Video & Transcript Research : 'state borrowing'

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NM

New Mexico 2025 Regular Session

IC - Investments and Pensions Oversight Oct 8th, 2025

Investments & Pensions Oversight Committee

Transcript Highlights:
  • Other states.
  • The state and local governments borrow money for state prisons, roads, schools, and so forth.
  • Municipalities always say the state needs to do more. The state has money.
  • There's nothing to say that the state couldn't increase contributions for state employees or the state
  • from the state.
WY

Wyoming 2026 Regular Session

House Minerals, Business & Economic Development Committee, February 25, 2026

Minerals, Business & Economic Development

Transcript Highlights:
  • or you're borrowing it out of the Lisra. or you're borrowing it out of the Lisra.
  • <00:26:28.640> Kerr the state of Wyoming. I'll let Mr. Kerr the state of Wyoming.
  • <00:27:42.000> and that is capable of paying uh state and that is capable of paying uh state
  • <00:55:19.599> chief January 1st, 2027, the state chief January 1st, 2027, the state chief
  • <01:04:51.680> despite we're one of the worst states despite we're one of the worst states
Bills: HB0075, HB0128
TX

Texas 89th 2nd C.S.

Energy Resources Mar 3rd, 2025

Energy Resources

Transcript Highlights:
  • Columbia all have a State Energy office.
  • And our office is a designated state energy office for. The state of Texas.
  • for, uh, updating our state energy security plan.
  • and contracting all over the state.
  • Just last year, as the handout demonstrates, $27.3 billion were paid in state and local taxes and state
MA

Massachusetts 2025-2026 Regular Session

Joint Committee on Labor and Workforce Development Jun 21st, 2026 at 10:00 am

Joint Committee on Labor and Workforce Development

Transcript Highlights:
  • Have any other states tried to correct it with legislation passed in other states?
  • Additionally, for your multi-state employers in the state of Massachusetts, we have several states that
  • No other state has this.
  • No other state has this.
  • It should really be on this state to ensure that workers. to earn the state minimum wage.
Keywords: 995, all
Summary: The Joint Committee on Labor and Workforce Development held a hybrid public hearing with testimony on a wide range of labor, workforce, unemployment insurance, apprenticeship, disability services, farm labor, hospital staffing, and workplace harassment bills. Chairs Jake Oliveira and Paul McMurtry outlined hearing procedures, limited testimony to two minutes, and noted written testimony would be accepted after the hearing. Committee members and staff were introduced throughout the session as witnesses arrived in person or remotely. A major portion of the hearing focused on unemployment insurance legislation. Greater Boston Legal Services, the AFL-CIO, and Rep. Joan Meschino supported bills to adjust UI eligibility for workers with fluctuating schedules and to streamline waivers and write-offs for non-fault overpayments, arguing the current system unfairly denies benefits or burdens workers who were not at fault. They also backed bills calling for more oversight and resources for the Division of Unemployment Assistance, citing persistent delays in benefit payments. NFIB opposed the UI changes, warning that the trust fund is headed toward insolvency and arguing the bills would worsen the system’s finances. Rep. Meschino and committee members emphasized that the proposals were meant to protect good-faith claimants and did not apply to fraud. Another large set of bills addressed wages, workforce development, and working conditions. Testimony supported raising and modernizing direct care wages to address severe staffing shortages in human services and disability services, with advocates from the Massachusetts Developmental Disability Council, The Arc of Massachusetts, parents of adults with disabilities, and a direct care worker describing how low pay and turnover harm people needing support. The committee also heard support for apprenticeship-related bills from the AFL-CIO and the Carpenters, while Associated Builders and Contractors opposed mandatory apprenticeship ratios and urged changes to align them with licensing laws. Farm worker advocates supported a bill to raise farm labor standards, including minimum wage, paid breaks, and paid time off, while the Farm Bureau opposed parts of it beyond the minimum wage increase. The hearing also featured testimony on workplace harassment training, overtime protections, hospital mandatory overtime, suicide prevention signage on construction sites, and a proposal to update the Massachusetts Medical Society’s mission language from “citizens” to “people.” Labor groups, educators, and compliance trainers strongly supported mandatory annual sexual harassment training, saying it would improve workplace culture and reduce harm. SEIU 1199 supported extending the hospital nurse mandatory overtime ban to the broader hospital workforce. Witnesses on the suicide prevention bill described personal losses in construction and recovery work and urged posting 988 information on job sites. The committee took no votes during the hearing; witnesses repeatedly asked for favorable reports, and members asked follow-up questions on UI calculations, apprenticeship ratios, small-business impacts, and emergency exceptions for hospital staffing.
HI

