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WA
Washington 2025-2026 Regular Session
House Early Learning & Human Services Jan 16th, 2026 at 08:30 am
Early Learning & Human Services
Transcript Highlights:
- Omera Harrington, Council of this committee.
- Expanding access to high-quality early learning is a stated goal of Washington State, and this change
- would advance that goal at zero cost to the state.
- We have many military bases across our state.
- Eslick, state representative for the 39th District.
Committee:
House Early Learning & Human Services
Keywords:
military families, early childhood education, access, assistance program, education equity, HB2317, early learning, child care licensing, day care, preschool, Head Start, DCYF, Department of Children, Youth, and Families, Washington State, RCW 43.216, child care center, family home provider, family child care, outdoor nature-based child care, school-age child care
FL
Transcript Highlights:
- with the National Institute of Standards and Technology Manufacturing Extension Partnerships of this state
- with the National Institute of Standards and Technology Manufacturing Extension Partnerships of this state
- In the bill, it states that costs and terms must be equivalent to the most favorable cost and terms under
- Literally, you can't widen a road, build a structure, or sell a piece of property in Florida without
- This bill allows experienced out-of-state surveyors to qualify for Florida licensure only if they are
Committee:
Senate Commerce and Tourism
Keywords:
farm equipment, agricultural machinery, farm machinery, tractor, combine, harvester, implements, warranty, lemon law, defective equipment, repair rights, consumer protection, manufacturer liability, authorized service agent, replacement, refund, rural agriculture, urban agriculture, Florida Statutes, chapter 604
Summary:
The Commerce and Tourism Committee met with a quorum and considered several bills, most of them receiving favorable reports. SB 386, relating to farm equipment repair rights, was briefly explained by the sponsor as a lemon-law style measure for farm equipment; it passed without questions or debate. SB 528, aimed at strengthening Florida’s manufacturing sector by expanding Department of Commerce responsibilities, codifying the chief manufacturing officer role, creating a workforce development grant program, and requiring reporting, drew support from several appearance forms and was reported favorably. SB 806, a broader right-to-repair bill covering portable wireless devices and agricultural equipment, drew the most discussion: dealership and industry representatives opposed it, arguing existing manufacturer agreements already provide access to repair information and that the bill could force manufacturers into competition with dealers, while supporters framed it as pro-consumer and pro-repair access; it was still reported favorably. SB 696 on trademark registration modernization and SB 930 creating a Florida Retirement Savings Task Force were both explained as administrative/policy measures and passed without opposition. SB 874, which creates a professional licensure reciprocity path for out-of-state surveyors and mappers to address workforce shortages, also passed favorably.
The committee then took up SB 826 on gift certificates, which the sponsor said is intended to target bank-branded “reward cards” that function like gift cards but expire, while not affecting loyalty programs. The Florida Restaurant and Lodging Association expressed concern about unintended consequences and asked to work on tighter definitions, but the bill was reported favorably after the sponsor said clarifying language would be added later. The committee also heard SB 838, as amended, on electronic payments for retail installment contracts; the sponsor said it would clarify that reasonable convenience fees for optional electronic payments are permissible, require disclosure, and preserve a fee-free option. Members raised concerns about what counts as a “reasonable” fee and whether the bill could authorize junk fees, but the committee substitute was reported favorably.
Several votes were taken by roll call, with the bills above reported favorably and SB 898 temporarily postponed at the sponsor’s request. Members later asked to be recorded as voting affirmatively on bills they had missed. The meeting concluded after the final vote on SB 838 and a motion to adjourn.
TX
Texas 89th 2nd C.S.
89th Legislative Session - Second Called Session Aug 15th, 2025
Texas House Floor Meeting
Transcript Highlights:
- Thank you for letting us live in this great United States.
- Thank you so much, Father, for the state of Texas, and Father, thank you that we all have the privilege
- We thank you for their Families, Father, for what they do, for their great love for the state of Texas
- Please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance to the United States flag and the Texas flag.
- Parliamentary inquiry, state your inquiry.
Keywords:
district composition, congressional election, Texas, legislature, voting districts, youth camps, emergency preparedness, safety standards, health regulations, camp licensing, disaster preparedness, emergency management, flooding, mass fatality, mass casualty, fatality tracking, body recovery, autopsy, justice of the peace, medical examiner
Summary:
The House convened with a strict roll-call enforcement request, but only 95 members were present, so a quorum was not present. The chamber heard an invocation from Furman Carpenter, DPS chaplain, followed by the pledges to the U.S. and Texas flags.
