Video & Transcript Research : 'Governor involvement'

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HI

Hawaii 2025 Regular Session

CPC Public Hearing - Wed Jan 29, 2025 @ 2:00 PM HST

Consumer Protection & Commerce

Transcript Highlights:
  • Even one year, having Governor Ige have to veto that got through.
  • Even one year, having Governor Ige have to veto that got through.
  • Even one year, having Governor Ige have to veto that got through.
  • Even one year, having Governor Ige have to veto that got through.
  • Even one year, having Governor Ige have to veto that got through.
Keywords: 910, house, all
Summary: The Committee on Consumer Protection and Commerce met on January 29, 2025, and heard testimony on HB 108, which concerns intoxicating liquor and would expand direct-to-consumer shipping for beer and spirits. Supporters included representatives of Koloa Rum Company, Maui Brewing Company, and Ola Brew, who argued the bill would modernize alcohol laws, help small local producers compete, support jobs and local agriculture, and give consumers more access to Hawaii-made products. They also said Hawaii already has experience regulating direct wine shipments, with age verification and carrier-based delivery systems in place, and that direct shipping could help businesses reach visitors after they return home and diversify beyond tourism. Opposition came from the Hawaii Public Health Institute, whose representative said the bill could increase access for underage drinking, especially because liquor commissions do not currently conduct compliance checks on alcohol shipments and may lack capacity to do so. The group also raised tax-enforcement concerns, saying the existing three-tier system makes excise and sales tax collection easier, while direct shipping would require additional auditing. They urged the committee to oppose the bill or defer it until more research is done, and suggested a common carrier reporting requirement to help reconcile shipments. Committee members questioned both sides about whether current law already allows some alcohol shipments, whether a Kentucky distiller could ship directly to Hawaii, and how reciprocity with other states would work. Supporters said the bill is modeled on wine-shipping language and could be amended to clarify reciprocity, while opponents said the bill lacks a common carrier reporting requirement and would place a burden on county liquor commissions. No vote or final action on HB 108 was taken during the portion of the meeting provided.
MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

Elect Committee Meeting - 2025-04-02

Elections Finance and Government Operations

Transcript Highlights:
  • On May 5th, 2023, Governor Walz signed House File III into law.
  • when this bill was before us to try to fix the tailoring issue, to fix some of the issues that were involved
  • I've been involved in the development of that bill and that section, as I said to you last week when
  • That happened here in Minnesota, where the governor, the Senate, and the House all went to the Democrats
  • So I think there's probably a few that get involved. Representative Roach. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
TX

Texas 89th 2nd C.S.

Energy Resources Mar 31st, 2025

Energy Resources

Transcript Highlights:
  • Uh, it typically involves some sort of life cycle analysis.
  • Well, you're right, this bill author has been, um, very, very involved in this issue.
  • DOD is very, they're very involved, and they're they're basically going out.
  • Canada also has some startups involved, but most of the startups, the plurality of the startups that
  • must provide written notice of the state's intent to withdraw to the governors of all other IMCC member
MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

Committee on State and Local Government - 04/23/26

State and Local Government

Transcript Highlights:
  • Oh, and then the appropriations section is also involved because of appropriations to MMB.
  • And this report is um going to involve And this report is um going to involve the<00:18:22.720><
  • is also involved because of appropriations<00:21:37.760> to appropriations to appropriations
  • <00:25:57.920> appointing<00:25:58.320> all why you have the governor appointing all
  • why you have the governor appointing all 14<00:25:58.920> members<00:25:59.240> of<00:
Keywords: 1187, senate, all
FL

