, and SB 785 creating a tax credit for durable medical equipment for children with complex medical needs. The Assembly also concurred in SB 250 on Medi-Cal provider directories, SB 831 on the Geological Survey, SB 788 on CPA regulation, SB 456 on muralist licensing, SB 72 on the California Water Plan, SB 76 on used-car fee protections, SB 246 on rural health workforce support, SB 484 on coastal affordable housing, SB 680 on sex offender registration, SB 695 on climate-resilient highway projects, and SB 783 on outdoor advertising. Votes were overwhelmingly favorable across the board, with the chamber repeatedly adopting Senate amendments and resolutions by voice vote or recorded roll call.
DE
Delaware 2025-2026 Regular Session
Senate Legislative Session - Session 2 - 42nd Legislative Day Jun 30th, 2026 at 02:00 pm
Delaware Senate Floor Meeting
Transcript Highlights:
- Secretary, do we have committee reports? Madam Reading Clerk, please read in committee reports.
- This bill preserves that general rule.
- Madam President, report from committee. Mr. Assistant Secretary, committee reports.
- So during the committee hearing, it's a good bill, but during the committee hearing there were challenges
- This is the Grant-in-Aid Committee bill.
MN
Transcript Highlights:
- The bill's reading referred to Committee on Ways and Means. >> Report from the Committee on Rules and
- Committee on Rules and >> Report from the Committee on Rules and Legislative<00:09:46.840><c>
- </c> >> Long from the Committee on Rules and Legislative Administration, pursuant to Rules 1.21 and 3.33
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AL
Transcript Highlights:
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- President, I have a report from the Committee on Rules.
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- All right, Committee on Rules.
Summary:
The Alabama Senate convened with prayer, the pledge, and a quorum present, then quickly handled routine motions to excuse absent senators, dispense with the prior journal, and allow bills and committee reports throughout the day. The chamber first took up House amendments to Senate Bill 19 on insurance, including a changed start date and a bill name honoring David McHanie and Roy Johnson. On a long roll, the Senate concurred 22-0 with one abstention. Senator Singleton then used personal privilege to present a Black History observance highlighting Nat King Cole, Louis Armstrong, Benjamin O. Davis Sr., and Mahalia Jackson.
Committee reports followed, with the Senate confirming Brandy Williams to the Alabama Fire College and Personnel Standards and Education Commission and Lynn Brewer to the Alabama Board of Heating, Air Conditioning, and Refrigeration Contractors. Senator Singleton spoke at length in support of the trades-related confirmation, emphasizing the importance of skilled labor, contractor oversight, and workforce training, while also discussing the need to support such professions and the role of boards in protecting consumers. The Senate also received favorable reports from Judiciary, Education Policy, Fiscal Responsibility and Economic Development, Tourism, and Local Legislation on a range of bills, many with amendments or substitutes, and placed them on the next day’s calendar.
In motions and resolutions, Senator Elliott recommitted Senate Bill 310 to local legislation and introduced Senate Joint Resolution 50 honoring Coach Tim Carter, which was sent to rules. The Senate adopted Senate Joint Resolution 51 mourning Junior Harold Sorrells and several House resolutions from the Rules Committee, including recognitions for the Alabama State Games, Mack McCutcheon’s retirement, the Black pioneers of Macon County, Alicia Cannon, Joseph William Jones Jr., and Louis Vuitton the Pitbull Day. The chamber also recognized several school leaders in the gallery and then moved into local bills, beginning with Senate Bill 266, a proposed constitutional amendment regarding Covington County, for which a bill reading was requested using the previous roll.
TX
Transcript Highlights:
- It's an honor to be on the committee.
- So she runs the committee from a committee director standpoint, and we welcome her.
- She runs the committee from a committee director standpoint, and we welcome her.
- And finally, talking about customer costs, the last rule I've talked about would be the last rule in
- It's in rule. It's in rule.