Hawaii 2025 Regular Session

WAM-HOU Informational Briefing 02-06-2025

Hawaii Senate Floor Meeting

Transcript Highlights:
  • We primarily focus on state lands, so we do look at the inventory of state lands and see if housing can
  • be developed on state lands.
  • because there are a number of State because there are a number of State projects<00:19:41.360>
  • We did adjust the points to give more to state projects, and basically a state project would be awarded
  • > project projects and basically a state project projects and basically a state project would<
Keywords: 912, senate, all
TX

Texas 89th Regular

Energy Resources Mar 3rd, 2025

Energy Resources

Transcript Highlights:
  • and contracting all over the state.
  • So, Texas, we're military state USA, right?
  • We were the first state to ask for the second.
  • Less than 20 years ago, the United States imported— less than 20 years ago, the United States was— importing
  • And of course, state severance taxes.
Keywords: 1184, house, all
MN
Transcript Highlights:
  • In states with safe in gun violence.
  • > safe Conversely, states with weak safe Conversely, states with weak safe storage<00:18:08.880
  • <00:18:15.600> in behind more than 10 other states in behind more than 10 other states in
  • Preventing it the United States.
  • have we have a billion dollar state have we have a billion dollar state office<00:47:46.400>
Keywords: 919, house, all
Summary: The committee took up House File 4893, a school safety and gun violence prevention bill, and first adopted a DE1 amendment before hearing the bill. The author and supporters described the measure as a layered approach to school safety, combining increased funding for student support personnel, required school safety plans, and anonymous threat reporting systems. They cited research from the Violence Prevention Project and other sources arguing that many school shooters are insiders, often show warning signs, and frequently leak plans beforehand, making early intervention and trusted adults in schools important. Members and testifiers also discussed the bill’s firearm storage provisions. Representative Green explained that the bill would require firearms on school property and in vehicles to be unloaded and locked, and would limit or remove principals’ discretion to allow firearms in school buildings, while preserving access for trained school security personnel. Supporters said the bill would improve clarity and safety for schools, while a representative from private schools raised concerns that the language could limit flexibility and create staffing and accountability problems for non-public schools, prompting discussion of possible amendments. Several student and organizational testifiers supported the bill, including students from Edina High School, Education Minnesota, the Minnesota School Counselors Association, and the Children’s Defense Fund Minnesota. They emphasized the impact of gun violence on students’ mental health and learning, the value of anonymous reporting systems, and the need to invest in counselors, social workers, psychologists, and nurses. No final vote on the bill was taken in the portion provided, but the committee did adopt the DE1 amendment and continued discussion of possible changes, including with the BCA and school safety center.
KY
Transcript Highlights:
  • It's the state funding that comes this.
  • Um as you can see, the locals state.
  • Um the state equalization have gone up.
  • the facility need is across the state the facility need is across the state currently.<00:08:55.040
  • certain elements where the United States certain elements where the United States is<00:48:25.200
Summary: The committee received an informational presentation from the Kentucky Department of Education and the School Facilities Construction Commission on school facilities funding. Staff explained the main funding sources used for school construction and renovation, including the mandatory “nickel” property tax levy, growth and equalized growth nickels, the equalized facility funding nickel, the Fort Knox/BRAC-related nickel for Hardin County, and the recallable nickel that districts can adopt locally. They also described the state equalization formula, noting that local construction costs have risen and that state support is formula-driven rather than a dollar-for-dollar match. The SFCC outlined how unmet facility need is calculated through district facility plans, which are developed locally with community, staff, and board input and then reviewed by KDE staff for consistency and reasonableness. The commission said it will update the statewide unmet need report this fall, adopt it in December, and provide the figure to the committee in January 2026. It reported that the statewide unmet facility need was about $7 billion in 2023, with about $951 million in local revenue available, and said its offers of assistance are paid as debt service over eight years. The commission also said the most recent legislative offer of assistance was its smallest since SFCC’s creation in 1985, and requested an additional $60 million for the next biennium. Members asked about how districts use nickel tax levies, who determines facility need, whether the process includes physical inspections, and how bonding capacity affects offers of assistance. Staff said nickel levies are generally adopted with regular tax rates, that facility need is locally developed but reviewed by KDE, and that KDE project managers and district-hired architects review plans on paper rather than through in-person inspections. They also explained that bonding capacity can affect a district’s ability to use or receive assistance. Questions were also raised about federal funds tied to earlier KIX grants and about districts with zero remaining offers of assistance; staff said most grant-funded projects are underway or complete, and that a zero balance means a district has spent its available assistance. No votes or formal actions were taken.
NM