Florida 2026 Regular Session

Senate in Session Mar 13th, 2026

Florida Senate Floor Meeting

Transcript Highlights:
  • Are there messages from the governor or other executive communications? None on the desk, Mr.
  • This, to me, says we must be very involved with our local communities.
  • But remembering, we must be very involved at the local level.
  • We'll go for it, but remembering we must be very involved at the local level. Senator Davis.
  • But I know that Senator Smith was really involved with that story.
Summary: The Senate opened with prayer, the Pledge of Allegiance, and several guest and staff introductions. The chamber then took up returning messages from the House and acted on multiple bills, with votes recorded on each. Senate Bill 628 on transportation facility designations was concurred in as amended and passed 31-4 after discussion about naming roads for deceased individuals and an exception for President Trump. The House amendment to the Live Local affordable housing package, CS/CS/HB 1389, was also concurred in and passed 35-0; Senator Claudio explained it as the fourth iteration of the Live Local Act, including new provisions allowing certain affordable housing on qualifying religious property, extending some timelines, and removing accessory dwelling unit language. CS/CS/HB 1451 on utility services was concurred in and passed 30-6 after questions about phasing out surcharges and reporting requirements. The chamber also substituted CS/CS/HB 1279 for SB 7038 and adopted an education amendment package before passing the bill 36-1, while several other measures were temporarily postponed. The Senate then considered CS/CS/SB 484 on data centers and concurred in the House amendment 383-957, passing the bill 31-6. Senator Avila said the amendment strengthened ratepayer protections, required a PSC tariff filing, and directed an OPAGA study on large-scale data centers. Several senators pressed concerns about the removal of the Senate’s nondisclosure agreement prohibition, the possibility of delayed public awareness of data center projects, and whether costs could be shifted to other ratepayers; Avila responded that the amendment preserved local land-use authority and that ratepayer costs could not be borne by the general body of ratepayers. Debate reflected a split between senators who supported the bill as a needed regulatory framework and those who objected to the transparency changes and the loss of the Senate’s original NDA language. Later, the Senate took up land use and development regulations, substituting CS/CS/CS/HB 399 for SB 208. An amendment by Senator Jones to remove language affecting a Fontainebleau Hotel water park project in Miami Beach failed 17-20 after debate over local control and preemption. Senator McLean’s amendments then added a sunset date and other changes, and Senator Claudio’s amendment preserved Miami-Dade’s urban development boundary supermajority protections and related planning provisions. The chamber then began extended debate on Senator Martin’s amendment creating a process for property owners to challenge rural boundary designations and seek compensation or removal from the designation without going to court; supporters framed it as a property-rights and due-process measure, while opponents argued it would undermine local planning, impose costs on taxpayers, and weaken voter-approved rural boundaries in Orange and Seminole counties. The transcript ends amid that debate, with no final vote shown on the rural boundary amendment in the excerpt provided.
KY

Kentucky 2026 Regular Session

Senate Standing Committee on Banking and Insurance. (2-24-26)

Banking & Insurance

Transcript Highlights:
  • , older adults disproportionately report losses. 85% of the victim losses from crypto kiosk scams involve
  • adults over the scams invol in involve adults over the age<00:08:29.199> of<00:08:29.360>
  • So, um, all the stakeholders involved seem to be on board, and I didn't know of any opposition until
  • yet, but it passed by the governor yet, but it passed overwhelmingly. overwhelmingly. overwhelmingly
  • <00:12:43.120> seem So um all the stakeholders involved seem So um all the stakeholders involved
Summary: The committee first took up Senate Bill 157, which would align Kentucky’s mortgage loan fee rules with federal standards by exempting certain first and second mortgages from the state’s total net income cap when they meet federal points-and-fees thresholds. The sponsor and Rocket Mortgage testified that the bill would make it easier for borrowers to buy down mortgage interest rates with discount points, helping affordability without changing borrower costs, while preserving the existing 4% cap for loans outside the federal standard. Members discussed how rate buydowns work in practice, and the bill passed with a favorable expression after a roll call vote. The committee then heard Senate Bill 189, as amended by a committee substitute, which would create a licensing and regulatory framework for virtual currency kiosks, or crypto ATMs, in Kentucky. The sponsor described widespread scam losses tied to these kiosks, especially among older adults, and said the bill would add consumer protections such as licensing, financial safeguards, transaction limits, refund or hold requirements, disclosures, receipts, and enforcement authority for the Department of Financial Institutions. He also said the substitute was based on other states’ models and that further changes might be needed, including possible floor amendments. AARP Kentucky testified in support of regulating crypto kiosks but said the committee substitute weakened consumer protections and urged stronger safeguards, including lower transaction limits, fee caps, identity verification, receipts, and scam warnings. AARP representatives cited data on scam complaints and losses in Kentucky and nationally, and said the point of transfer is the best place to prevent harm. Committee members generally agreed the issue was consumer protection, but one senator cautioned against overregulating personal financial choices and noted that scams exist in many forms. The discussion ended with acknowledgment that the bill would continue to be refined, including in coordination with the House and stakeholder groups.
HI