A member raised a parliamentary inquiry asking whether members must be present to make a motion and whether all members who requested strict enforcement were present; the Speaker said he would need to check the journal. The Speaker then announced that the House was about to receive a motion to adjourn sine die and noted that the governor might call another special session soon.
Representative Garin moved that the House of Representatives of the First Called Session of the Eighty-Ninth Legislature adjourn sine die. There was no objection, and the motion carried, ending the session.
AL
Alabama 2025 Regular Session
Alabama Senate Veterans, Military Affairs and Public Safety Committee Apr 30th, 2025
Veterans, Military Affairs, and Public Safety
Transcript Highlights:
- It's the people who actually were part of the program in the state.
Keywords:
emergency vehicles, off-road vehicles, public safety, liability, regulations, foreign nationals, voter identification, driver licenses, immigration documentation, Alabama election law, law enforcement, retirement benefits, Alabama Peace Officers, agency-issued badge, agency-issued pistol, criminal enterprise, database, data privacy, criminal justice, background check
TX
Bills:
SB 250 , SB 375 , SB 536 , SB 845 , SB 1633 , SB 1944 , SB 1957 , SB 2081 , SB 2137 , SB 2262 , SB 2299 , SB 2419 , SB 2452 , SB 2522 , SB 2549 , SB 2594 , SB 2605 , SB 2631 , SB 2639 , SB 2675 , SB 3029 , SJR 60 , HB 22 , HB 1392 , HB 2525
Committee:
Senate Local Government
Keywords:
municipal annexation, railroad, adjacent areas, local government, property rights, healthcare provider, Harris County Hospital District, hospital funding, healthcare services, public health program, home loans, nurses, veterans, public servants, Texas Heroes program, low-interest loans, social workers, housing assistance, housing tax credits, disaster recovery
AL
Alabama 2025 Regular Session
Alabama Senate Finance and Taxation General Fund Committee Apr 2nd, 2025
Finance and Taxation General Fund
Transcript Highlights:
- How many states specifically?
- How many states are we talking about? 20 states...?
- Every state is not the same, and we are an agricultural state.
- Alabama Code Section 17-1-16-2 outlines how our state conducts recounts.
- Um, it's by the state. The fiscal note is $35,000 for the state.
Committee:
Senate Finance and Taxation General Fund
Keywords:
SB245, public assistance, Medicaid, SNAP, food assistance, Alabama Medicaid Agency, Department of Human Resources, eligibility verification, self-attestation, data matching, fraud prevention, improper payments, program integrity, benefit eligibility, income verification, residency verification, asset verification, electronic benefit transfer, EBT, cross-checks
MN
Transcript Highlights:
- </c> general manager of the Minnesota state general manager of the Minnesota state fa Mr.
- not usual buildings.
- Maybe we ought to demolish the building and rebuild a new building, but these are historic buildings
- not usual buildings.
- Maybe we ought to demolish the building and rebuild a new building, but these are historic buildings
Committee:
House Taxes
Keywords:
sales tax, education funding, construction, Aitkin Public Schools, tax exemption, refundable credit, HF148, use of force training, deadly force, peace officer training, police training, law enforcement, POST Board, Board of Peace Officer Standards and Training, scenario-based training, de-escalation, defensive tactics, force-on-force training, stress management, officer wellness
MN
Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session
Agriculture Committee Meeting - 2025-03-26
Agriculture Finance and Policy
Transcript Highlights:
- want schools and local farmers to consider a new market; this is a potential space they can enter to build
- So OGM and state law require us to do a competitive process for anything over $5,000.
- We check to see that they're in good standing with the Secretary of State.
- So that we can move forward on these parts, whether the state does it or whether the federal government
- Chair Hanson, would you like to state anything further? Thank you, Mr.
Committee:
House Agriculture Finance and Policy
Keywords:
beginning farmers, agriculture, loans, economic opportunity, farmers' equity, agriculture appropriations, farm to school, early care, child care food program, school lunch program, local food, Minnesota agriculture, food access, farm-to-institution, limited market access, county fairs, biofuels, E25, ethanol, meat processing
MN
Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session
House Commerce Finance and Policy Committee 3/26/25
Commerce Finance and Policy
Transcript Highlights:
- the state.
