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MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

House Commerce Finance and Policy Committee 2/18/26

Commerce Finance and Policy

Transcript Highlights:
  • , the AARP fraud watch network, and also through policy changes at every level of government.
  • These are the traditional fraud cases that Thomas was talking about.
  • These are<01:28:08.960> the<01:28:09.120> traditional<01:28:09.520> fraud<01:28:
  • <01:31:24.000> We<01:31:24.159> do owed in a certain type of fraud.
  • We do owed in a certain type of fraud.
Keywords: 1183, house
FL

Florida 2026 Regular Session

Fiscal Policy Mar 6th, 2025

Fiscal Policy

Transcript Highlights:
  • And secondly, the early detection of this illness is really, really critical so that these kids can get
Summary: The Committee on Fiscal Policy met to consider CS for SB 1121, a bill on children with developmental disabilities, especially autism. Senator Harrell said the bill would expand early screening and referrals, extend Early Steps services, designate the University of Florida Center for Autism and Neurodevelopment as a statewide hub, create grants for autism-focused charter schools and summer programs, and establish an autism microcredential for instructional personnel. Supporters, including Florida Goodwill Association, Florida DD Council, Florida for Florida’s Future, and Autism Speaks, said the measure would improve workforce training, early intervention, and educational outcomes for children with autism. The committee adopted two amendments. One expanded the Early Steps extended option so services continue until a child enters school, rather than ending at age four. The second addressed fiscal impacts, with discussion indicating no immediate cost this year but projected impacts of about $8.5 million in 2026-27 and about $15 million in 2027-28 as the program fully ramps up. Members also asked about Medicaid coverage, provider shortages, training, and whether private schools could receive charter-school grants; Senator Harrell said Medicaid-covered children would remain covered, the microcredential would be online and free, no provider reimbursement increases were built into the bill, and private schools would not be eligible for the charter-school grants. After debate, including supportive remarks from President Passidomo emphasizing early detection and research into autism causes, the committee voted to report CS for SB 1121 favorably. The motion passed by roll call, and the meeting adjourned.
MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

Personal care assistance and community first services and supports 3/10/26

Minnesota House Floor Meeting

Transcript Highlights:
  • So, is there any additional safeguards or compliance operation to prevent fraud?
  • So, is there any additional safeguards or compliance operation to prevent fraud? Okay.
  • expand the usage of to prevent fraud expand the usage of to prevent fraud across<00:17:42.080>
  • That's exactly why we have fraud in Medicaid services because most of these providers do not take any
  • But if you're saying that the majority of our fraud is coming from these providers that get strictly
Keywords: 1183, house
CA

California 2025-2026 Regular Session

Assembly Elections Committee Apr 9th, 2025

Transcript Highlights:
  • because it will hunt down people deemed not qualified to vote, and it sort of harkens to the bogus fraud
  • The idea that voter fraud is a widespread problem has been debunked time and again by courts, by studies
  • Voter ID laws perpetuate the myth of voter fraud and do nothing to improve election integrity.
  • build confidence in elections is to stop lying to the public to make them think that voter...” “...fraud
  • David Bolog said: “If passed into law, AB 1116 will allow another avenue of voter registration fraud.
Summary: The committee heard a long agenda of elections-related bills. It first approved three consent items: AB 808, AB 1029, and AB 1072. The committee then took up AB 1249, which would require non-Voter’s Choice Act counties to offer at least one Saturday early-voting location before statewide elections and allow in-person return of vote-by-mail ballots at designated county offices or satellite locations. Supporters said it would expand access for working voters and those with transportation barriers; some members raised concerns about ballot verification and added workload for rural counties. The bill passed the committee on a divided vote and was placed on call for absent members. The committee next considered AB 25, a voter ID and election integrity measure that would require citizenship verification, government ID for voting, tighter voter-roll audits, and a 72-hour ballot-counting deadline. The author and supporters argued it would restore public trust and improve election integrity, while opponents from the League of Women Voters, ACLU California Action, labor groups, disability advocates, and others said it would restrict access, burden vulnerable voters, and amount to voter suppression. After extensive debate, the committee voted the bill out on a narrow split and kept it on call. Members also approved AB 1164, which clarifies when voters are entitled to a replacement ballot and updates the Voter Bill of Rights language; AB 1441, which would create an independent citizens redistricting commission in Merced County despite opposition from the county board over cost and local control; and AB 16, which would clarify county election officials’ authority to begin processing vote-by-mail ballots earlier and clean up outdated code. The committee also heard AB 1411, which would require non-VCA counties to prepare voter education and outreach plans and use a Secretary of State template, with the sponsor saying it would improve voter information statewide.
MN