Hawaii 2026 Regular Session

JHA Public Hearing - Wed Feb 25, 2026 @ 2:00 PM HST

Judiciary & Hawaiian Affairs

Transcript Highlights:
  • activity involving state or county<00:33:51.200> participation<00:33:51.919> or<00:33:
  • immigration involvement in civil immigration enforcement<00:33:59.760> activity<00:34:00.080>
  • In 1995, as a result of overcrowding, Governor Cayetano made the decision.
  • Every single governor since Governor Cayetano has announced publicly that it is their desire to bring
  • pornography, Donald Trump's involved. pornography, Donald Trump's involved.
Keywords: 910, house, all
Summary: The House Committee on Judiciary and Hawaiian Affairs heard testimony on two immigration-enforcement bills: HB 1886 HD1 and HB 2540 HD1. HB 1886 would limit state and federal collaboration in immigration enforcement, require visible identification and restrictions on facial coverings for law enforcement officers, and create offenses for improper masking, lack of identification, and unauthorized civil immigration interrogation, arrest, or detention. HB 2540 would also limit state and federal collaboration, require law enforcement agencies to adopt and publicly post written civil immigration enforcement policies, prohibit stops or arrests based solely on immigration status, and restrict state and county participation in civil immigration enforcement in certain places. Most testimony supported both measures. The Office of Hawaiian Affairs, the Office of the Public Defender, the ACLU of Hawaii, the Hawaii Coalition for Immigrant Rights, the Legal Clinic, and several private individuals said the bills would increase transparency, accountability, and community trust, and would help protect constitutional rights and reduce fear among immigrants and other community members. Several testifiers emphasized Hawaii’s history and the need to keep local law enforcement separate from federal immigration enforcement, while others said the bills would help people feel safer going to court, school, work, or public protests. A retired police officer also supported visible identification and uniform standards for officers, including federal agents operating in Hawaii. A few testifiers opposed the use of masked or unidentified officers and argued that local police should not be diverted from ordinary public safety duties to immigration enforcement. One ACLU witness noted that the federal government has increasingly used local and state agencies to expand immigration enforcement, and said the task-force provisions in the bills are important to prevent blurred lines between agencies. The committee did not take a final vote in the portion of the meeting provided, but it recorded very large numbers of supportive testimonies for both bills, with only a small number in opposition.
AR
Transcript Highlights:
  • I know why you're doing this because we passed laws and the governor issued an executive order, so you
  • Cases involved. So we had 1,788 open cases in the quarter involving 4,500 children.
  • of child maltreatment and 659 differential response, 3,420 foster care cases, 1,788 in-home cases involving
  • The districts adamantly are opposed to being involved in that in any way.
  • And Governor Sanders has helped us with the community assistance grant for this year.
Keywords: 1204, all
CA

California 2025-2026 Regular Session

Assembly Floor Session Apr 30th, 2026

California House Floor Meeting

Transcript Highlights:
  • Messages from the Governor: there are none.
  • Messages from the Governor: there are none. Messages from the Senate: there are none.
  • Linda recruited folks like David Wynn, someone who deeply shaped my involvement.
  • Linda recruited folks like David Wynn, someone who deeply shaped my involvement with criminal justice
  • He became involved with Homeboy Industries and developed into a restorative justice advocate, and has
Keywords: 988, house, all
KY

Kentucky 2026 Regular Session

Senate Legislative Session Day 43 (3-10-26)

Kentucky Senate Floor Meeting

Transcript Highlights:
  • House Bill 314, the veto of the governor House Bill 314, the veto of the governor notwithstanding
  • the veto of the governor the veto of the governor notwithstanding.
  • <00:10:56.240> of and significantly strips the governor of and significantly strips the governor
  • c> by<00:11:09.240> our The governor is charged by our The governor is charged by our Constitution
  • of the governor notwithstanding. of the governor notwithstanding.
Keywords: 958, all
HI