Committee:
Senate Business & Commerce
TX
Transcript Highlights:
- Vice Chair Martinez offers the committee substitute.
- And so I just want to say thank you to the committee. I've served on this committee.
- The PUC rules provide the formula for utility rate application.
- There are no established rules for such programs.
- On the motion for recess, the committee stands in recess.
Committee:
House Natural Resources
Keywords:
water audit, water loss, water loss mitigation plan, municipally owned utility, municipal utility, water conservation, Texas Water Development Board, TCEQ, Texas Commission on Environmental Quality, water leakage, leak detection, billing data accuracy, utility validation, water audit validation, water scarcity, water management, infrastructure, public utility, conservation plan, administrative penalty
TX
Texas 89th Regular
Congressional Redistricting, Select Jul 28th, 2025
Congressional Redistricting, Select
Transcript Highlights:
- I do want to reiterate that this committee is going to be governed by the House rules and must be governed
- by the House rules.
- We follow the rules. We're going to follow the guidelines. Rules. Come to order. Come to order.
- Follow the rules.
- And committee members on this registering committee, my name is Celina Vasquez.
Committee:
House Congressional Redistricting, Select
CA
California 2025-2026 Regular Session
Assembly Appropriations Committee Apr 15th, 2026
Transcript Highlights:
- Welcome to the April 15th, 2026, Assembly Appropriations Committee hearing.
- The committee will allow no more than 40 minutes of testimony in total.
- Committee and are eligible for the Assembly floor consent calendar, consistent with the Assembly rules
- the Assembly floor consent calendar, excuse me, consistent with Assembly rules.
- Good morning, Chair Wicks and members of the committee.
Summary:
The Assembly Appropriations Committee met on April 15, 2026, for a regular order hearing on 38 bills. The chair announced that AB 2457 was pulled to a later hearing, reviewed public testimony rules, established a quorum, and approved the consent calendar in two motions. Bills on the consent calendar were moved either to the Assembly floor consent calendar or to the floor non-consent calendar, and the suspense calendar was deemed approved as read.
The committee then heard AB 1917 by Assemblymember Schultz, which would require prosecutors to file an 871.5 motion to reinstate felony charges dismissed at a preliminary hearing for lack of probable cause, rather than simply adding the charges back. The author and supporters, including the San Francisco Public Defender’s Office, Californians for Safety and Justice, California Attorneys for Criminal Justice, and several advocacy groups, argued the bill would improve due process, transparency, and court efficiency by reducing unnecessary litigation and costs. No opposition testimony was presented.
After questions and a motion, the committee took a roll call vote on AB 1917. Members voting were recorded as aye, and the bill passed out of committee. The hearing then concluded and the committee adjourned.
MN
Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session
House Floor Session Feb 20th, 2025
Minnesota House Floor Meeting
Transcript Highlights:
- Report from the Committee of Rules and Legislative Administration.
- Niska from the Committee on Rules and Legislative Administration pursuant to Rules 1.21 and 3.32.
- Interesting how rules change.
- We will call the committee on capital investment and be re-referred to the committee on taxes.
- to the Tax Committee.
WA
Washington 2025-2026 Regular Session
Senate Agriculture & Natural Resources Jan 26th, 2026
Transcript Highlights:
- Good afternoon, Chair Chapman, members of the committee, Jeff Olson, staff to the committee.
- Chair Chapman, members of the committee, Jeff Olson, staff to the committee.
- Good afternoon, Chair Chapman, members of the committee. Jeff Olson, staff to the committee.
- It made it all the way through House Policy Committee and just got hung up in rules both times.
- The committee then took a brief pause before moving to a motion to waive the five-day rule for public
Summary:
The Washington State Senate Agriculture and Natural Resources Committee heard public testimony on several bills. Senate Bill 5930 would create a new conflict-of-interest exception allowing spouses of irrigation district directors to be employed by the district if they were already employed before the director’s election, with disclosure and recusal requirements. The sponsor and a representative of the Washington State Water Resources Association said the bill would help rural irrigation districts recruit and retain workers while keeping safeguards in place. Written testimony was reported as 58 pro and 1 con, and the public hearing was closed.