Minnesota 2025 1st Special Session

House Floor debate of HF24 3/13/25

Minnesota House Floor Meeting

Transcript Highlights:
  • this law really realize what a fraud this law really is<00:04:07.319> this<00:04:07.519> law
  • Heard words that said, what a fraud.
  • Heard words that said, what a fraud.
  • says heard words that said what a fraud says heard words that said what a fraud this<00:25:22.559
  • This idea that infants are being left somewhere is a fraud. That is not happening.
Keywords: 1183, house
AL

Alabama 2025 Regular Session

Alabama House Boards, Agencies and Commissions Committee Feb 12th, 2025 at 10:30 am

Boards, Agencies and Commissions

Transcript Highlights:
  • I can't begin to tell you the level of fraud that exists in pharmacy in the United States.
  • The number one source of fraud in the US is healthcare, and specifically, the number one source of fraud
  • The number one source of fraud is pharmacy. Your time is up. Ma'am, thank you very much.
DE
Transcript Highlights:
  • selling firearms must pass background checks and receive training on identifying straw purchases, detecting
  • and international students in Delaware, convening stakeholders to address immigrant exploitation and fraud
Summary: The House convened with Girl State participants presiding for part of the session, including introductions of the student leadership and a unanimous voice vote passing House Concurrent Resolution 152 honoring the young women participating in Delaware Girl State. The chamber also welcomed congressional interns and other guests, accepted the prior day’s minutes, and observed a moment of silence for Nathan Cynix and Kara Feeley before prayer and the Pledge of Allegiance. A major portion of the meeting was devoted to tributes for Representative Ron Gray, who was recognized for his 14 years of service and his work on issues such as bond bills, dredging, bike paths, small business, constituent service, and agriculture-related funding. Multiple members from both parties praised his humor, honesty, mentorship, and dedication to the House and his district. Gray responded with extended remarks reflecting on his family legacy, legislative service, and appreciation for colleagues and staff, and the chamber later sang “Take Me Out to the Ball Game” at his request. The House then received communications, including Senate messages returning several bills and informing the chamber of Senate passage of additional measures. Members were also told that the FY27 bond bill, House Bill 500, had been placed on desks as a gift for review. The House read in Consent Agenda S, which included House Bill 476, House Joint Resolution 13, Senate Substitute 1 for Senate Bill 168, Senate Bill 297, Senate Substitute 1 for Senate Bill 319, and Senate Joint Resolution 21, and began a roll call vote on the consent agenda.
MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

House Public Safety Finance and Policy Committee 1/22/25

Public Safety Finance and Policy

Transcript Highlights:
  • Peace Officer Standards and Training, or the POST Board, Sentencing Guidelines Commission, Private Detective
  • Next we have the Private Detectives and Protective Agents Board.
  • They approve applications for private detective and protective agent licenses, suspend or revoke licenses
  • Next we have the Private Detectives and Protective Agents Board.
  • They approve applications for private detective and protective agent licenses, suspend or revoke licenses
Keywords: 1183, house
Summary: The committee met with a quorum present, approved the January 21, 2025 minutes by voice vote, and then took up House File 7, which was recommended to pass and be re-referred to the Ways and Means Committee. The chair also reminded attendees about decorum rules in the committee room. House File 7 was described by the author as a public safety package combining 12 provisions from prior Republican-authored bills, aimed at supporting law enforcement, reducing violent crime, and increasing accountability in the criminal justice system. The bill’s main provisions discussed included tougher penalties for aggravated fleeing, making it a crime to be in a stolen vehicle, allowing tracking devices on stolen vehicles even when occupied, increasing penalties for blocking highways and critical infrastructure, and increasing penalties for assaulting peace officers. The author also highlighted provisions on sex trafficking, predatory offender registration, and greater public disclosure of bail payments, case dismissals, sentencing reductions, and sentencing guideline changes. Testifying in support were Ramsey County Sheriff Bob Fletcher, MPPOA President Shane Mey, and Minnesota Chiefs of Police Association Executive Director Jeff Potts, all of whom argued the bill would help officers address auto theft, fleeing suspects, and assaults on law enforcement. They cited increases in assaults on officers and high numbers of stolen vehicles and fleeing cases, and said the bill would improve safety and transparency. Witnesses generally supported the bill’s approach but suggested some refinements, including adding language for additional aggravating factors in officer assault cases and considering similar treatment for corrections officers. Sheriff Fletcher also urged reconsideration of the recently enacted raise-the-age changes, arguing they could limit law enforcement’s ability to respond to younger offenders involved in stolen vehicles. No opposition testimony or final vote on House File 7 was recorded in the excerpt beyond the motion to pass and re-refer it.
MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