Hawaii 2026 Regular Session

LBT-GVO, LBT, LBT Public Hearings 02-11-2026

Labor and Technology

Transcript Highlights:
  • We've got the rehabilitation of this facility here that's going to involve possibly the Kinhali site
  • We've got the rehabilitation of this facility here that's going to involve possibly the Kinhali site
  • There are elements that we do currently, but obviously we're not involved in it to that level.
  • This requires a governor, lieutenant governor, member of the legislature, department heads and their
  • deputies, and any spouse or dependent child of a governor, lieutenant governor, member of the legislature
Keywords: 912, senate, all
Summary: The committees heard testimony on several personnel and employment bills. SB 2119 would require the state or counties to reimburse public officers and employees for approved work-related travel costs within 30 days; testifiers from the State Procurement Office, UPW, HGA, the University of Hawaii Professional Assembly, and others supported the measure, citing delayed reimbursements. SB 3131 would update state position titles by changing “private secretary” to “executive assistant” and “secretary” to “administrative assistant” where applicable, and it drew support from DEED and comments from the State Librarian. SB 3069 would permanently exempt a limited number of specialized positions in DAGS Public Works and the Comptroller’s office from civil service; DAGS, HCDA, and DEED supported it, while UPW opposed it. Committee members questioned whether the exemption should be narrower and whether the positions should be consultants or actual employees, and DAGS said the roles were narrowly tailored, highly specialized, and intended to help manage complex projects such as Aloha Stadium, the convention center, and other major redevelopment work. The committee then heard SB 3180, which would repeal the limit on temporary employment in a single position for two 89-day terms. Testimony included support from the Procurement Office, DOE, DHRD, the State Librarian in opposition, UPW written comments, HGA, the Grassroots Institute of Hawaii, and others. Discussion focused on whether the bill was needed to address abuse of repeated 89-day hires and whether it would affect recruitment and career pathways. Finally, SB 2137 would allow departments, divisions, and agencies to assume hiring and recruitment functions from DHRD under certain conditions. DHRD opposed the bill, saying existing law already allows delegation and that agency-level recruitment often lacks the expertise and staffing to do the work; UHPA supported it, and UPW submitted written support. In questioning, DHRD said it had reduced backlog and was now current on screening, while also offering programs like Operation Hire Hawaii for faster agency-led recruitment.
FL

Florida 2026 4th Special Session

January 21, 2026 - 04:00 PM

Transcript Highlights:
  • ALL I DO UNDERSTAND THERE WILL BE A POLITICAL PROCESS INVOLVED, THE MAJORITY COUNTIES DO IT AND DO A
  • A GOVERNOR ENDORSED CANDIDATE RAN EXPLICITLY ON A PLATFORM IN BRINGING STATE-LEVEL POLITICAL AGENDAS
  • SO EARLIER LAST YEAR THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD HAD KIND OF A SCUFFLE WITH THE GOVERNOR.
  • I DON'T THINK WE CAN CONCEPTUALIZE HAVING THE LEGISLATURE PICK THE GOVERNOR AND IT'S MUCH THE SAME IN
  • WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INVOLVEMENT.
MN

Minnesota 2025 1st Special Session

House Education Finance Committee 4/3/25

Education Finance

Transcript Highlights:
  • <00:18:37.799> on the legislature and and the governor on the legislature and and the governor
  • uh involvement uh involvement the<00:27:58.799> legislature<00:27:59.399> last<00:
  • with the youth Council you be involved with the youth Council you know<00:29:03.200> we<00:29
  • stakeholder groups that are involved stakeholder groups that are involved with<00:29:33.760>
  • I'm just going to wrap up my remarks, bringing it back to the people involved.
MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

Tribal Flag Plaza Dedication Ceremony Sep 11th, 2025

Minnesota Senate Floor Meeting

Transcript Highlights:
  • Thank you, Lieutenant Governor Flan. Thank you, Lieutenant Governor Flan.
  • The governor, Governor Walz, and Lieutenant Governor Flanagan administration has codified consultation
  • So once again, thank you, Governor Walz, and Lieutenant Governor Flanagan.
  • about Governor Walls. about Governor Walls.
  • Governor Governor and Lieutenant Governor Governor and Lieutenant Governor Padamio.
Keywords: 1187, senate, all
MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