The committee then heard Senate Bill 6075, which would expand use of the Habitat Conservation Account to help landowners when mitigation requirements from Ecology or Fish and Wildlife are unusually costly or reduce the financial benefit of property by more than half. The sponsor said the bill is intended to provide relief to landowners facing expensive mitigation obligations. No one testified in person, though 296 people signed in pro and 2 con, and the hearing was closed.
Next, the committee heard Senate Bill 6216, a DNR efficiency bill that would modernize timber and land sale notice requirements by moving publication to the agency website, eliminating pamphlet and certain physical posting requirements, and allowing more flexible methods for smaller sales. DNR and forest industry representatives supported the bill as a cost-saving and efficiency measure, and testimony noted that state trust land sales generate significant revenue for public services. Written testimony was reported as 60 pro and 1 con, and the hearing was closed.
Finally, after waiving the five-day notice rule, the committee heard Senate Bill 6233, which would increase criminal wildlife penalty assessments for trafficking in covered animal species and direct half of the penalty revenue to the University of Washington’s Center for Environmental Forensic Science. Committee members asked about the scope of “trade,” the treatment of legally harvested animals, and the center’s role. The center’s director testified that the funding would support wildlife forensic research used to combat illegal wildlife trafficking. Written testimony was reported as 6 pro and 62 con, and the committee concluded its business for the day.
MN
Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session
House Judiciary Finance and Civil Law Committee 2/25/25
Judiciary Finance and Civil Law
Transcript Highlights:
- The committee will hear the Niska bill first.
- My understanding of the rule against perpetuities is kind of the underlying rule here.
- </c> would say that the drafting committee would say that the drafting committee pointed<00:36:01.599
- I spent the last weekend on a study committee, or drafting committee.
- and many study committees.
Committee:
House Judiciary Finance and Civil Law
Keywords:
corporate governance, shareholder rights, beneficial ownership, defective corporate acts, Minnesota Business Corporation Act, trusts, Uniform Trust Code, probate, estate planning, trust protector, directed trust, investment trust advisor, distribution trust advisor, excluded fiduciary, decanting, power of appointment, revocable trust, irrevocable trust, uneconomic trust, rule against perpetuities
MA
Massachusetts 2025-2026 Regular Session
Senate Session Jun 21st, 2026 at 11:00 am
Massachusetts Senate Floor Meeting
Transcript Highlights:
- , Government Affairs Committee and Past President from AASP; Michael Alroy, Past President, AASP; and
- Under the rules, the matter will be referred to the Committee on Transportation. Oppose no.
- It's a title that has been changed by the Committee on Bills and Third Reading.
- Crighton, moves that the rules be suspended.
- Crichton, moves at the rules be suspicious.
Summary:
The Senate opened with the Pledge of Allegiance and adopted a resolution commending the Greater Boston Chapter of the American Society of Safety Professionals for recognizing North American Occupational Safety and Health Week and Occupational Safety and Health Professional Day. Senators welcomed guests from the chapter, and the resolution was adopted by voice vote. The chamber also briefly recessed for a photo with the guests.
The Senate then received a message from the Governor filing the Ride Safe Act, which would enhance the safe use of micromobility devices such as mopeds, electric scooters, and bikes. The message noted the bill’s connection to the Mass Leads Act and a special commission on micromobility regulation. The matter was referred to the Committee on Transportation.
The Senate next took up and passed to be engrossed House No. 5245, establishing a sick leave bank for Courtney Cochran, an employee of the Department of Children and Families. The Senate also adopted an order setting its next formal session for Thursday at 11 a.m. and later considered an order governing filing deadlines for amendments to the General Appropriation Bill and scheduling its second reading on May 19, 2026. The session ended with a motion to adjourn, which was approved.