House Floor Session - part 2 Apr 25th, 2025

Minnesota House Floor Meeting

Transcript Highlights:
  • Article 6 has to do with the Crime Fraud Prevention Bureau that was housed in the Minnesota Department
  • As a part of that regulatory authority, they go after the bad people who commit insurance fraud.
  • The purpose of the Fraud Bureau, funded by the insurance companies here in the state of Minnesota, is
  • help you, to help me, to help everybody in the state of Minnesota who has insurance and insurance fraud
  • We spent almost one full day on a bill that required the Commerce Fraud Bureau to be in the Department
CA

California 2025-2026 Regular Session

Assembly Education Committee Apr 30th, 2025

Transcript Highlights:
  • which is a bill that seeks to strengthen accountability and oversight to crack down on documented fraud
  • This type of fraud goes far beyond just the A3 Charter case.
  • This bill is proposing the solution for this documented fraud.
  • We want to make sure that we root out fraud and abuse of taxpayer dollars... ...that we root out fraud
  • That's actually what happened with A3; the big element of the fraud was district complicity in the fraud
Summary: The Assembly Education Committee heard AB 84, a charter school accountability measure focused on non-classroom-based charter schools and fraud prevention. The author and supporters said the bill was intended to respond to the A3 charter fraud case and related scandals by strengthening audits, transparency, authorizer oversight, and funding determination rules, while ensuring public education dollars are used for public education. Supporters included FCMAT, CSEA, CTA, and CSBA, who argued the bill would improve oversight and protect taxpayers. Opponents, including the California Charter Schools Association, Green Dot, many charter parents, educators, and charter operators, said the bill was too broad, would impose major new costs and bureaucracy on all charter schools, and could reduce options for families, especially those using flexible, homeschool, or special-needs charter programs. After extensive testimony and committee discussion, the bill passed on a 5-1 vote and was sent to Appropriations, with the item left open for additional votes. The committee then approved a consent calendar of 11 education bills, including AB 542, AB 563, AB 731, AB 753, AB 784, AB 964, AB 988, AB 1034, AB 1233, AB 1255, and AB 1381, all moving to Appropriations. The consent calendar passed unanimously. Later, the committee heard AB 1454, a literacy and reading instruction bill authored by Assembly Members Rubio and Revis. The bill would require the state to create professional development resources for evidence-based literacy instruction, update English language arts and English language development instructional materials, and revise administrator preparation standards to include literacy training. The authors and a broad coalition of supporters, including CTA, EdVoice, Families in Schools, Decoding Dyslexia, school administrators, and parent advocates, described the measure as a compromise aimed at improving reading outcomes and addressing California’s literacy crisis. There was no opposition testimony at the hearing, and members voiced strong support for the bill and its collaborative approach.
HI
Transcript Highlights:
  • If an employee embezzles funds and the fraud is uncovered later, the consequences still apply and the
  • If an employee embezzles funds and the fraud is uncovered later, the consequences still apply and the
  • , that false accusations of ballot fraud, that false accusations of ballot fraud, harassment,<00:
  • mind that the incidents of voter fraud mind that the incidents of voter fraud in<00:53:53.280>
  • <00:54:05.920> in there are five cases of voter fraud in there are five cases of voter fraud
Keywords: 912, senate, all
Summary: The Judiciary Committee heard testimony on Senate Bill 2246, which would expand public financial disclosure requirements. The State Ethics Commission strongly supported the bill, saying broader disclosure could help restore public trust and potentially deter corruption, and it offered a clarifying amendment to make clear the requirement applies to board and commission members rather than all employees of listed agencies. Several organizations and individuals also testified in support. A committee member asked about the amendment, and the commission explained it was intended as a clarification rather than a substantive change. The committee then took up Senate Bill 2250, which would add homeless facilities to the locations covered by the drug-free-zone offense for promoting controlled substances. The Public Defender opposed the measure, arguing that many homeless facilities are unmarked and not easily identifiable, creating notice, fairness, and due process concerns and risking arbitrary enforcement. The Honolulu Prosecutor’s Office and Honolulu Police Department supported the bill, saying it targets distributors rather than users, that notice can be proven through evidence, and that the law is aimed at protecting vulnerable people in shelters and similar facilities. In questioning, senators asked how homeless facilities would be identified and whether the bill would cover all shelter models; the prosecutor said the definition is cross-referenced in statute and must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. The Drug Policy Forum of Hawaii and other groups testified in opposition, while several service and advocacy groups testified in support. Finally, the committee heard Senate Bill 2325, which would allow courts to review and potentially reduce sentences for certain juvenile offenders after 15 years if the person is not a danger to the community. Judiciary staff said the court supports the bill’s intent but noted Hawaii’s indeterminate sentencing structure leaves no alternative sentence for a court to reduce to, suggesting the measure may need structural sentencing changes or could instead be directed to the Hawaii Paroling Authority. Public defender representatives and youth-justice advocates supported the bill, emphasizing rehabilitation, adolescent brain development, trauma, and the need for a meaningful opportunity for release. No votes or final committee actions were taken during the portion of the hearing provided.
CA

