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MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

Committee on State and Local Government - 03/05/26

State and Local Government

Transcript Highlights:
  • c><00:26:47.680> they<00:26:47.800> cross<00:26:48.160> the<00:26:48.240> border
  • or they they cross the border illegally. or they they cross the border illegally.
  • And uh no shopping to oppose ICE and Customs and Border Patrol operations.
  • <00:34:53.159> Uh Customs and Border Patrol operations.
  • Uh Customs and Border Patrol operations.
Keywords: 1187, senate, all
MN

Minnesota 2025 1st Special Session

Committee on Taxes - 05/08/25

Taxes

Transcript Highlights:
  • Having been a council member and mayor of a border community in a border county, I have seen myself the
  • member and mayor Having been a council member and mayor of<01:11:17.760> a<01:11:17.920> border
  • c><01:11:18.239> community<01:11:18.640> in<01:11:18.880> a<01:11:19.040> border
  • of a border community in a border of a border community in a border county,<01:11:20.560> I
Keywords: 1187, senate, all
NH

New Hampshire 2025 Regular Session

Senate Judiciary (04/10/2025)

Judiciary

Transcript Highlights:
  • So we're right near the Massachusetts border, and I get people in the store all the time that want to
  • So we're right near the Massachusetts border, and I get people in the store all the time that want to
  • So we're right near the Massachusetts border, and I get people in the store all the time that want to
  • So we're right near the Massachusetts border, and I get people in the store all the time that want to
  • Right near the Massachusetts border.
Keywords: 1191, senate, all
MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

House Environment and Natural Resources Finance and Policy Committee 2/11/25

Environment and Natural Resources Finance and Policy

Transcript Highlights:
  • The Midcontinent Rift system that runs through Minnesota from Lake Superior down to the Iowa border has
  • down<00:12:28.320> to<00:12:28.480> the<00:12:28.600> Iowa<00:12:28.880> border
  • <00:12:29.399> has<00:12:29.600> been down to the Iowa border has been down to the
  • <00:13:43.839> is it widens uh there to the Iowa border is it widens uh there to the Iowa
  • border is that<00:13:44.360> potential<00:13:45.279> for<00:13:46.279> um<00:13:
Keywords: 1183, house
NH

New Hampshire 2026 Regular Session

Senate Session (06/04/2026)

New Hampshire Senate Floor Meeting

Transcript Highlights:
  • Um, Senator Rosen Wall would like >> Okay.
  • Um, Senator Rosen Wall would like to<00:12:24.399> introduce<00:12:24.800> another<00:12
  • <01:11:46.719> In<01:11:46.960> its corporations and Wall Street.
  • In its corporations and Wall Street.
  • had been on the other side of the wall had been on the other side of the wall and<05:02:36.798><
Keywords: 1191, senate, all
NH
Transcript Highlights:
  • issue is that there is a lot of law enforcement, especially recently in Pittsburgh, with Northern Border
  • issue is that there is a lot of law enforcement, especially recently in Pittsburgh, with Northern Border
  • issue is that there is a lot of law enforcement, especially recently in Pittsburgh, with Northern Border
  • Especially recently in Pittsburgh, with Northern Border and Stone Garden patrols that are going on up
  • there actively, and their primary goal is to do those Northern Border duties for illegal entries and
Keywords: 1189, house, all
Summary: The meeting was an orientation for the Resources, Recreation and Development Committee, led by Chair Bob Harb. He reviewed committee procedures, including pink cards for witnesses, blue sheets for counts, use of drawers in the committee room, scheduling practices, and how bills would be posted and distributed. Members briefly introduced themselves and explained why they wanted to serve on the committee, with several citing interests in conservation, water quality, outdoor recreation, land use, and related local issues. The committee then opened a hearing on HB 1113, relative to OHRV operation on certain highways within the town of Windsor. Representative Ré Colcombe, the sponsor, explained that the bill would allow local OHV/UTV access across a short section of state road in Windsor so residents on divided portions of town could travel legally between areas. He said the town selectmen were already allowing OHRV use on town roads, the route was paved, traffic impacts were expected to be minimal, and local police had no objections. He also said the town would hold public hearings and notify abutters as required, and that if the select board ultimately opposed the proposal he would recommend killing the bill. Members asked about the legal authority for the change, speed limits, traffic volume, winter maintenance, and whether the Department of Transportation or select board had to approve the route. Colcombe said the town must hold a public hearing and that the change would need to be incorporated into RSA 258:10, section 4. He said the road is maintained by the town in winter and by the state in summer. An opponent, Anne Davis, testified that she opposed the bill, saying ATV use should be treated as a tool for forest management rather than recreation, that law enforcement capacity in Windsor was a concern, and that she believed affected residents should be fully notified before any approval. No vote or final action was taken in the portion provided.
CA