- the state.
- the state.
- the state.
- the state.
Committee:
House Commerce Finance and Policy
Keywords:
homeowners insurance, property insurance, commercial property insurance, insurance affordability, insurance market stabilization, reinsurance, catastrophic reinsurance fund, self-insured pool, premium costs, coverage notice, liability reform, climate risk, climate change, housing affordability, multifamily housing, rental housing, common interest communities, cooperatives, small business insurance, Minnesota Commerce Department
MN
Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session
House Agriculture Finance and Policy Committee 3/26/25
Agriculture Finance and Policy
Transcript Highlights:
- We check to see that they're in good standing with the Secretary of State.
- ,</c><00:44:07.680><c> the</c> having raw milk around the state, the having raw milk around the state
- influenza impacting uh our state, it's influenza impacting uh our state, it's better<00:48:43.520><c>
- Chair Hansen, would you like to state anything further?
- </c> Hansen, would you like to to state Hansen, would you like to to state anything<00:55:37.520><c>
Committee:
House Agriculture Finance and Policy
Keywords:
beginning farmers, agriculture, loans, economic opportunity, farmers' equity, agriculture appropriations, farm to school, early care, child care food program, school lunch program, local food, Minnesota agriculture, food access, farm-to-institution, limited market access, county fairs, biofuels, E25, ethanol, meat processing
AL
Alabama 2025 Regular Session
Alabama House Fiscal Responsibility Committee Mar 19th, 2025
Fiscal Responsibility
Transcript Highlights:
- The state of Alabama is the same, much like the other 49 states. There can always be improvements.
- We're not doing our jobs effectively if we're not slowly building back to the culture of trying to build
- In state government, the dollars may be big, but things get scrutinized a lot more at the state level
- education in the state.
- I know you've compared our state higher spending to other states.
Committee:
House Fiscal Responsibility
Keywords:
business regulation, nonprofit entities, electronic filing, merger agreements, limited liability companies, partnerships, property transfer, termination fees, HB140, private sewer systems, wastewater utilities, Public Service Commission, PSC jurisdiction, utility regulation, rate setting, rate consolidation, affiliated systems, common ownership, private utilities, sewer rates
CA
California 2025-2026 Regular Session
Senate Local Government Committee Apr 29th, 2026
Local Government
Transcript Highlights:
- Jeremy Smith here on behalf of the State Building and Construction Trades Council.
- We are, as the senator alluded to, working with her on some of the state building and construction trades
- And frankly, if the state, my home state, wants out of the housing crisis, it has to build out.
- Trades Council, and Vince Segrue, the State Legislative Director of Sheet Metal Workers Local 104.
- Jeremy Smith, you're on behalf of the State Building and Construction Trades Council.
Committee:
Senate Local Government
Summary:
The Senate Committee on Local Government met to hear a long agenda of local government, housing, labor, and transparency bills. The committee first adopted the consent calendar for SB 1187 and SB 1388, then heard SB 983, which would authorize the Port of San Diego to use job order contracting for repairs and repetitive maintenance work. Supporters said the bill would speed emergency and small repairs and reduce costs, while opponents raised concerns about construction definitions and project labor agreement language. The bill was ultimately moved forward on a 2-2 vote after discussion of amendments and labor negotiations, and later the committee’s final roll call showed it passing out on a 5-2 vote.
The committee also heard SB 1256, aimed at limiting duplicative litigation over a San Diego County housing project, and SB 992, which would make permanent and expand a small special-district audit flexibility by raising the revenue threshold from $150,000 to $250,000. SB 1256 drew support from the author and project counsel, who argued the project had already been litigated and was delaying needed housing, while opponents said the bill would interfere with wildfire and subdivision-map review. SB 992 had support from county auditors and special districts, with no opposition, and was approved 5-0. SB 1115, addressing governance failures at the Tulare County Public Cemetery District by allowing county supervisors to remove an individual trustee for cause, also passed unanimously after testimony describing serious dysfunction and opposition from the California Special Districts Association.