California 2025-2026 Regular Session

Assembly Public Safety Committee Apr 21st, 2026

Public Safety

Transcript Highlights:
  • However, we do want to expose criminal activity, fraud, and other things.
  • Real estate fraud is not a victimless crime.
  • Cases involving deed fraud, mortgage fraud, and foreclosure scams often result in devastating financial
  • From a policy perspective, the question is not whether fraud should be addressed.
  • Mortgage fraud was one of my specialties.
Keywords: 988, house, all
FL

Florida 2026 Regular Session

FL House Floor Session - 2026-03-11 (10:00AM Session)

Florida House Floor Meeting

Transcript Highlights:
  • As a matter of fact, none of them have even been identified as committing fraud.
  • And again, show me the fraud. It doesn't exist.
  • And again, show me the fraud. It doesn't exist.
  • We've been hearing a lot about fraud and non-citizens voting.
  • Was actual fraud found? Senator Burrell. Thank you, Mr. President.
Summary: The Florida Senate convened with a quorum, opened with a prayer and Pledge of Allegiance, and heard several member introductions recognizing guests, interns, public servants, and a resolution honoring Indiana University quarterback Fernando Mendoza for winning the Heisman Trophy. The chamber then moved to the special order calendar and took up a series of bills, with some measures temporarily postponed and others advanced after brief debate and, in several cases, substitution of House companions for Senate bills. The first major bill passed was CS/CS/HB 355 on health care patient protection, which requires hospitals with emergency departments to have pediatric emergency care policies, training, equipment, and a designated pediatric coordinator; it passed 36-0. The Senate also passed CS/HB 1113 on public records, expanding confidentiality protections for victims and temporarily protecting the name of a law enforcement officer who becomes a victim in the line of duty; it passed 33-4. CS/CS/HB 1085 on local government cybersecurity was amended to place the program under the Florida Digital Service and to adjust grant timing, then passed 37-0. CS/CS/HB 925 on clerks of court passed 38-0 after amendments affecting revenue retention, legal notices, traffic citation distributions, and municipal fee sharing. CS/CS/HB 679 on trademark registration modernization and CS/CS/HB 589 on septic permit timing also passed unanimously. The most extensive debate centered on CS/CS/HB 991 / SB 1334, an elections bill that would use Real ID data to verify citizenship, change voter ID rules, alter candidate qualifying requirements, and revise election administration procedures. Senators offered and debated numerous amendments on documentation fees, senior exemptions, human review versus automated systems, student and retirement-center IDs, and effective dates; most were defeated, though one amendment adding stock-trading disclosure language for candidates was adopted. The bill’s sponsor cited election-crimes reports and specific prosecutions involving non-citizens as justification for the measure, while opponents argued it could disenfranchise eligible voters, especially students and seniors. The transcript ends during continued questioning and debate on that elections bill, before final disposition is shown.
KY