OK
Oklahoma 2026 Regular Session
Senate Legislative Session Apr 29th, 2026 at 09:00 am
Oklahoma Senate Floor Meeting
Transcript Highlights:
- So it was shocking and surprising to me when my colleagues on the rules committee reached out and said
- I've got a ruling related to a previous Motion that came up.
- The chair rules that the amendment is out of order. Pursuant to Senate Rule 823b.
- Then, pursuant to Rule 1-5, I moved to suspend Rule 823b as to floor substitute two House Bill 1374.
- What's to prevent the rules from becoming punitive or maybe it's just a rule that this campsite can't
Bills:
HB2268 , HB3000 , HB3043 , HB3066 , HB3078 , HB3143 , HB3144 , HB3244 , HB3298 , HB3320 , HB3467 , HB3321 , HB3329 , HB3431 , HB3464 , HB3499 , HB3500 , HB3586 , HB3590 , HB3650 , HB3671 , HB3695 , HB3700 , HB3701 , HB3764 , HB3767 , HB3834 , HB3931 , HB3934 , HB3940 , HB3944 , HB3979 , HB3985 , HB4113 , HB4294 , HB4302 , HB4317 , HB4324 , HB4359 , HB4426 , HB4427 , HB4430 , HB4431 , HB4434 , HJR1077 , SR42 , SR35 , HJR1023 , HB1225 , HB1374 , HB1381 , HB1590 , HB1675 , HB2153
Keywords:
HB2268, Oklahoma Health Care Authority, OHCA, appropriation, General Revenue Fund, PACE, Programs of All-Inclusive Care for the Elderly, elderly care, aging Oklahomans, long-term care, Medicaid, health care funding, provider reimbursement, rate increase, low-income seniors, senior services, integrated care, emergency measure, cosmetology, barbering
KY
Kentucky 2026 Regular Session
House Legislative Session Day 31 (2-20-26)
Kentucky House Floor Meeting
Transcript Highlights:
- The next order of business is a meeting of the Committee on Committees and Rules Committee.
- The House would stand in recess for a meeting of the Committee on Committees and the Rules Committee
- Without objection, the House stands in recess for a meeting of the Committee on Committees and Rules
- Committee at the clerk's desk. committees and rules committee at committees and rules committee at clerk's
- Next order of business: report of the Committee on Committees and Rules Committee.
HI
Transcript Highlights:
- I'm the chair of the committee.
- </c> Committee. Uh the floor is yours. Committee. Uh the floor is yours.
- </c> democratic norms, the unwritten rules democratic norms, the unwritten rules that<00:13:56.560><c
- </c> an atheist who would unleash mob rule. an atheist who would unleash mob rule.
- Just the rules of the built.
Summary:
The Judiciary Committee held an informational briefing with Professor Colin Moore on democratic norms and their erosion in the United States, with a focus on what that could mean for Hawaii. Chair Carl Rhodes introduced the topic and the professor, noting the briefing was livestreamed and could be rescheduled if technical problems arose. Moore defined democratic norms as unwritten guardrails that make written constitutional rules work in practice, emphasizing two core norms from political science: mutual toleration, meaning acceptance of political opponents as legitimate, and institutional forbearance, meaning restraint in using legal powers to the maximum for partisan gain.
Moore used historical examples to show how norms develop and erode, including George Washington’s resignation, the Alien and Sedition Acts, the contested 1800 election, Franklin Roosevelt’s court-packing plan, and Watergate. He argued that democracies usually erode gradually rather than through sudden coups, often through leaders who reject opponents’ legitimacy, tolerate political violence, restrict civil liberties, or attack the press. He said the United States is vulnerable because of its strong presidency, an 18th-century constitutional design that did not anticipate modern political parties or a neutral civil service, and because polarization has encouraged “constitutional hardball” and retaliation.