The committee then took up SB 1193, which would impose transparency and approval requirements on Alameda County discretionary funding to nonprofits and other entities. The author and supporters described the bill as a response to grand jury findings and alleged conflicts of interest, while Alameda County argued its current process is already transparent and that the bill would add burdens and could harm services. After amendments and discussion, the bill passed 5-0. SB 1383, a density bonus law bill clarifying that local labor standards cannot be waived through density bonus concessions, was supported by labor groups and moved forward despite no opposition, with the final roll call showing it passing out 5-1. SB 1361, intended to prevent local governments from undermining transit projects because of SB 79 density concerns, also passed after support from L.A. Metro and labor and no formal opposition, with the final vote recorded as 5-2. The committee later resumed to hear SB 1272, the CASH Act, which would limit certain sanctions on homeowners for prior unpermitted work by previous owners; the transcript cuts off before that bill’s full testimony and vote.
ID
Transcript Highlights:
- Good morning and welcome to Senate State Affairs.
- And it doesn’t change limitations in state code that exist currently on an individual’s ability to carry
- And their city council didn't care.
- If you're wondering, other states have designated state guns; there are 10.
- So would that be done in code? I mean, would that be done in rules? So would that be done in code?
Committee:
Senate State Affairs
HI
Hawaii 2026 Regular Session
PSM-EIG, PSM DEFER, PSM, PSM-EDU Public Hearings 02-13-2026
Public Safety and Military Affairs
Transcript Highlights:
- First up between the joint committees is relating to the State Building Code Council and for the State
- First up between the joint committees is relating to the State Building Code Council and the State Office
- ><c> to</c> the state building code council to the state building code council to establish<00:02:46.640
- building code council.
- The um building code council.
Committee:
Senate Public Safety and Military Affairs
Summary:
The committees heard and then took action on several measures. Senate Bill 3048, relating to the State Building Code Council and the Office of Planning and Sustainable Development, received support from OPSD and the Chamber of Commerce, with OPSD requesting amendments tied to software licensing and a public permitting dashboard. The committees ultimately recommended passing the bill with amendments, including an effective date, and later adopted that recommendation by vote. Senate Bill 3083, relating to protective orders, drew support from the U.S. Defense State Liaison Office, the Military and Community Relations Office, and a member of the public, while the Judiciary asked that the bill be deferred or amended because a prior notification process had lapsed and a new mandate could be difficult to implement. The committees nevertheless recommended passage with amendments and an effective date, noting implementation concerns in the report, and that recommendation was adopted.
The committees also considered Senate Bill 3010, which would allow law enforcement, animal control officers, and firefighters to enter unattended vehicles to rescue animals in distress. The Animal Legal Defense Fund supported the measure as a common-sense good Samaritan protection, and the Hawaii Association for Justice recommended a small amendment. The bill was recommended for passage with amendments and later adopted. Senate Bill 3187, relating to off-site construction and SPEED Task Force recommendations, received OPSD testimony in support with comments; the committees recommended passing it with amendments, deleting the dollar amount and adding an effective date, and adopted that recommendation.
In a later joint hearing with the Committee on Education, Senate Bill 2138, which would expand the Hawaii National Guard State Tuition Assistance Program to graduate study, received support from the University of Hawaii, the Department of Defense, the Hawaii Army National Guard, and the U.S. Defense State Liaison Office. Members asked whether the current law limited assistance to undergraduate degrees and whether the program would require new funding; witnesses said the bill would simply expand authority and could be implemented within the current budget. Senate Bill 2614, authorizing high school diplomas for certain veterans whose schooling was interrupted by military service or wartime practices, also drew support from DOE and the U.S. Defense State Liaison Office, with DOE explaining it had previously issued diplomas under an earlier version of the law and would verify eligibility through an application process. Senate Bill 2687, requiring a 100th Infantry Battalion history curriculum plan and pilot program, drew mixed testimony: DOE said the topic is already covered in existing social studies standards and the bill was unnecessary, while supporters argued the history is not being consistently taught and should be mandated. The transcript cuts off before final action on the education bills.
ID
Transcript Highlights:
- Cities can still enforce building codes, safety standards, and reasonable design requirements.
- There are obviously nuances in how each state drafts code, but to your question and a prior question,
- passed something similar to this there is obviously nuances in how each state drafts code but to your
- Cities retain authority over building codes, infrastructure capacity, environmental protections, and
- So LUPA, the state code, has not been, but again, it's the Local Land Use Planning Act.