California 2025-2026 Regular Session

Assembly Floor Session May 4th, 2026

California House Floor Meeting

Transcript Highlights:
  • Her latest project, 900 Grados, in partnership with Tony Hawk, celebrates the spirit of border and skate
  • The College of Siskiyou sits on the California-Oregon border and... ...access in Siskiyou County.
  • The College of Siskiyou sits on the California-Oregon border and serves community college students across
  • By expanding access for students in the cross-border community, AB 1555 will address critical workforce
Keywords: 988, house, all
Summary: The Assembly convened, established a quorum, and opened with a prayer, pledge, and several procedural motions. Members approved a motion to re-refer AB 2690 and AB 1863 to Appropriations by roll call vote, 41-17. The body then adopted HR 92, recognizing Cinco de Mayo Week and launching the 2026 Latino Spirit Awards, with broad support from multiple caucuses. The resolution passed on a voice vote after 60 coauthors were added. The chamber then recognized the 2026 Latino Spirit Award honorees, including leaders in higher education, philanthropy, immigrant advocacy, health and science, advocacy, business, environmental justice, human rights, journalism, culinary arts, and music. After the ceremony, members resumed floor business and passed a series of bills, including AB 1657 on domestic violence restraining order procedures (64-0), AB 2042 on civil process and default judgments (66-0), AB 1660 on probate enforcement for public guardians (45-10), AB 1917 on reinstating dismissed criminal charges by motion (43-15), AB 2148 clarifying public school employees are human beings (69-0), AB 1647 protecting juvenile transfer-hearing statements (63-0), AB 1555 expanding community college access in Siskiyou County (66-0), AB 1608 on high-speed rail inspector general transparency and confidentiality rules (45-18), AB 1803 adding anti-hate speech training to workplace harassment prevention training (50-9), and AB 2128 protecting tenants in subsidized housing from certain work requirements and time limits (44-16). Several items were passed and retained or continued without debate. The Assembly also adopted ACR 159, declaring the importance of indigent defense and public defenders, with 59 coauthors added before a voice vote. Later, ACR 179 designated May 1 as Wildland Urban Interface Preparedness and Resilience Day and passed with 65 coauthors, and ACR 183 proclaimed Black Health Equity Advocacy Week, with members speaking about racial health disparities and the need for investment and accountability. Throughout the day, members also introduced guests from their districts and organizations, including public defenders, union leaders, agricultural advocates, students, and civic groups.
MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

Committee on Energy, Utilities, Environment and Climate - 04/13/26

Energy, Utilities, Environment, and Climate

Transcript Highlights:
  • Paul bordering my own district and Maplewood. I drive past it every day going to my parents' house.
  • <00:13:54.400> Paul<00:13:55.320> bordering<00:13:55.960> my<00:13:56.160>
  • Paul bordering my own side of St.
  • Paul bordering my own district<00:13:56.960> and<00:13:57.120> Maplewood.
Keywords: 1187, senate, all
MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

Committee on Rules and Administration - 03/26/26

Rules and Administration

Transcript Highlights:
  • And if it is bordering on a criminal investigation, it would be considered confidential by law enforcement
  • And<00:04:41.880> if<00:04:42.080> it<00:04:42.880> is<00:04:43.120> bordering
  • And if it is bordering on confidential.
  • And if it is bordering on a a a criminal<00:04:45.600> investigation,<00:04:46.640> it<
Keywords: 1187, senate, all
MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