House Taxes Committee 2/27/25

Taxes

Transcript Highlights:
  • So I thought it was a good idea to get Minnesota involved in this.
  • The governor is working, and that's, I point out, two Democratic governors to Republican governors have
  • <00:14:41.800> is energy in all areas the governor is energy in all areas the governor is
  • <00:14:45.759> to govern two Democrat Governors to govern two Democrat Governors to Republican
  • > um Republican Governors have supported um Republican Governors have supported um this<00:14:
Bills: HF1277, HF1006
NH

New Hampshire 2026 Regular Session

Senate Education (02/10/2026)

Education

Transcript Highlights:
  • There's a constitutional issue involved here.
  • Commissioner Edlute requested governor Commissioner Edlute requested governor and<00:33:41.840><
  • by um the executive counsel as Governor by um the executive counsel as Governor Cenounu<01:21:02.640
  • And you know, involved parents ask.
  • >> the more people you involve >> the more people you involve >> but<01:55:37.119
Keywords: 1191, senate, all
MA

Massachusetts 2025-2026 Regular Session

Joint Committee on Veterans and Federal Affairs Jun 21st, 2026 at 01:00 pm

Joint Committee on Veterans and Federal Affairs

Transcript Highlights:
  • And in more recent times, under Governor Mitt Romney, Massachusetts passed a landmark health reform law
  • Let's get everyone involved.
  • Governor Ron DeSantis, just...
  • Governor Ron DeSantis, just 15 years of progressivism.
  • Why would Congress be involved?
Keywords: 995, all
Summary: The hearing of the Joint Committee on Veterans and Federal Affairs was opened by Chair Joe McGonagle and Vice Chair Senator Mike Rush, who noted that Chair John Velis was deployed with the Massachusetts National Guard. The chairs explained the hybrid format, three-minute testimony limit, live streaming, and filing deadlines, and said the committee would hear 11 House bills and eight Senate bills dealing with federal and overseas issues. Much of the hearing centered on competing resolutions about Article 5 constitutional conventions, along with related resolutions on D.C. statehood, child labor, Citizens United, and Cambodia. Supporters of H. 4692 and S. 284, a joint resolution to rescind all prior Massachusetts Article 5 convention applications, argued that old resolutions from the 1930s and 1970s could be used to count Massachusetts toward the 34-state threshold for calling a federal constitutional convention. Testifiers from Common Cause, the League of Women Voters, the ACLU, Reproductive Equity Now, labor groups, and others warned that a convention would have no clear rules, could not be reliably limited to specific topics, and could put civil rights, reproductive rights, labor protections, and other constitutional protections at risk. Several speakers also cited a recent federal lawsuit and said the safest course was to remove outdated applications from the books. A large opposing panel testified in support of H. 3888, a resolution calling for a Convention of States to propose amendments limiting federal power, imposing fiscal restraints, and establishing term limits. Supporters argued that Article 5 provides a lawful way to address federal overreach, debt, and congressional stagnation, and said the process would be limited by state applications and ratification by 38 states. Some committee members and witnesses raised concerns about a runaway convention, broad language in the resolution, and whether Congress could or should set rules for such a convention. Representative Gentile also testified in support of several related resolutions on overturning Citizens United, D.C. statehood, and the child labor amendment, while Representative Howard and Representative Tongue supported a Cambodia resolution condemning political oppression and urging free and fair elections. No votes or final actions were taken during the hearing.
HI