He cited comparative examples such as Hungary, Turkey, and other countries that slid toward authoritarianism over time, and said the U.S. has been rated a flawed democracy by outside indexes. Moore said the erosion predates Donald Trump, though he believes Trump has accelerated it, and pointed to recent actions and rhetoric as moving beyond ceremony into government practice. He also warned that Congress has not consistently checked executive power and that public willingness to excuse anti-democratic behavior from preferred candidates is troubling. The briefing ended with Moore turning to federalism and Hawaii, arguing that the state depends heavily on federal funding for health care, schools, housing, and infrastructure, and that delays or disruptions from an unstable federal government could create serious local harm even if no law is formally broken.
MA
Massachusetts 2025-2026 Regular Session
Senate Session (Full Formal with Calendar) Jun 21st, 2026 at 12:00 pm
Massachusetts Senate Floor Meeting
Transcript Highlights:
- First, I want to thank the Senate President, the chair on the Senate Committee on Rules, the gentlelady
- The committee has opined on it, and, Mr.
- I would say the committee looks forward to doing the work again on this process.
- It has been vetted by the committee.
- The language is unchanged from what was submitted to the committee.
Summary:
The Senate took up several committee reports, resolutions, and House messages, then moved through a series of bills on the calendar. Early action included adopting a Ways and Means order on Senate Bill 2549, which promotes student learning and mental health, by substituting a new draft and setting amendment deadlines and a second reading date. The chamber also adopted congratulatory resolutions for the Sport Fish Restoration Program’s 75th anniversary and the Hawthorn Hotel’s 100th anniversary, and suspended rules on a sick leave bank petition for a trial court employee and on a House bill validating a special election in Hardwick, which was ordered to a third reading. The Senate also adopted a motion to adjourn in memory of Peter Hayden Lapin of Springfield, a veteran and former public servant.
The Senate then considered Senate Bill 137, renaming and updating references in the General Laws to replace outdated and offensive terms regarding people with intellectual and developmental disabilities. Senators spoke at length in support of the bill, emphasizing respect, disability rights, and the work of advocates such as Melissa Riley and the Arc of Massachusetts. An amendment by Senator Creem replaced “hearing impaired” with “deaf or hard of hearing,” and a corrective amendment by Senator Lovely was also adopted. The bill was then passed to be engrossed by a unanimous 40-0 roll call.
Next, the Senate considered Senate Bill 1034, which repeals archaic laws including sodomy-related provisions, the common nightwalker law, and the blasphemy statute, and creates a commission to review archaic laws going forward. Senators described the measure as a civil liberties and dignity issue, with particular attention to the misuse of the common nightwalker law against women and trans people and the historical injustice of blasphemy laws. Amendments were adopted to add the Supreme Court as a recipient of commission reports and to remove the crime of petite treason. The bill was then passed to be engrossed unanimously, 40-0.
Finally, the Senate considered Senate Bill 2558, the “blue envelope” bill to improve interactions between police officers and people with autism spectrum disorder. Supporters said the voluntary program would help drivers and passengers with ASD during traffic stops and would be made permanent through the Registry of Motor Vehicles, with the State Police and advocacy groups involved. An amendment requiring in-service training by the Massachusetts Police Training Council was adopted, while a proposed yellow-dot amendment for older drivers with chronic illness was rejected 5-34. A Ways and Means amendment was then adopted, and the bill passed to be engrossed unanimously, 39-0. The Senate then adopted an order to meet again the following Monday at 11 a.m. and adjourned.
NH
New Hampshire 2026 Regular Session
House Environment and Agriculture (01/27/2026)
Environment and Agriculture
Transcript Highlights:
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- The committee will continue committee.
- should be in rules is I like rules because they're easier to work amongst a group and pulling rules
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- committee? committee?
Committee:
House Environment and Agriculture