Senate Floor Session - 03/23/26

Minnesota Senate Floor Meeting

Transcript Highlights:
  • For example, the state of Iowa, you just have to get close to the border and you can bet on your mobile
  • <00:20:42.000> close<00:20:42.440> to<00:20:42.600> the<00:20:42.760> border
  • <00:20:43.920> and<00:20:44.080> you have to get close to the border and you have to
  • get close to the border and you can<00:20:44.440> bet<00:20:44.920> on<00:20:45.080>
Keywords: 918, senate, all
Summary: The Senate opened with prayer, a roll call, and confirmation that a quorum was present, then moved to committee reports. The main floor debate centered on a Rules Committee report involving the referral of a sports betting bill. Senator Rasmussen and others argued the bill should go first to the State and Local Government Committee because gambling falls within that committee’s jurisdiction, while Senator Franzen, Senator Klein, and others defended the Rules Committee’s 6-2 decision to send it to Commerce, emphasizing committee discretion and past referral practice. After clarification that the vote was only on adopting the committee report, the Senate rejected the report by a vote of 22-44. The Senate then handled second readings of a slate of Senate and House bills and introduced two new Senate files: SF 4759, eliminating Cesar Chavez Day, referred to State and Local Government, and SF 4760, changing employment/occupation rules related to criminal convictions, referred to Judiciary and Public Safety. In motions and resolutions, several bills were re-referred with little or no opposition: SF 2689 was moved from State and Local Government to Judiciary and Public Safety but failed on a 30-35 vote; SF 4194 was moved from Taxes to Health and Human Services; SF 4274 was moved from Judiciary and Public Safety to Transportation; SF 4332 was moved from Environment, Climate, and Legacy to Agriculture, Veterans, Broadband, and Rural Development; and SF 4592 was moved from Judiciary and Public Safety to Jobs and Economic Development. SF 4455 was also given a second reading and placed on General Orders. The session ended as the Senate moved into special orders.
TX
Transcript Highlights:
  • with the rental car company and law enforcement investigating the stolen vehicle. ...It's also a border
  • willing accomplice who will rent a car, leave the keys in it, and the thieves then head across the border
  • Many of these vehicles are being seen by license plate readers as they cross the border, which become
  • that are crossing, I shouldn't say most, but over half of the vehicles that we know are crossing the border
MN
Transcript Highlights:
  • I border Iowa and Wisconsin, and they do not have an estate tax at all.
  • <00:03:19.560> I constituents where's my district I constituents where's my district I border
  • 21.040> and<00:03:21.760> Wisconsin<00:03:22.760> and<00:03:23.280> they border
  • Iowa and Wisconsin and they border Iowa and Wisconsin and they claiming<00:03:23.799> does<00
Keywords: 1183, house
MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

Committee on Jobs and Economic Development - 02/26/25

Jobs and Economic Development

Transcript Highlights:
  • <00:10:06.200> Street<00:10:06.440> Journal<00:10:07.000> Prime cannot exceed Wall
  • Street Journal Prime cannot exceed Wall Street Journal Prime um<00:10:08.279> and<00:10:08.480
  • Um, it states that it would not exceed the Wall Street Journal prime rate, so let's just estimate that
  • And then you would pay the Wall Street Journal prime rate, is what I call it, for interest, and it's
  • Street Journal prime rate pay the Wall Street Journal prime rate is<00:31:44.240> what<00:31:
Keywords: 1187, senate, all
MN