Kentucky 2026 Regular Session

Senate Legislative Session Day 39 (3-4-26)

Kentucky Senate Floor Meeting

Transcript Highlights:
  • to probate or to be appointed as a personal representative while also protecting safeguards against fraud
  • > against while also protecting safeguards against while also protecting safeguards against fraud
  • This bill protects privacy of the fraud.
  • <00:19:26.720> or<00:19:27.039> there<00:19:27.360> is trying to perpetuate a fraud
  • or there is trying to perpetuate a fraud or there is a<00:19:27.840> creditor's<00:19:28.480>
Keywords: 958, all
Summary: The Senate convened with an invocation and pledge, established a quorum, excused absent senators, and approved the journal. The clerk reported House-passed bills and Senate bills received from the House, and several Senate bills were read a second time and sent to the Rules Committee. Committee reports recommended passage of multiple measures, including bills from Appropriations and Revenue, Health Services, Natural Resources and Energy, State and Local Government, and Transportation. The chamber then moved to orders of the day and took up Senate Bill 50 and Senate Bill 191, while Senate Bill 137 and Senate Joint Resolution 54 were passed over and retained in the orders of the day. Senate Bill 50, relating to the disposition of property, was explained as a broad update to trust, probate, and intestacy law. Supporters said it would streamline probate when there are no disputes, add privacy protections for decedents’ estate information, give courts more flexibility, set retention and filing-fee rules for wills, recognize electronic wills and other uniform-law concepts, and allow transfer-on-death designation for motor vehicles. A floor amendment removed inheritance-tax provisions and corrected technical issues; it was adopted, and the bill passed 35-1 after debate in favor from several senators and no substantive opposition. Senate Bill 191, creating the Kentucky Kindergarten Readiness Performance-based Child Care Incentive Pilot Program, was also amended and passed. The bill would establish a three-year pilot administered by the University of Kentucky College of Education, providing a one-time $2,000 per child incentive payment or refundable tax credit to child care providers and low-income families when children are assessed as kindergarten ready. A floor amendment clarified that the study and recommendations must comply with federal child care regulations; it was adopted, and the bill passed 35-1 after a senator changed a vote from no to yes. The Senate then recessed for Rules and Committee on Committees meetings, after which the rules committee posted additional bills to future orders and the committee on committees referred several bills and resolutions to standing committees. Several members also made announcements about upcoming committee meetings, a legislative breakfast, a fish fry, and condolences for a community member.
TX

Texas 89th 2nd C.S.

Elections Mar 13th, 2025

Elections

Transcript Highlights:
  • With fraudulent use of absentee ballots, it's the number one source of fraud in elections.
  • were debating the whole thing about voter ID, it was Rafael and Chiia that said the type of voter fraud
  • Look, this is to stop bipartisan voter fraud. How's that? Is that a good way of saying it?
  • Because we've seen bipartisan voter fraud down in the valley. We've seen it by Republicans.
  • The ballot option to abstain is intended to make the most significant difference in stopping fraud when
FL

Florida 2025 Regular Session

February 5, 2025 - 09:00 AM

Transcript Highlights:
  • But I guess I would just also say, you know, fraud is a big problem for potentially for this program,
  • So I think it's important just to mitigate the fraud.
  • And it sounded like you were, you know, fraud was a big issue for you.
  • So I think it's important just to mitigate the fraud.
  • And it sounded like you were, you know, fraud was a big issue for you. So.
Summary: The subcommittee heard updates on several major technology modernization efforts, beginning with the Department of Financial Services’ Florida PALM project, which is replacing the state’s decades-old FLAIR accounting system. DFS described PALM as a statewide effort affecting all three branches of government, with cash management already live and the remaining financial management, payroll, and data warehouse components still in development. Officials said the project began in 2014, was restructured after a 2022 legislative pause, and is now being recommended for a go-live delay from January 2026 to July 2026. Members asked about governance, staffing, contract structure, cost growth, and maintenance costs; DFS said the contract is deliverable-based, the current amendment would add a net $2.2 million, and post-go-live maintenance is expected to be about $13 million annually under the current contract through July 2027. The Agency for Health Care Administration then updated the committee on the FX Medicaid enterprise modernization program. AHCA explained that federal CMS directed states to move from monolithic Medicaid systems to a modular approach, leading Florida to procure separate vendors for integration services, data warehouse, unified operations, provider services, and claims processing, with pharmacy benefits still to be procured. Officials said the project has spent about $334 million to date, with most costs federally matched, and requested $189.95 million for the upcoming year. They also highlighted a 2024 special assessment that produced 81 recommendations, most tied to staffing shortages, and said the Legislature added 47 FTEs, with 17 currently filled or being filled. Members asked about governance changes, production status, data access, and future technology maintenance; AHCA said some components are operational, the data warehouse is nearing certification, and the agency is working to keep the system adaptable and nonproprietary. The Department of Children and Families presented its Access modernization project, which is replacing a mainframe-based eligibility system used for SNAP, TANF, Medicaid assistance, and related programs. DCF said the six-year, $205 million project is in its third year and has already delivered a new customer portal with mobile access, multi-factor authentication, and fraud protections, while also building a worker portal, document management, community partner tools, and workload management functions. The agency said it is requesting $36.625 million for the next fiscal year, the same as last year, and emphasized that the project has remained on schedule and on budget by breaking work into smaller modules and using strong vendor and staff support. Members praised the project’s progress and asked about cybersecurity testing and the long delay before modernization began; DCF said security requirements were built in from the outset and that the remaining work will focus on moving staff off the legacy mainframe and modernizing notices and back-end processes.
AZ