Committee:
House Business
Summary:
The committee first handled routine business, approving minutes from several February and March meetings, and thanked the page for her service. It then took up Senate Bill 1354, which would create a statewide framework for accessory dwelling units (ADUs), requiring cities over 10,000 population to allow one internal or attached ADU per lot while preserving existing HOA restrictions and historic district exemptions. Supporters argued the bill would expand housing options, protect property rights, and help families with aging parents, adult children, or rental income; opponents from the HOA and insurance community warned it could increase density, rentals, parking and utility strain, and insurance costs, especially if short-term rentals increase. After sponsor clarifications on county exclusion, HOA rules, and infrastructure limits, the committee passed SB 1354 on a 10-4 roll call vote and sent it to the floor with a do-pass recommendation.
The committee next heard Senate Bill 1297, the Conversational AI Safety Act, which would set transparency and safety standards for conversational AI services, especially for minors. The bill requires disclosures that users are interacting with AI, guardrails against sexually explicit content and romantic/sentient personas for minors, limits gamification techniques that encourage addictive use, and parental controls. Google testified in support, saying it already uses similar safety-by-design measures and that the bill would create consistent industry standards; members asked about how operators would identify minors and whether the bill would apply to out-of-state providers. The committee approved SB 1297 as amended and sent it to the floor with a do-pass recommendation.
Finally, the committee heard Senate Bill 1352, which would require cities over 10,000 population to allow “starter home subdivisions” with smaller lots and modest setbacks, while preventing higher fees for those homes and allowing denials for infrastructure, safety, or environmental reasons. The sponsor framed it as a response to rising home prices and delayed first-time homeownership, while supporters from housing and building groups said smaller lots could lower costs and expand supply. City and resident testimony opposed the bill as a state override of local planning and zoning, arguing it would impose high-density development and weaken local control; city representatives also said the bill’s lot-size language was being misunderstood and that they had not had enough input in drafting. Despite those concerns, the committee passed SB 1352 as amended with a do-pass recommendation after discussion of its effect on local land-use authority and deed restrictions.
WA
Washington 2025-2026 Regular Session
House Finance Jan 27th, 2026
Transcript Highlights:
- So this is not specific to our state building a small modular reactor.
- As you heard from Council Member Eskull, we are seeking clarity in the state law around REIT 2.
- So, not quite a state, but they had this on the books as well, and their income tax code recently have
- House Bill 2257 makes a number of administrative and technical changes to the state tax code.
- if the state loses.
Summary:
House Finance heard bill briefings and testimony on several tax and property-tax measures. HB 2175 would exempt licensed nonprofit providers of free durable medical equipment from retail sales and use tax on items reasonably necessary to operate and provide care; the sponsor and a nonprofit provider described how the bill would help organizations that refurbish and donate wheelchairs, beds, walkers, and similar equipment, and staff noted a small Department of Revenue fiscal impact. The committee then heard HB 2608, which revises the targeted urban area property tax exemption for nuclear facility projects by requiring labor standards, including submission of a workforce or project labor agreement and related wage/apprenticeship information, and extending project-completion deadlines. Supporters said it would help attract major clean-energy and nuclear supply-chain investment and jobs, while opponents from construction groups, environmental advocates, and some public commenters objected to the PLA requirement, the tax preference for nuclear projects, and the broader policy direction; tribal consultation concerns were also raised. No votes were taken on these bills in the transcript.
The committee also heard HB 2227, which expands an existing REET exemption for affordable homeownership sales from self-help housing to other nonprofit affordable homeownership programs, including community land trusts. The sponsor and nonprofit witnesses said the change would lower transaction costs, improve affordability, and support permanently affordable resale models; staff clarified the exemption applies to the initial sale from the nonprofit to an income-qualified buyer, not later resales. HB 2528 would allow cities and counties that fully plan under the Growth Management Act to impose the second local REET without voter approval, aligning opt-in jurisdictions with those required to plan under GMA. Supporters from cities and counties said the revenue would help fund sidewalks, ADA upgrades, water, sewer, and other infrastructure, while opponents argued it would raise home-selling costs and bypass voters.