Minnesota 2025 1st Special Session

Committee on Capital Investment - 02/04/25

Capital Investment

Transcript Highlights:
  • It's an example of just simply being out of space that should be clean with those black walls on each
  • It's an example of just simply being out of space that should be clean with those black walls on each
  • space that should be clean with those space that should be clean with those black<00:21:42.240> walls
  • on each side and our black walls on each side and our evidence<00:21:44.120> storage<00:21:44.880
  • the brick walls and razor wire<00:59:50.920> uh<00:59:51.039> the<00:59:51.160> people
Keywords: 1187, senate, all
Summary: The committee first heard from the Minnesota Department of Administration on the governor’s capital budget requests. Commissioner Tamara Grundal described the state’s deferred maintenance backlog, saying Minnesota owns more than 4,800 buildings across 19 agencies, with an estimated replacement value of $11.2 billion and about $2.2 billion in deferred maintenance. She urged continued bonding support for asset preservation, CAPRA emergency repair funding, Capitol Complex security upgrades recommended by the ACAS advisory committee, and a budget-neutral account to help leverage federal funds for renewable energy storage and electric vehicle projects at state facilities. Members asked follow-up questions about prior security spending and CAPRA use. The commissioner said some 2018 security funds were used for items such as bollards, projectile-resistant glass, key card readers, and security kiosks, but specific details would be provided offline. On CAPRA, staff said recent projects included public safety upgrades, correctional facility repairs, water main and sewer work, roof repairs, lift station repairs, and boiler and steam trap replacements. The commissioner said the account has recently been used heavily, with about $1.9 million remaining, and estimated a typical target range of roughly $3 million to $5 million based on past spending and expected emergencies. A staffer said they did not know whether bonds had been issued ahead of time to fund the reserve and would follow up. The committee then heard from the Department of Public Safety on BCA capital projects. Commissioner Bob Jacobson and Superintendent Drew Evans said the governor’s proposal includes a new Southern BCA regional office and laboratory in Mankato, expansion of BCA regional office and lab space, and a new Minnesota State Patrol headquarters using trunk highway cash. Evans said the Mankato project is needed because of growth in DNA analysis, digital evidence, controlled substances, cyber tips, and sexual assault kit testing, and because the current St. Paul facility is over capacity. He said the new regional facility would improve turnaround times, reduce travel for scientists and law enforcement, support training, and improve evidence intake and crime scene response in southern Minnesota. Senator Pappas questioned the increase in the Mankato project cost from about $48 million to $68.6 million. Evans said the increase was driven by rising construction costs and additional specialized laboratory and support-space needs identified during design work with the Department of Administration. No votes or formal actions were taken during the portion of the meeting provided.
ND