Arizona 2026 Regular Session

02/05/2026 - House Floor Session

Arizona House Floor Meeting

Transcript Highlights:
  • Attorney General Mays also saved Arizona's money after she went after the waste, fraud, and abuse in
  • been around for a long time and I've been in the business of helping people with predatory lending, fraud
  • And I've been in the business of helping people with predatory lending, fraud, rental landlord-tenant
  • they are being, that she is the voice for them when they are being violated with unsound consumer fraud
  • and her team won a $375,000 judgment against two Tucson real estate companies for mortgage financing fraud
Keywords: 1182, all
MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

Gov. Tim Walz's State of the State address (speech only) 4/23/25

Minnesota House Floor Meeting

Transcript Highlights:
  • Another way we're protecting investments is by doing more to prevent, investigate, and punish fraud in
  • more to prevent, investigate,<00:17:15.120> and<00:17:15.360> punish<00:17:15.919> fraud
  • <00:17:16.400> in investigate, and punish fraud in investigate, and punish fraud in government
  • And earlier this year, I issued an executive order to strengthen our state's capacity to investigate fraud
  • by establishing a centralized fraud and financial crimes unit at the Bureau of Criminal Apprehension
Keywords: 1183, house
MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

Agencies acting on OLA recommendations 3/10/26

Minnesota House Floor Meeting

Transcript Highlights:
  • The differences are important, I think, and a lot of the focus, particularly with the fraud issues, are
  • particularly um and a lot of the focus, particularly with<00:07:04.680> the<00:07:04.800> fraud
  • > um<00:07:06.840> are<00:07:07.040> on<00:07:07.200> another with the fraud
  • issues, um are on another with the fraud issues, um are on another type<00:07:08.080> of<00:07
Keywords: 1183, house
Summary: The committee heard House File 3672, authored by Representative Quam, and the bill was laid over. Quam said the measure is based on findings from past Legislative Audit Commission audits and is intended to clarify state requirements, strengthen agency compliance, and address gaps such as conflicts of interest in grant administration. He said he wants the auditor to work directly with the revisor and agencies so the rules are clearer and less likely to be misunderstood. Betsy Hayes, Assistant Commissioner with the Department of Administration, testified that sections 5 through 11 of the bill would strengthen grants management authorities, reporting, monitoring, training, and conflict-of-interest limits, and said those changes are generally supported and in some cases already reflected in policy. She raised concern about section 3, saying it could sweep too broadly by applying chapter 16B grants-management requirements to all state payments to non-state entities, including procurement payments, which could create fiscal impact and regulatory overlap. She said the department is working with the author, the Office of the Legislative Auditor, and Auditor Randall to refine the language. Chair Clayburn asked for clarification on the difference between grants and procurement contracts and on the relationship between chapters 16B and 16C. Hayes explained that grants are typically reimbursement-based payments to third parties under chapter 16B, while procurement contracts are inward-facing state purchases under chapter 16C. She said section 3 could unintentionally capture procurement and apply grants rules to it. Clayburn said the bill’s intent is good and welcomed continued work on the language before the bill moves forward.