New Mexico 2026 Regular Session

Senate Chamber Feb 19th, 2026 at 08:53 am

New Mexico Senate Floor Meeting

Transcript Highlights:
  • We do have services supported by the state.
  • But the battery went dead on her wheelchair, which was issued through the state, and the state would
  • And just, I think lastly on this one is there any type of state grants that the state that these private
  • The IRS would impute income to the borrower even if interest is not charged by the state.
  • In other words, when the state makes this loan, does the state take a mortgage?
Bills: SB273, SB37, SB100
CA

California 2025-2026 Regular Session

Senate Floor Session May 18th, 2026

California Senate Floor Meeting

Transcript Highlights:
  • For this state, for the world, and for everyone in this room.
  • . ...and many others who continue to enrich the fabric of our state.
  • Senate Bill 1398 by Senator Rubio, an act relating to state buildings.
  • I rise today in memory of former state and United States Senator John Seymour.
  • I rise today in memory of former state and United States Senator John Seymour.
Keywords: 987, senate, all
MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

Committee on Finance - 04/30/26

Finance

Transcript Highlights:
  • <00:04:20.040> is<00:04:20.160> the<00:04:20.280> $15 from all around the state
  • We save money as a state when benefit.
  • We save money as a state when we<00:04:44.840> help<00:04:45.080> people<00:04:45.400><
  • fund, instead be deposited in the state fund, instead be deposited in the state elections<00:21:
  • See, I can borrow somebody's phone.
Keywords: 1187, senate, all
CA

California 2025-2026 Regular Session

Senate Emergency Management Committee Apr 21st, 2026

Emergency Management

Transcript Highlights:
  • It outlines existing issues within governor-declared states of emergencies.
  • States of emergency ...budget or legislative process.
  • Some are leaving the state altogether.
  • Hello, I'm Connie Chana on behalf of California State Treasurer Fiona Ma.
  • Hello, I'm Connie Channa on behalf of California State Treasurer Fiona Ma.
Summary: The Senate Emergency Management Committee heard several wildfire- and emergency-related bills. SB 1270 by Senator Richardson would expand the California Wildfire Mitigation Program to more counties and direct future funding toward areas with the greatest wildfire risk and social vulnerability; supporters included CSAC and the South Coast Air Quality Management District. SB 1079 by Senator Stern would create a permanent fire innovation unit within Cal Fire to identify operational needs, test new technologies, and speed deployment of successful tools; it drew support from Megafire Action, fire agencies, and several advocacy groups. SB 1020 by Senator Niello would require annual reporting on open gubernatorial states of emergency, including spending and lessons learned, to increase legislative oversight without limiting emergency powers; the LAO provided technical assistance on the bill. SB 894 by Senator Allen would establish a wildfire resilience loan program modeled on Go Green to help finance home hardening and defensible space improvements, with broad support from state, local, environmental, and credit union interests. Testimony on the bills emphasized wildfire risk, the need for broader home hardening access, and the value of innovation and oversight in emergency management. Supporters of SB 894 said grants alone cannot meet the scale of needed mitigation and that low-cost financing could leverage private capital. Supporters of SB 1079 argued California needs a more formal system to connect firefighters with innovators and scale proven technologies. On SB 1020, the author and committee discussed balancing executive emergency authority with transparency and accountability. There was no recorded opposition to the measures during testimony. After discussion, the committee accepted amendments on the bills and voted to pass SB 894, SB 973, SB 1020, SB 1270, and SB 1079 as amended to the Senate Appropriations Committee. The transcript shows multiple roll calls as quorum was established and absent members were called; each bill ultimately received unanimous support from members present and was reported out of committee.
CA