North Dakota 2026 1st Special Session

Agriculture and Water Management Committee Jun 17th, 2026

Agriculture and Water Management Committee

Transcript Highlights:
  • Right across the border. But it's converted into other areas.
  • We know that farming doesn't end at the borders, and so with that, we were really excited to...
  • We know that farming doesn't end at the borders, and so with that, we were really excited to invest that
  • this is a little bit different situation, but up in our area in District 19 right along the Canadian border
  • , we've got Canadians pumping water across the border, flooding out many, many acres, and we've contacted
Summary: The committee met in Fargo and approved the minutes from the March 31 meeting before hearing a series of informational presentations focused on North Dakota agriculture, water, and research. NDSU President David Cook opened with remarks about NDSU’s land-grant mission, emphasizing statewide service through research, teaching, and extension, and highlighting examples such as the Lilac Agriculture startup and the university’s role in applying research to real-world problems. He said he intends to spend time listening across the state to better understand local needs. The committee then received a detailed presentation on a state irrigation and drainage study from Tom Bodine on behalf of Agriculture Commissioner Doug Goehring. The study projected significant potential for expanded irrigation acreage, especially in counties such as McLean, Williams, Sargent, Burleigh, Mountrail, McKenzie, McIntosh, Dunn, and Bottineau, and estimated major economic gains from irrigation, including higher farm returns and support for value-added agriculture. Members discussed water permits, surface water versus aquifers, infrastructure, drought resilience, and the role of legal drains in improving productivity and generating economic activity. The presenters also noted that the full report is available online. Dr. Greg Lardy followed with NDSU’s required interim report, outlining the university’s agricultural research and extension system, including the State Board of Agricultural Research and Education, seven research-extension centers, and the economic importance of agriculture to the state. He highlighted recent research impacts such as new crop varieties, potato breeding successes, virtual fencing, AI-assisted weed control, weather-network tools, and 4-H programming. He also described NDSU’s budget priorities: restoring the governor’s proposed 10% cuts, additional operating support, and deferred maintenance funding. Committee members asked about the new agricultural field lab, storage sheds, and NDSU’s partnership with Grand Farm. The committee also heard from the North Dakota Water Resources Research Institute and a professor presenting water-related research, including data center cooling, water reuse, smart irrigation, and a feasibility study on co-locating data centers with greenhouse and aquaculture production. Members asked about water use, ownership, and whether the concepts were operational or still speculative. Finally, North Dakota AgTech presented its NSF-funded innovation engine work, describing startup commercialization, on-farm trials, workforce development, and partnerships with NDSU, UND, tribal colleges, and other land-grant institutions. No formal votes were taken beyond approval of the prior meeting minutes.
CA
Transcript Highlights:
  • County, which I help represent, has recently acquired thousands of acres of open-space parkland that border
  • newly acquired parklands have roads or trails that connect to existing roads and trails, sharing a border
  • But the precedent that this sets for every fishery is devastating from the Oregon border to Mexico.
  • From the Oregon border to the Tahoe Basin, families, farmers, and ranchers in my district are coming
  • So, with looming deadlines to meet net zero, both within and beyond the state's borders, MCDR holds extraordinary
Summary: The committee heard a long agenda of water, parks, transportation, species protection, and fisheries bills. AB 430 would require the State Water Resources Control Board to publish an economic and environmental impact study when emergency water regulations are extended over multiple years; the author and supporters from agricultural and water groups said it would add transparency without limiting emergency authority. AB 1139 would expand a CEQA exemption to let county park agencies open existing roads and trails for non-motorized recreation, with supporters emphasizing access to nature and opponents warning about impacts to sensitive habitat, tribal resources, and fire risk. AB 929 would temporarily exempt small community water systems and managed wetlands from certain SGMA pumping reductions and fines; supporters said it would protect vulnerable communities and wetlands, while farm and water coalition opponents argued it would undermine basin-wide groundwater management and shift burdens to other users. AB 1225, creating an Accessibility Advisory Committee for State Parks, drew broad support and passed unanimously. The committee also heard AB 514, which would encourage local water suppliers to develop emergency water supplies for drought and service interruptions; it passed with broad support, though one member cautioned against using scientific research as a loophole. AB 550 would let developers seek incidental take permits for species under consideration for listing, aimed at reducing delays for clean energy projects; environmental groups supported the goal but asked for clearer standards, limits on using research as mitigation, and a fee provision, and the bill passed as amended. AB 697 would authorize an incidental take permit for the State Route 37 interim project in Solano and Marin counties, balancing congestion relief and habitat restoration; supporters stressed long commutes and urgent restoration deadlines, while opponents raised climate, sea-level-rise, and tribal concerns. The bill passed, with some members noting they would continue to work on the measure. Other measures discussed included AB 975, which would give Sutter County a narrow, temporary exemption from streambed alteration agreements for certain damaged small bridges and culverts; county officials described repeated flood damage and long permitting delays, and the bill passed as amended. AB 1056 would phase out transferability of set gillnet permits after 2027, allowing only a final family transfer; supporters framed it as a gradual response to bycatch concerns, while fishing industry opponents said it would unfairly target an existing fishery and set a bad precedent. The committee also took up AB 1146, described by the author as a response to politically motivated water releases; supporters from conservation and water organizations backed the bill. Several bills were voted out to Appropriations, some were left open for later action or add-ons, and the committee repeatedly noted it was working through the agenda without a quorum early in the hearing.
NH

New Hampshire 2025 Regular Session

House Ways and Means (04/29/2025)

Transcript Highlights:
  • What I could say is, remember we're on the border of Vermont, and so roughly 40% of the patients that
  • <02:27:09.840> of medical center is on the border of medical center is on the border of Vermont
  • have been hard at work to figure out how to recognize that there are hospitals that serve on the border
  • there are hospitals that serve<02:31:16.560> on<02:31:16.720> the<02:31:16.880> border
  • So there's work being border hospitals.
Keywords: 928, house, all
Summary: The Ways and Means Committee held a public hearing on Senate Bill 291, which would update religious land-use and property tax exemption rules for church-owned parsonages, parish houses, and similar properties. Senator Tim Lang, speaking for the sponsor, said the bill was intended to address situations where former parsonages are no longer occupied by clergy and are instead used for church-related purposes such as housing staff, religious education, or congregate living tied to ministry, including addiction recovery. He emphasized that the bill was not meant to create commercial rental housing and that it also preserves reasonable zoning and environmental regulations. Committee members pressed the sponsor on how the bill would be applied, especially the meaning of “religious purposes,” the six-unit limit, the “same lot” language, and whether churches could use the exemption to rent units for revenue. The sponsor said the six-unit cap was added to prevent large-scale commercial rental use, that congregate housing would be limited and defined, and that the bill was meant to cover uses like substance abuse recovery, homes for unwed mothers, and religious education, but not apartments converted for ordinary rental. He also said churches would still file annual exemption paperwork and towns could challenge claims they believed were commercial. Questions also raised concerns about whether the bill treated religious and nonreligious housing trusts differently; the sponsor responded that the bill was aimed at church-owned property used in pursuit of a religious mission. Several witnesses testified in support. Representative Mark Pearson, an active clergyman, said the bill would not remove additional property from the tax rolls because clergy housing allowances typically lead clergy to buy taxable homes elsewhere, while the church-owned parsonage remains exempt. Nick Taylor of Housing Action New Hampshire supported the bill as a modest expansion that could help create more attainable housing by allowing better use of existing religious land and structures, though he noted his organization would support even broader use. The hearing ended without a vote or final action, and the chair closed questions after the testimony.
MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