Finally, the committee heard HB 2292, which would subject long-term capital gains from qualified small business stock to the state capital gains tax beginning in 2026. Staff said the bill would affect about 260 taxpayers and raise roughly $1.2 million in FY 2027, while the sponsor and supporters argued the current QSBS exemption mainly benefits very wealthy investors and should be treated like other capital gains; opponents from the tech and startup community said the exemption helps founders attract investment, keep companies in Washington, and create jobs, and warned the bill would send a negative signal to entrepreneurs. The committee also heard HB 2257, a Department of Revenue request bill making technical and administrative changes to the tax code, largely to codify guidance from last year’s sales-tax-on-services law and make other clarifications; DOR said it was intended to provide certainty and had no fiscal impact. School groups testified that the 5814-related service-tax changes have increased costs for districts, especially for staffing and professional learning, and asked for relief or a broader exemption.
AZ
Transcript Highlights:
- Welcome to the United States Army and to the House.
- This provides real targeted solutions at the state level.
- As a former retail worker, the merchant codes and the codes that we use give us a lot of data.
- As a former retail worker, the merchant codes and the codes that we use give us a lot of data.
- property tax is funded by all state taxpayers.
Summary:
The House convened with prayer, the Pledge of Allegiance, approval of the prior journal, and several points of personal privilege recognizing guests, including a newly graduated Army servicemember, the Doctor of the Day, and members of Delta Sigma Theta visiting for Delta Day at the Capitol. The chamber also adopted a proclamation designating April 10, 2026, as Founders Day in the City of Tolleson, with remarks highlighting the city’s history and the Whoopi Days Festival. The House then appointed a conference committee on HB 2874 after voting not to concur in Senate amendments.
The House considered several bills in Committee of the Whole. On SB 1058, a floor amendment offered by Rep. Gutierrez to address gun trafficking, merchant codes, and related enforcement tools failed by a vote of 17-32, and the bill was then recommended do pass. SB 1094, dealing with civil liability related to gender transition procedures for minors, drew extended debate over constitutionality, medical liability, and impacts on physicians and patients, and it was also recommended do pass. SB 1136, SB 1422, and SB 1663 (with a Blackman floor amendment adopted) each received do pass recommendations.
Later, the House adopted Committee of the Whole reports placing SB 1075 and SB 1202 on third reading, retaining SB 1419 on the calendar, and advancing SCM 1004 and SCM 1007. On third reading, the House passed SB 1024, SB 1148, SB 1232, SB 1293, and SB 1586, with members explaining votes on issues including vehicle registration, Supreme Court administration, outdoor advertising and zoning, GPLET tax policy, and state agency matters. The chamber then recessed briefly for announcements and personal privilege remarks, and finally adjourned until 10:00 a.m. on Thursday, April 9, 2026.
AL
Alabama 2026 Regular Session
Alabama House Constitution, Campaigns and Elections Committee Feb 18th, 2026
Constitution, Campaigns and Elections
Transcript Highlights:
- It didn't say in state code what we had to do.
- It didn't say in state code what we had to do.
- , and state code contradicted.
- ><c> code</c><00:13:34.480><c> contradicted</c><00:13:35.120><c> itself</c> was that state code contradicted
- It didn't say in state code left out.
Committee:
House Constitution, Campaigns and Elections
Keywords:
abandoned roads, land ownership, government regulations, property rights, transportation, Ten Commandments, public education, displays, funding, Alabama law, municipal elections, runoff elections, majority voting, electoral procedures, local governance, campaign finance, record retention, political action committees, Fair Campaign Practices Act, 1136
MN
Transcript Highlights:
- has a statewide building code.
- So we've long had a statewide building code. Not every state does.
- that has a Statewide dozen or so states that has a Statewide building<00:25:30.440><c> code</c><00:25
- codes across different Changing building codes across different cities<00:25:38.520><c> really</c><00
- code not every a Statewide building code not every state<00:25:43.960><c> does</c><00:25:44.720><c>
Committee:
Senate Labor
CA
California 2025-2026 Regular Session
Joint Hearing Senate Education Committee and Assembly Education Committee Jan 20th, 2026
Transcript Highlights:
- representation, not creating excess costs to the state.
- They are already affecting students across our state.
- , financial literacy through the mayor's Dollar Wise Council.
- And in state government, everything costs more.
- And so some guidance from the state is the right approach.