California 2025-2026 Regular Session

Senate Emergency Management Committee Apr 21st, 2026

Emergency Management

Transcript Highlights:
  • states of emergencies.
  • States of emergency ...budget or legislative process.
  • Some are leaving the state altogether.
  • Hello, I'm Connie Channa on behalf of California State Treasurer Fiona Ma.
  • Hello, I'm Connie Channa on behalf of California State Treasurer Fiona Ma.
Keywords: 987, senate, all
HI

Hawaii 2026 Regular Session

CPN Public Hearing 04-16-2026

Commerce and Consumer Protection

Transcript Highlights:
  • Good morning and welcome to the Hawaii State Senate Committee on Commerce and Consumer Protection.
  • I'll prioritize state energy goals on the path to 100% clean energy in 2045.
  • Pretty much every state, every utility has some form of this going at...
  • Pretty much every state, every utility has some form of this going at...
  • Pretty much every state, every utility has some form of this going at...
Keywords: 912, senate, all
Summary: The Senate Commerce and Consumer Protection Committee heard and considered a long list of Governor’s messages for appointments to state boards and commissions, including the Board of Dentistry, Barbering and Cosmetology, Speech Pathology and Audiology, Motor Vehicle Industry Licensing Board, Elevator Mechanics Licensing Board, Real Estate Commission, Board of Naturopathic Medicine, State Boxing Commission, Board of Professional Engineers, Architects, Surveyors and Landscape Architects, Hawaii Medical Board, Board of Physical Therapy, Board of Pharmacy, and the Public Utilities Commission. Most nominees and supporting agencies testified in support, and many nominees simply stood on their written testimony. Several nominees also answered questions about their experience and the issues facing their boards, including dental insurance and Medicaid concerns, condo and real estate disputes, pharmacy regulation and telepharmacy, boxing and MMA rule updates, and medical board service in rural areas. The committee discussed some contested or notable nominations in more detail. Richard Emery’s nomination to the Real Estate Commission drew opposition testimony tied to a condo management dispute, and he responded by emphasizing the need for factual evidence, mediation and complaint data, and better consumer education. Trinette Kahui and Andrea Ushijima were also nominated to the Real Estate Commission, with broad support. For the Boxing Commission, Robin Jumawan described ongoing statutory updates, MMA-related work, and delegation of amateur boxing rules. For the Hawaii Medical Board, Elizabeth Ignacio was strongly endorsed by state and industry witnesses as highly qualified and familiar with rural health issues, while Rebecca Sawai also received support from the board and Kaiser Permanente. In the decision-making portion, the committee moved to advise and consent to nearly all nominees on the agenda. Senator McKelvey stated reservations about Richard Emery due to opposition and possible conflicts, and also about nominees who were not present at the hearing, specifically Corrine Muldrow Soto and Stacie Kealoha Inouye; Senator Lamasao also noted reservations on those absent nominees. The chair disclosed personal acquaintance with Dr. Sawai and Andrea Ushijima. The committee then voted to adopt the recommendations, with the noted reservations and one no vote on GM 697 reflected in the record, and later reconvened to take up Governor’s Message 514/515 for John Etemura as chairperson of the Public Utilities Commission, where additional support testimony was heard from the Governor’s office, DCCA, and former consumer advocacy staff.
MA