Committee on Judiciary and Public Safety - 03/10/25

Judiciary and Public Safety

Transcript Highlights:
  • Four of these five counties are border counties with South Dakota, Iowa, and Canada.
  • 41.000> on neighboring counties and particularly on neighboring counties and particularly on Border
  • > communities<00:01:42.200> with<00:01:42.399> counties<00:01:43.320> uh Border
  • communities with counties uh Border communities with counties uh across<00:01:43.840> the<00:
  • both South Dakota and Iowa so borders both South Dakota and Iowa so operability<00:04:18.639> is<
Keywords: 1187, senate, all
MN

Minnesota 2025-2026 Regular Session

House Taxes Committee 2/12/25

Taxes

Transcript Highlights:
  • see what that looked like, and it did not look very pretty because once we compromised that north wall
  • , that east wall blew up.
  • /c><00:03:59.200> up<00:04:00.159> so<00:04:00.480> that's wall that East wall blew
  • up so that's wall that East wall blew up so that's what<00:04:00.959> it<00:04:01.280> absolutely
  • About 75% of the walls are up, but we are facing cold weather.
Keywords: 1183, house
NH

New Hampshire 2026 Regular Session

House Ways and Means (01/12/2026) (Full Stream)

Ways and Means

Transcript Highlights:
  • Now, um, but then we have to think of bordering states, not just Massachusetts, but Vermont.
  • The Tax Foundation annually does a study of tobacco tax rates and cross-border sales.
  • Whereas somebody might come across the border every week now, maybe they will come fewer times in the
  • <01:06:39.520> but<01:06:39.920> a behavior going across the border but a behavior
  • advantageous to drive across the border. advantageous to drive across the border.
Keywords: 928, house, all
Summary: The committee heard testimony on House Bill 1596, which would raise New Hampshire’s cigarette excise tax from $1.78 per pack to about $2.80, using an inflation-based adjustment since the rate was last set in 2008. Representative Jerry Stringham, the bill’s sponsor, said the measure would keep New Hampshire competitive with neighboring states, generate revenue, and help offset other budget pressures. He also described the bill as repealing an income-based premium charge in Medicaid/CHIP-related programs and restoring cuts to the University System of New Hampshire, arguing that the combined package would still leave the state in a positive fiscal position. He said the tobacco tax increase would likely have some cessation effect but would remain low relative to other New England states, and he cited prior testimony from health groups supporting a larger increase. Members questioned the sponsor about how the new rate was calculated, the prior tobacco tax reduction and restoration, whether tobacco companies would absorb or pass on the tax, and the fiscal note’s estimates for Medicaid premium revenue and UNH funding. Stringham said he used Bureau of Labor Statistics inflation data, that the earlier 10-cent reduction did not produce the expected sales increase, and that the current bill would eliminate the premium charges now in the budget. He later clarified that the Department of Medicaid Services had updated the revenue estimate, but said the bill still showed a surplus overall. He also said the federal government already imposes a $1-per-pack tax and that New Hampshire would remain below neighboring states even after the increase. Two public witnesses testified in opposition to the tax increase. Anna Bettincourt, a tobacco category manager, argued that higher tobacco taxes would unfairly target smokers, reduce New Hampshire’s tax advantage, and likely shift purchases to other states or illicit markets rather than reduce use. She said tobacco companies generally do not lower prices and that Massachusetts’ flavor restrictions had not eliminated sales. In response to questions, she maintained that a smaller increase would still be harmful and that enforcement problems make bans ineffective. The sponsor and some members countered that smokers impose higher health costs and that tobacco taxes are a policy tool for both revenue and public health. No vote or final committee action was taken in the portion of the meeting provided.