Hawaii 2025 Regular Session

House Chamber - Fri Mar 21, 2025, 12:00PM HST - Day 37

Hawaii House Floor Meeting

Transcript Highlights:
  • Item number three, messages from the governor. Mr. Clerk, are there any messages from the governor?
  • Item number three, messages<00:17:32.720> from<00:17:32.880> the<00:17:33.039> governor
  • <00:17:33.919> Clerk, messages from the governor. Mr. Clerk, messages from the governor.
  • from<00:17:35.200> the are there any messages from the are there any messages from the governor
  • Chow is ambassador for Pledge Our Kei and supports environmental initiatives and has been involved in
Keywords: 910, house, all
Summary: The House convened with 46 members present and five excused, deferred reading of the journal, and noted there were no messages from the governor or Senate communications. Members then offered several introductions recognizing guests in the gallery, including LifeSmarts awardees, DCCA and LifeSmarts program officials, former Representative Pono Chong and his children, an intern from District 39, a landback advocate, and staff from the Education Committee office. The chamber also marked the close of Education Week 2025 with applause and recognition of the visiting students and supporters. The main floor presentation was House Resolution 211, which congratulated the first- and second-place teams at the 2025 Havi LifeSmarts State Competition and the 2025 U.S. Senate Youth Program delegate. Representative Tam presented the resolution, praising the Eolani Raiders for winning first place and wishing them well at the upcoming Chicago competition. Representative Hashimoto recognized Kalanianaole High School’s second-place team, and Representative Woodson honored Wilson Chow of Maui High School for his leadership and service. The resolution was adopted by voice vote, and the House recessed briefly to allow members to congratulate the honorees. After recess, the House took up a large block of standing committee reports, moving reports 1406 through 1504 with a series of member notations including no votes, reservations, and a few brief explanations. Several members raised concerns about specific measures involving emergency readiness centers, immigration-related legal access, blank votes on ballot questions, electricity costs and Hawaiian Electric, and gambling. Some members spoke in support of measures while noting reservations about cost, process, or policy effects. The full package of reports was ultimately adopted by voice vote. During announcements, Representative Garcia read a statement from Representative Jean Ward announcing her resignation effective at the end of the month due to ongoing health issues, including anemia, sciatica, and pneumonia, after nearly 27 years of service. The House then adjourned by voice vote until 12:00 noon on Monday.
VT

Vermont 2025-2026 Regular Session

House Session - 2026-03-24 - 1:12PM

Vermont House Floor Meeting

Transcript Highlights:
  • groups and committee involving groups and committee involving stakeholders<00:58:17.880> and<
  • Again, I've been involved in this for many years.
  • uh and the senior manager governor uh and the senior manager governor government<02:22:39.640>
  • <02:30:25.440> Hochul However, it is clear to Governor Hochul However, it is clear to Governor
  • I now yield to the member from West Rutland. and involves the existing requirement and involves the existing
Keywords: 926, house, all
Summary: The House first suspended the rules briefly to make announcements, including welcoming former representative Doug Gage to the gallery. It then returned to House Bill 211 on data brokers and personal information, where the Appropriations Committee explained a $50,000 appropriation to the Secretary of State for a consultant-led study on an accessible deletion mechanism for consumers to delete personal data held by data brokers, with interim and final reports due in 2027 and 2028. The committee reported a 9-0-2 vote in favor, and the House agreed to the Commerce and Economic Development Committee’s amendment and ordered third reading. Floor debate on H. 211 focused heavily on the bill’s deletion and exemption framework. Supporters argued the bill is needed to give Vermonters meaningful control over their data and to prevent data brokers from commingling information for unrelated uses. Opponents warned the bill could conflict with existing federal frameworks such as the Fair Credit Reporting Act, Gramm-Leach-Bliley, and the Driver’s Privacy Protection Act, and could make credit, banking, insurance, fraud prevention, and identity verification harder. In response, the sponsor said the bill uses use-case-based exemptions rather than broad entity-level exemptions, noted testimony from banks, insurers, a data broker, a former data broker employee, and the Attorney General, and said no constitutional concerns were raised. The House ultimately adopted the amendment and advanced the bill. After H. 211, the House moved to House Bill 577, establishing the Vermont Prescription Drug Discount Card Program. Committee reports from Health Care, Ways and Means, and Appropriations were read into the record, and the Colchester member described the bill as a way to lower prescription drug costs by joining the multi-state Array Rx program. The bill would let any Vermont resident obtain a free discount card for FDA-approved prescription drugs, with claimed savings up to 80% on generics and 20% on brand-name drugs. The House then proceeded to second reading on H. 577.
AZ

Arizona 2026 Regular Session

02/03/2026 - Senate Appropriations, Transportation and Technology

Appropriations, Transportation and Technology

Transcript Highlights:
  • The state highway is a state right-of-way, so that’s not something that the tribe would get involved
  • I'm losing track, but this was line-itemed out of the budget back when Governor Ducey was governor, and
  • then it was considered a non-starter by Governor Hobbs when the budget was being negotiated.
  • Because there are no drugs involved. Because it's finite and long-lasting, successful treatment.
  • So that is the kind of productivity, involvement, engagement that I think we're looking for.