Massachusetts 2025-2026 Regular Session

Joint Committee on Public Service Jun 21st, 2026 at 01:00 pm

Joint Committee on Public Service

Transcript Highlights:
  • I actually borrowed these cheaters from Mike Jay. I can't really see.
  • And definitely the federal and the state, where we, as you know, apply for grants all the time.
  • As you see in the recent budget process, we get funding through the state and then funding federally
  • Just a quick point: I met with the state fire marshal in this whole issue of replacement of gear.
  • Future police officers, state troopers, and firefighters.
Keywords: 995, all
Summary: The Joint Committee on Public Service held its fifth hearing of the 194th General Court on disability, line-of-duty, and health presumption bills. Committee members noted the hearing was livestreamed and accepted written testimony through June 16, 2025. The first panel, including the Massachusetts Coalition of Police, strongly supported H.2845, which would require restoration of sick, vacation, or personal time used while an injured officer or firefighter awaits a Chapter 41, Section 11F determination if the injury is later found work-related. Testimony said the current process often forces injured personnel to litigate to recover accrued time, and members described the bill as a fairness measure with no fiscal cost. Committee members asked about prior consideration and municipal positions, and one member shared a personal experience with a similar loss of accrued time. A second major panel from the Professional Firefighters of Massachusetts and sponsoring legislators supported several firefighter-related bills: H.2918/S.1792 on mandatory insurance coverage for firefighter cancer screenings; H.2962/S.1818 on Commonwealth fire department parity for military-base and Massport firefighters, including injury coverage and presumptions; and H.2860/S.1851 on maintaining physical examination records. Testimony emphasized the high cancer risk in the fire service, the importance of early detection, and the need to extend municipal-level protections to state and Massport firefighters. Committee members expressed strong support, discussed PFAS-related gear replacement and funding, and noted that similar bills have been before the committee for multiple sessions. The committee also heard H.4147, a retirement-related bill for a MassDOT employee seeking to transfer approximately five years of MBTA retirement contributions into the state system as a service buyback. The bill was described as having been filed in 2017 and reported favorably last session, but it stalled in Senate Ways and Means. Finally, Howard Levine testified remotely in support of a correctional officer disability pension bill, describing severe injuries from a 1990 inmate assault, multiple surgeries, early retirement, and a request to increase his pension to reflect a current lieutenant’s salary. No votes were taken during the hearing, and the meeting adjourned after testimony concluded.
MA

Massachusetts 2025-2026 Regular Session

Joint Committee on Financial Services Jun 21st, 2026 at 10:30 am

Joint Committee on Financial Services

Transcript Highlights:
  • I work with companies and nonprofits around the state, helping to set up employee benefit plans.
  • This bill has been put into law in 14 states.
  • How could the state of Massachusetts just decide not to let a private company pay for my co-pay?
  • It's been adopted in some states.
  • It's been affected in some states.
Keywords: 995, all
Summary: The Joint Committee on Financial Services held a hearing with Chair Jamie Murphy and Senate co-chair Senator Feeney presiding. Members asked witnesses to keep testimony to three minutes and noted that written testimony could still be submitted. The committee heard testimony on several health insurance and pharmacy-related bills, including a proposal to allow controlled prescriptions to be transferred between pharmacies within the same chain, legislation affecting health savings account (HSA)-compatible plans and future insurance mandates, a bill on small business health insurance incentives, and H. 1212 on emergency insulin access. Several parents and patients testified in support of emergency insulin access, describing severe diabetes emergencies, diabetic ketoacidosis, prescription delays, and the need for pharmacists to dispense insulin in urgent situations when doctors or insurers are unavailable. A parent also described the burden of repeatedly obtaining new prescriptions for ADHD medication when pharmacies are out of stock. Witnesses supporting the HSA bill argued that state coverage mandates can unintentionally disqualify HSA-qualified plans and that the bill would preserve tax advantages for enrollees while avoiding repeated legislative fixes. A representative of the Retailers Association supported the small business health insurance incentives bill, saying it could help retain small employers in the merged market by allowing carriers to offer financial incentives tied to cooperative purchasing and utilization efforts. One witness, Kathleen Demarest, testified against a co-pay assistance restriction, saying a state rule had unexpectedly cut off her drug assistance before a generic was actually available, leaving her with very high out-of-pocket costs. Committee members asked a few clarifying questions about HSAs, insulin dispensing, and school support for diabetes care. After all scheduled witnesses had testified and no additional testimony was offered, the committee voted to close the hearing.
NM

New Mexico 2026 Regular Session

House - Commerce and Economic Development Feb 2nd, 2026 at 01:54 pm

House Commerce & Economic Development Committee

Transcript Highlights:
  • By building more starter, homes and helping buyers across the state buy homes.
  • And for all the reasons already stated, we stand in strong support.
  • I think there's a lot of interest across the whole state.
  • I mean, this is not going to be a widespread fix for home building in The state of New Mexico.
  • I'm a state and local tax consultant for CLA, an Albuquerque CPA firm in New Mexico.
Keywords: 996, all
ND

North Dakota 2025-2026 Regular Session

Senate Appropriations Apr 16th, 2025 at 08:00 am

Appropriations

Transcript Highlights:
  • But what has happened is the federal government has canceled three major projects in the state that were
  • And also the other issue with that one is they qualify for State Water Commission cost share at 60% of
  • But anyway, does this then set a precedent that we start replacing federal funds with state funds, you
  • Chairman, just so I understand or clear, it's clarified that this is only state money if the federal
  • If it's ever reinstated, we don't use the state money.
Bills: SB2225, HB1619
Summary: The Appropriations Committee met to clear several remaining bills and discussed scheduling around upcoming conference committees. The chair noted that full committee meetings would likely be held after floor session, while Thursday and Friday mornings were being reserved for conference committees. Members also discussed how conference committees would be scheduled and where they would appear on their dashboards. The committee first took up House Bill 1577, relating to wastewater facility grants. Amendments were adopted to create a loan/line-of-credit mechanism through the Bank of North Dakota and the Department of Environmental Quality to keep two canceled federal BRIC-funded projects moving: a lagoon project in Fezenden and a wastewater treatment project in Lincoln. Members emphasized the language was intended to apply only to those projects and to preserve the possibility of federal reimbursement later. The amendment passed 16-0, and the bill as amended received a 15-1 do pass recommendation. The committee then reconsidered House Bill 1009 and adopted an additional amendment transferring the remaining balance in the bioscience innovation grant fund to the general fund, rather than issuing another round of grants. That amendment passed 16-0, and the bill as amended also received a 16-0 do pass recommendation. Finally, the committee considered House Bill 1619, creating a long-term care facility loan fund and adjusting an existing medical facility loan program. After discussion, members amended the bill to reduce the long-term care fund cap to $10 million per project, set the interest rate at 2%, extend repayment to 30 years, and align the medical facility loan program to 2% with a 30-year term. The amendment passed 14-2, and the bill as amended received a 16-0 do pass recommendation.
MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

February State Budget and Economic Forecast - 03/06/25

Minnesota Senate Floor Meeting

Transcript Highlights:
  • Becker, and State Budget Director Anna Mingi.
  • <00:13:54.639> costs by increasing Banks borrowing costs by increasing Banks borrowing costs
  • rates all other areas of the state rates all other areas of the state budget<00:25:52.279> are
  • <00:42:05.240> spent the aisle about how the state spent the aisle about how the state spent
  • And bloggers chin has a state... he has 22 years of state time that he will do... we have set in the
Keywords: 1187, senate, all
MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

Committee on Finance - 04/21/26

Finance Committee

Transcript Highlights:
  • and the State Auditor's Office. and the State Auditor's Office.
  • ,<01:13:08.280> and<01:13:08.360> State General, Secretary of State, and State General
  • , Secretary of State, and State Auditor<01:13:09.360> State<01:13:09.640> Auditor<01:13
  • by the State Patrol.
  • the state of Minnesota. the state of Minnesota.
Keywords: 918, senate, all
Summary: The Senate Finance Committee took up Senate File 203, a broad housing bill authored by Senator Port. Port described the measure as a package including $50 million in housing infrastructure bonds, MHFA administrative and investment reforms, expanded Greater Minnesota infrastructure grants for workforce housing, manufactured housing bill of rights provisions, and a private equity restriction on large investors buying certain single-family homes starting in 2026. Fiscal analyst Eric Olafson walked through the spreadsheet and said the $50 million bond authorization would add debt service costs over time, with the total estimated debt service for that authorization at about $75.8 million. Senator Draheim raised concern about the growing cost of bonding and said the state should rely more on cash than debt. The committee then adopted two technical amendments. The A21 amendment, described by Port as correcting manufactured housing bill of rights language, aligning MHFA board meeting language, conforming a lived-experience exemption to federal law, and fixing a capacity-building grants reference, was approved without objection. The A20 amendment, offered by Draheim, was also adopted and would give the legislature more control and visibility over MHFA funding and how quickly program dollars are reinvested after agency operations. Members then debated Draheim’s A22 amendment, which would delete the manufactured home park provisions from the bill. Draheim and several Republicans argued the section could function like rent control, could burden good park owners, and might have unintended consequences for park operations and purchases. Port, Senator Boldon’s allies, and other supporters said the provisions were needed to protect residents from rent spikes and private equity abuses in manufactured home communities, where residents own their homes but not the land. The transcript ends during that debate, before any final disposition on A22 or the bill itself is shown.